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Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;
by Steve Petrie, P.Eng. 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Greetings To GTALUG Members, A setback has occurred in my project to acquire a new Linux PC. On the Windows XP PC that is going to be replaced by the new Linux PC, the DDS-3 DAT SCSI tape drive has died, that does backup duty for the HDD. Died too soon by only a couple of months -- !@#$%^&*(!! Since it could still take a few months for me to complete the acquisition of and conversion to the new Linux PC, I am not going to risk operating the Windows XP PC without regular HDD backup for so long. So, I need to source a replacement tape drive for the Windows XP PC, before I can continue with acquisition of the new Linux PC. A soon as I have a replacement tape drive operating on the Windows XP PC, I will resume the Linux PC acquisition project, and complete the revisions to the specification of components, per advice from GTALUG members. Regards, Steve * * * Steve Petrie, P.Eng. ITS-ETO Consortium Oakville, Ontario, Canada (905) 847-3253 apetrie(a)aspetrie.net

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Debian postgresql security advisory
by Giles Orr 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Debian issued a security advisory for postgresql today: https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3646 . So I want to upgrade my pgsql install on stable. The advisory says "these problems have been fixed in version 9.4.9-0+deb8u1." I upgraded, and found myself with version 9.4+165+deb8u1. And this has me very confused, particularly since the online database ( https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=postgresql… ) shows the jessie version recommended by the advisory. If I run "lsb_release -c" I get "Codename: jessie" in response. The sources.list is basic but complete(?): deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main (I've left out the deb-src statements.) First, why the discrepancy? Second, where do I go to find out what went into the current package? ie. is there a place to look that will say "9.4+165+deb8u1 was compiled for X reason?" I installed a new virtual machine from a fresh download of debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso. A final "apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade" finds me at the same 9.4+165+deb8u1. -- Giles http://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr(a)gmail.com

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Info request
by o1bigtenor 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

Greetings Just looking into how to use a database like Postgresql. On the other side they use front end programs. What is a 'normal' or common approach in the linux world? TIA Dee

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TL-MR3020
by Scott Sullivan 12 Aug '16

12 Aug '16

Just out of the recent thread "TP-Link TL-WR802N 300Mbps Wireless-N Nano Router", wanted to pull together useful links on one of my favorite pieces of travel kit. It's aged very well, still doing what every random job I throw at it 4 years on. The most recent triumph, involved using as it as a PXE boot server, tethered to my phone for internet access to network boot an old Pentium II Dell Optiplex, from https://boot.rackspace.com/ TL-MR3020 ========= Product Page: http://www.tplink.ca/en/products/details/cat-4691_TL-MR3020.html WebUI simulator(*): http://www.tp-link.com/resources/simulator/TL-MR3020/index.htm OpenWRT: https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-mr3020 Vendors(**): http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704127CVF http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3… http://www.ncix.com/detail/tp-link-tl-mr3020-portable-3g-3-75g-wireless-39-… http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=690&item_id=047186 https://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywo… *: TP-Link doesn't put up the interface for all their devices, and sometimes you have to go digging to find them (this one was linked of the Sri Lanka page, but not the Canadian). **: I certainly doubt TP-link is still producing these, but there is still some stock at vendors.

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Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;
by Russell Reiter 11 Aug '16

11 Aug '16

On Jul 25, 2016 10:50 AM, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: > > Warm Greetings To GTALUG, > > Please forgive the long email. -- have to provide some background. > > BACKGROUND -- BUILDING DEBIAN 8 PC TO REPLACE WIN XP PC > I usually have a couple of pieces of advise for home builds and integration. Unfortunately the first piece is no longer relevant. That was was go to active surplus and purchase a variety of items. Board standoffs, plastic washers and odd screws and ties. However they have closed both locations and it doesn't look like there is a comeback in the works. I have yet to find another place with such a comprehensive stock of the little odds and ends someone night need. The other is to have a build buddy, someone to bounce things around with when there is an unexpected problem. I do have this suggestion tho. Make friends with Hacklab. I haven't visited the facility so I don't know if they have storage for a build which may last longer than one day. Also I have no idea of the fee structure to use the space, but there are others on the list with more in-depth knowledge than I. Scott Sullivan perhaps? HTH Russell <snip the end>

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Fedora Flock 2017
by Charles Profitt 11 Aug '16

