July 2017 - Talk - lists.gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Interest in an IM for TLUG?
by Mauro Souza 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

What about IRC? It's a "no setup needed" solution, everyone can install a client, and there's lots of servers to choose from... On Jul 13, 2017 17:57, "Myles Braithwaite 👾 via talk" <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: +1 for having an IM based communication area for GTALUG. There are so many times I get IMs/Texts from people asking where we are meeting for dinner that alone would be a great help. 0 for Telegram. I'm not a fan of the "security" aspect of it and would rather if GTALUG used a more open system like Riot.im. But I would go to where the people are going. On July 13, 2017 at 4:48:24 PM, Evan Leibovitch via talk (talk(a)gtalug.org) wrote: > Hi all. > > A couple of casual; conversations took place before and after Tuesday's > meeting regarding the "where to eat" issue. I suggested that maybe some > situations such as this could benefit from a real-time chat system. > > Scott mentioned the PITA factor of TLUG itself creating and monitoring an > instant messaging group, so I am volunteering to set this up IFF demand > exists. > > That does not mean everyone has to love it, and email will continue to be > the "official" place for meeting notices and official business. But I > thought this might be better for those of us who are getting tired of email > threads, and the newer generation that by and large detests email. > > The preferred (and arbitrarily chosen) tool is "Telegram". It's support > for Linux is excellent, it has a (unofficial) Pidgin plugin available, and > a user base already in the hundreds of millions. I know that many have > Skype but I'm trying to wind its use down; the latest update, with all the > sine-wave animations, is dreadful. > > So... please speak up if you think this would be a good thing. If you > won't use it, that's OK too. All I'm looking for is reasonable expectation > of use. > > -- > Evan Leibovitch > Toronto, Canada > > Em: evan at telly dot org > