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[OFF TOPIC] Brave new Browser
by Slack Rat 05 Sep '17

05 Sep '17

Does anyone have any comments on Brendan Eich's new "Brave" browser? Now in a sort of wide beta, I'm personally impressed and am using it as my main browser. At least it's blindingly fast and sound works out of the box and many of the early version quirks have been obviated. -- Bill Henderson <billh(a)sdf.org> http://inconnu.freeshell.org/Sig/slackware.jpg

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Re: [GTALUG] From BTRFS to what?
by Stewart C. Russell 04 Sep '17

04 Sep '17

On 2017-09-04 08:30 AM, ac via talk wrote: > > hehehe, yeah... the quoted example was so not a rant.. Hmm, maybe it's a sign that communications around Linux kernel development are utterly broken if the long screed I linked to doesn't even merit “rant” status. Had Reiser really wished to have his code accepted, he would have knuckled down and worked on its deficiencies, rather than posting that "silenced all my lyfe!!!1!" yawp. Stewart

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Request for a talk (or a doc)
by Evan Leibovitch 03 Sep '17

03 Sep '17

Hello all, This is the opposite of an offer to present something. Rather, I am hoping there is enough interest such that one of GTALUG' s more learned souls might be able to present. Specifically, keyboards. I have never quite mastered how to get random Unicode characters from a keyboard on a Linux desktop. I've allways been able to switch keyboards, and I can do French (and some other) accents using dead keys. But I've never been able to duplicate the Windows trick of (for instance) ALT-0128 to get the Euro symbol. Most keyboards these days, in addition to Control keys, have a pair each Windows and Alt keys. On my KDE desktop the Windows key brings up the applications menu - fine. But if I look at /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose I see references to a <Multi_key> that would allow me to combine keystrokes to make ligatures (such as combining "R" and "=" to make the Rupee symbol. I don' t see a key marked "multi key" and I haven't found the ability to do these combined characters. In the KDE keyboard settings there is mention of mapping a <Meta> key to one of the low-row keyboard keys ... but isn't that an EMACS thing? And what is a <Hyper> key? If the answer is RTFM, I happily withdraw the request so long as someone can suggest an FM to R. My efforts to find decent docs on any of this have not gone well. So either a pointer to a good tutorial-level explanation of all this, or a brief mini-presentation at the next GTALUG meeting by someone who knows this stuff, would be highly appreciated. Thanks! -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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Fedora 26 Wonky Screen
by Howard Gibson 02 Sep '17

02 Sep '17

I have just installed Fedora 26 on my desktop. I logged into Gnome_3. I opened a couple of terminals and logged in as root to set my system up. I launched Firefox. All of my screen colours went completely wonky. I was doing a system update (dnf update) when all this happened. I am installing FVWM but it did not launch. Classic Gnome seems to be working okay but I am being cautious. Has anyone else experienced this? -- Howard Gibson hgibson(a)eol.ca jhowardgibson(a)gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson

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[GTALUG-Announce] Meeting on 12 September at 7:30pm
by hi＠gtalug.org 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

<http://gtalug.org/meeting/2017-09/> # xterm and Docker *xterms: State of Art 2017* with Christopher Browne Many of us "live" in xterms, and there have been some developments. This talk pokes a bit at: - The old, and what's still being developed - The new, and there ARE some interesting developments - A bit of the crazy! Want an xterm that simulates shakey old amber monitors? You got it! *Docker* with Greg Martyn TDA ## Location George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre 245 Church Street, Room 203 Ryerson University <http://goo.gl/maps/16oJ2> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23447525> ## Schedule * 6:00 pm - Please discuss on the general mailing list (i.e. <talk(a)gtalug.org>) where you want to go for dinner. * 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation. * 9:00 pm - After each meeting, a group of GTALUGers move to The Imperial Pub (54 Dundas St East) for refreshments and more socialising. # Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardise the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honoured by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact the GTALUG Board @ <board(a)gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [GTALUG] colour management
by Russell Reiter 27 Aug '17

