December 2022 - Talk - lists.gtalug.org

[GTALUG-Announce] Membership Dues
by Warren McPherson 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

With the agm coming up, now is a great time to renew membership and make a small twenty dollar contribution to the organization. For those looking forward to the chance to wind their way through the Interac E-Transfer process again here is my summary of how it works. (Actually I forget each time so the novelty never wears off -- luckily it is easy.) Log in to your bank and look for "Interac e-Transfers" you may need to go to the "Transfers" page and then you will see this option. Select "email method" and use the email address: membership(a)gtalug.org Putting your name in the message can be helpful as the notification I get can sometimes be a touch obtuse. Thank you to those who have already contributed! (I know who you are. Ha ha) Thank you, Warren --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Is there a digest format for the GTALUG talk mailing list?
by sciguy 08 Jan '23

08 Jan '23

I went through the mailing list configuration page and while I found a ton of things that can be tweaked, there appeared to be nothing on getting a daily digest format of this mailing list. Is there such a thing for GTALUG? Paul King

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Solved(?): No internet under Ubuntu 22.04 after booting into Windows 10
by sciguy 20 Dec '22

20 Dec '22

Well, rather than just simply power cycling the computer as I had done, I instead shut down the comptuer from Windows, then pulled the plug for 20-30 seconds. Then I re-inserted the plug and powered up. I am now writing this email from Linux. A power-down doesn't really cut the juice to the motherboard. Some lights inside the box will remain on, and I recall that the NIC is resident on the motherboard. -------- Original Message -------- As stated, I have a desktop PC that is dual-boot, and where the network operates under Windows 10 but not Linux. I have been referred to this mailing list from Ubuntu Studio, since this appears to be a more general kind of problem. I followed some suggestions given by previous responders in other lists, regarding net commands to help diagnose the system. It was of some interest that I found that my router is assigning a different IP to the Windows 10 hostname than for the Linux hostname. However, the listing below doesn't really show any IP. The commands run were: ip addr show ip link show dhclient -r eno1 sudo dhclient -v eno1 The typescript is below: Script started on 2022-12-17 17:03:12-05:00 $ ip addr show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether d8:50:e6:4d:0c:da brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 inet6 fe80::e8e4:6dba:23d6:c035/64 scope link noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever $ ip link show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether d8:50:e6:4d:0c:da brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff altname enp0s25 $ dhclient -r eno1 $ sudo dhclient -v eno1 [sudo] password for paul: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.1 Copyright 2004-2018 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eno1/d8:50:e6:4d:0c:da Sending on LPF/eno1/d8:50:e6:4d:0c:da Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 (xid=0x3a1ec029) DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 (xid=0x3a1ec029) DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 (xid=0x3a1ec029) DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 (xid=0x3a1ec029) DHCPDISCOVER on eno1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 (xid=0x3a1ec029) ^C $ exit Script done on 2022-12-17 17:04:57-05:00 [COMMAND_EXIT_CODE="130"] Thanks to anyone who can help or provide useful insight. Paul King

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Weird pivot from the Linux Foundation: Overture Maps Foundation
by Stewart Russell 19 Dec '22

19 Dec '22

I was surprised and disappointed to read this today: The Linux Foundation, a global nonprofit organization enabling innovation through open source, today announced the formation of the Overture Maps Foundation <https://overturemaps.org/>, a new collaborative effort to develop interoperable open map data as a shared asset that can strengthen mapping services worldwide. The initiative was founded by Amazon Web Services (AWS), Meta, Microsoft, and TomTom and is open to all communities with a common interest in building open map data. — https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-announces-overture-m… The thing is, we already have a mature global map database with interoperable data and services: OpenStreetMap — https://www.openstreetmap.org/ . OSM is managed by the democratic OpenStreetMap Foundation. The partners in Overture are not particularly well known for their open-source friendliness. Membership in the Overture foundation is also very costly: $3000 US/year to contribute, $3M US/year to be on the steering committee. I know that the Linux Foundation is hyper-corporate, but to try to compete with OSM is mystifying. Stewart

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Cannot get a network in Linux (Ubuntu) after using Windows 10
by sciguy 19 Dec '22

19 Dec '22

When I say I can't get a network, I mean that my Linux OS can't see any external hardware, including the router. And of course, I can't get the Internet. When in W10 (as I am now), I checked the router "config pages" and I noticed that it has two different IP addresses - one to the W10 hostname and one the Linux hostname, on the same machine. Any ideas?