11 Aug '16

Hello all: I have been around Linux for a while, but a recent convert to Fedora. I read alot about Flock [1] and understand that it will be returning to North America. As a long time Ubuntu Contributor who attended UDS several times I am excited about the prospect of an in-person event. My city hosted Flock in 2015 so it is that it would be unlikely for the same city to be chosen again. When I was discussing Flock 2017 with some Fedora friends I thought of GTALUG as a potential host group to help organize Flock. Obviously I can't really help organize from Rochester NY, but I wanted to pass along the information to you folks to see if you have any interest. If there is interest I can assist with navigating the bid process [2]. I have included the bid for Krakow (2016) [3] and Rochester (2015) [4]. Charles [1] - https://flocktofedora.org/ [2] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_bid_process [3] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2016-Krakow-proposal [4] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock2015-Rochester-proposal

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[GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tonight at 7:30pm
by hi＠gtalug.org 09 Aug '16

09 Aug '16

<http://gtalug.org/meeting/2016-08/> # On Disruption & Killer Apps with Scott Elcomb There'll be a short half-hour presentation on the history of Atomic OS and related improvements in web technology since the last release. The presentation will then be followed by an interactive session to discuss philosophical questions surrounding disruption, the meaning of "success" in the context of FOSS projects and whether "killer applications" for such projects are important. ## Location George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre 245 Church Street, Room 203 Ryerson University <http://goo.gl/maps/16oJ2> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23447525> ## Schedule * 6:00 pm - Please discuss on the general mailing list (i.e. <talk(a)gtalug.org>) where you want to go for dinner. * 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation. * 9:00 pm - After each meeting a group of GTALUGers move to the The Imperial Pub (54 Dundas St East) for refreshments and more socializing. # Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardize the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honored by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation, or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact the GTALUG Board @ <board(a)gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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dinner tomorrow night
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 09 Aug '16

09 Aug '16

<https://wiki.gtalug.org/pre-meeting_dinner> We're playing chicken, and I always lose. I guess I care more about dinner than the rest of you :-) I suggest: Roti Roll Caribean Cuisine Address: 361 Yonge St. (A little hard to recognize from the street but it is there) Yelp Review: <https://www.yelp.ca/biz/roti-roll-caribbean-cuisine-toronto> visited 2015 November 10 Fallback: Donair Kebab House (Turkish) Address: 391 Yonge Street Stewart remembers: tasty shawarma, but limited seating and cash only visited 2015 October 13

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Ubuntu 16.04 / gcc 5.4.0 - errors generated inside system include files
by Stewart C. Russell 08 Aug '16

08 Aug '16

I'm hitting unexpected problems building some old-ish code (UCB Logo 6, after hearing Seymour Papert went PENUP last week). gcc seems to be choking on its own header file, mathcalls.h: gcc -g -O -O0 -DUSE_OLD_TTY -c -o coms.o coms.c In file included from coms.c:30:0: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/mathcalls.h:100:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘extern’ __MATHCALL_VEC (exp,, (_Mdouble_ __x)); ^ /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/mathcalls.h:100:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘extern’ __MATHCALL_VEC (exp,, (_Mdouble_ __x)); ^ /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/mathcalls.h:100:1: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘extern’ __MATHCALL_VEC (exp,, (_Mdouble_ __x)); ^ <builtin>: recipe for target 'coms.o' failed make: *** [coms.o] Error 1 (this on Ubuntu 16.04, gcc 5.4.0, x86_64) I can build other code that includes math.h, the source of the mathcalls.h inclusion. The package builds fine on a Raspberry Pi (Raspbian, gcc 4.9.2, armv7l). The package even built on x86_64 under Ubuntu 15.10. Is this just Canonical mucking about with the compiler settings again? cheers, Stewart

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cheap Raspberry Pi, today only
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

Newegg.ca has two or three "Shell Shocker(TM)" deals each day. Sometimes they are pretty good. Today, one is a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B for $42.90 + shipping and tax. Ground shipping is $7.99 but you can probably use "InPost" shipping which should be free. InPost will ship it to a locker of your choosing. For me, the locker is very convenient (in a Loblaws site a short walk from home). Canada Robotix (a store in Markham) sells the RPi3 for $53.99. Creatron on College sells it for $53.50.

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