27 Aug '17

On August 26, 2017 11:45:17 AM EDT, "Stewart C. Russell via talk" < talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: >(subject changed from "Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry PI wifi problem") > >On 2017-08-25 03:49 PM, Russell via talk wrote: >> >> My biggest nice to have feature would be a comprehensive source of >ICC lookup tables for linux. > >If you're meaning for scanners, generic manufacturer ones are kind of >useless. Light sources age and shift, and so your generic calibration >becomes less and less useful. If you have to have one of these files, >dig about in the Windows or Mac driver package, as there's usually one >there. I just recently acquired Windows 10 with an hp mini I bought online. First personally purchased MS Windows OS ever. I jumped from DOS 6.2 to Linux for myself, leaving Windows to the business end of things. I learned M$ Windows stuff on other peoples dime. I'm kind of frugal that way. > >With an ICC target — Wolf Faust sells cheap but good ones from >http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ — it's easy to calibrate a scanner. >I've >always meant to > >a.) do a lightning talk on colour management; I'd find that interesting. I've never colour calibrated a scanner, never needed that kind of fine grained reproduction. > >b.) arrange a group buy of scanner targets. Wolf sells them *very* >cheap >if you're shipping more than one. > >I have a spare (stored in the dark, unused, technically expired but >good >enough) ITU target if anyone wants one. Wolf makes targets for the big >repro companies, so his stuff is good. He's also been writing printer >drivers since the early 1990s. > >You might also be surprised at what's living in /usr/share/color/icc >already … > >> I wouldn't have to stop cups to be able to scan with my MFU. > >Is your AIO networked, or connected via USB? cups tends to hog the USB, the problem for me, outside of the flimsy feed table which throws off alerts about itself, is that I have to manually trigger a udev event to be able to access the scanner. If I reboot and have forgotten to stop cups service and then try to scan with xsane, it cleans the print head and then the low colour tank indicator on the unit flashes, even though the tank is full. Simple Scan does nothing. If I just stop cups, and turn off and on the power, simple scan works poorly but, xsane can't find the device at all. I have to power it off by unplugging and then switch on again before xsane recognizes something. However the scan quality is very much higher. I think I have a couple of concurrent issues. One, there is something mysteriously funky about connecting USB 2.0 B male downstream to 3.0 female. Not necessarily in the hardware, Linux afaik doesn't report ink volume, MS will, so it looks like its more of a presentation layer issue. Ink volume is a kind of colour property report. I think that xsane start-scan command to the unit is being misinterpereted as clean head and report ink volume when cups service is running. The other thing is the modeswitching from printer to scanner, which I have kluged. At this point I could create a couple of system targets to stop cups before xsane starts and start cups if lpq is populated but, since this is a photo printer not in daily use, I keep the print daemon inactive. I scan much more than I print. There is a known issue with the infeed on Cannon Pixma. The fix is to remove the flimsy plate and flex it by hand to reshape it so the feed works consistantly. Rather than do that, I'll eventually replace it. This one was a Christmas gift to print photos from the holidays. The paperstops of the scan table are very precise and squared to the scan bed for one button photocopying of pictures on the bed, so no futzing with baseline registration when printing a scanned image. >whole >device over USB. xsane finds my networked Epson, but annoyingly all >drivers (perhaps the hardware itself) can only scan at 8 bpp. Well I would like a few more than 256 colours but in fact for my own day to day use that would probably be fine. I'm not a real shutterbug and I dont create a lot of personal/busines paper fallout at home. > > Stewart >--- >Talk Mailing List >talk(a)gtalug.org >https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

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Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry PI wifi problem
by John Moniz 26 Aug '17

26 Aug '17

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Raspberry PI wifi problem
by Evan Leibovitch 25 Aug '17

25 Aug '17

Hi all. Making networking run on Linux desktops has always been IMO one of the reasons why it's not caught on. Stuff just shouldn't be this hard. I have a RPi Model B running current Raspian, and a wifi dongle that claims to run on it. `lsusb` reports it as Bus 001 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter and `usb-devices` says: T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 4 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.01 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=148f ProdID=7601 Rev=00.00 S: Manufacturer=MediaTek S: Product=802.11 n WLAN S: SerialNumber=1.0 C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=160mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 8 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) Now... even though it says "Driver=(none)" on that last line, `lsmod` reports: Module Size Used by [...] mt7601u 86636 0 mac80211 650707 1 mt7601u cfg80211 525998 2 mac80211,mt7601u [...] snd_hwdep 6479 1 snd_usb_audio videodev 177702 3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2 snd_usbmidi_lib 22479 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi 23727 1 snd_usbmidi_lib media 28994 2 uvcvideo,videodev rfkill 21373 2 cfg80211 snd_seq_device 5266 1 snd_rawmidi snd_bcm2835 23131 0 snd_pcm 97825 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_bcm2835 snd_timer 22706 1 snd_pcm snd 68784 8 snd_hwdep,snd_usb_audio,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm bcm2835_gpiomem 3791 0 uio_pdrv_genirq 3718 0 uio 10166 1 uio_pdrv_genirq fixed 3029 0 ip_tables 12512 0 x_tables 20921 1 ip_tables ipv6 384391 18 So there is a module called mt7201u being loaded yet it's not seen as the associated driver to this card in usb-devices and it's definitely not showing in ifconfig or iwconfig. Any suggestions on what I'm missing is greatly appreciated. -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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Raspberry PI hdmi problem
by David Mason 25 Aug '17

25 Aug '17

Evan's post reminded me of a problem I have left on the back-burner for a year. I also have a RPI Model B that I bought as a media centre, but for that to work, it needs to go through my Pioneer receiver to my projector (because I have other sources and I need to switch among them). Unfortunately, that doesn't work, although it works if directly plugged in to the projector. I tried at the time to email someone at Raspberry, but never got a reply. When I saw Evan's post, it reminded me that I'd really like to get it working, and that somebody here might know something. Thanks ../Dave

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Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead
by Stewart Russell 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

On 17 August 2017 at 12:54, David Collier-Brown <davec-b(a)rogers.com> wrote: > If they don't voluntarily agree to stop emailing me, I drop them into > spamcop form below: > > ^u^a^c... ^p and they get their corporate email provider flagged as a > spammer. > > This usually gets them told there will be a fine from the provider every > time they get blacklisted and have to appeal to be unlisted. That > motivates them wonderfully (;-)) > Please think twice before doing this. Spamcop, Spamhaus and the rest are little better than extortionists. If you have the unlucky coincidence to be on shared mail hosting with a blacklisted site, *your* mail can be blacklisted too. Tortuous interference can get very ugly (read $$$) in the courts. I had this happen at a former employer. We lost sales and communications for two days. The owner got in a foul mood, and I'm sure the last words of any well-intentioned but naive sysadmin that got within stabbing distance would have been: "We need our own mailserv...aaaargh!" cheers, Stewart

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