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At the GTALUG AGM: How we handle Internet services
by Evan Leibovitch 14 Dec '22

14 Dec '22

[Apologies if you received this message more than once] Hello everyone, By now you may have read or heard elsewhere about the announcement of the Annual General Meeting (AGM) for the Greater Toronto Linux User Group (GTALUG), to be held virtually <https://blue.lpi.org/b/eva-zjc-gjy-kgl> on Tuesday December 13. Along with other AGM business, we will be discussing how GTALUG goes forward with our online services. TL;DR: A number of the people who used to set up and run our online services (mainly the website and mailing lists) have left the GTALUG Board, and those who remain have neither the time to fix nor familiarity with the tools currently running these services. As Google has provided to GTALUG its nonprofit services which include full access to commercial Google Workplace (formerly G Suite), the Board has been investigating migrating some of our online services there. While to some such a move would be controversial, the status quo is unsustainable. So either we need new people to step forward to operate what exists, or we need to move to a service -- provided free of charge -- that can dramatically simplify operations. The Board wants to have an open discussion on the issue before deciding, and the issue will be raised at the AGM. We look forward to hearing your views. While responses to this email will certainly be read, the full discussion will take place at the AGM. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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speaker ideas for upcoming meetings
by Erica Peterson 13 Dec '22

13 Dec '22

As Evan requested during the meeting, here are two suggestions: https://mstdn.ca/@chad -- this person from Edmonton runs the mstdn.ca Canadian Mastodon instance. Probably has some interesting things to say regarding open protocols, distributed social media, and the twitter migration. Daniel Micay, lead developer of GrapheneOS (security hardened Android), local to Toronto. Cheers, Erica

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RAID SATA controller card recommendation?
by Aurelian Melinte 13 Dec '22

13 Dec '22

Hello, I am looking to get a RAID card to put my SATA HDDs in a mirror. Has to be hardware RAID for that particular machine which is quite old. Can anyone please recommend a reliable one, $250 or less? Thanks! -- -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

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How to keep using an old CIFS device
by Stewart Russell 12 Dec '22

12 Dec '22

Ever since NTLM support was removed from the kernel <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?…> last year, I've been unable to access my network scanner. It's quite old (~ 2012), but it has a huge scan area and I have a colour-calibrated workflow for it, and there's no way I could afford a suitable replacement. Curiously, for something so old, it supports AirScan, so I could resort to that, only the colour calibration is off and it needs my computer's full attention to pull scans over the network as they happen. I know no-one here has a crystal ball about where projects are going, but I'm getting a little worried that the only other way to access the scanner is via smbclient and the following options in my smb.conf: client min protocol = CORE client use spnego = no ntlm auth = ntlmv1-permitted Every time I access the share, I get the dire warning that 'The "client use spnego" option is deprecated'. The documentation has even more dire warnings about these features being removed entirely. Are there other ways to access a CIFS share? I thought there might be a fuse driver, but I can't find one. I really don't want to have to trash perfectly good hardware that's never shared outside my local LAN. thanks, Stewart

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Re: [GTALUG] At the GTALUG AGM: How we handle Internet services
by Stewart C. Russell 02 Dec '22

02 Dec '22

On 01/12/2022 02.30, ac via talk wrote: > > When "directors" or "boards" or "leaders" make decisions on policy it > affects operations. Always. and many times it is "politics" and ... Note that in our case, GTALUG directors are very close to the users. Generally, the services we have are the ones the users were interested in. I've been on the board twice, I've seen all the little cogwheels turning ... > ... then you need more automation/scripts - seriously, it cannot take that > much of your time Part of the problem is that a whole bunch of GTALUG services are held together by legacy scripts. Which the maintainer has moved on from. Which the new operator may not understand, or even know they are there. We may have lost the documentation (though it's probably in the GTALUG github, somewhere - most likely last edited by Chris). So more automations will solve some problems and create new ones too. You also can't automate moderation in any useful way There are no 'clock' problems: everything here is a 'cloud' (to appropriate Karl Popper's concept of defined, soluble problems vs indeterminate, insoluble ones). The board is burned out. It's good that folks are stepping up, but it might not be enough. Thanks, Evan, for your thoughtful answers. Whatever system we end up using must have public, web-accessible archives, as anything locked behind a user login is not a useful resource. Stewart

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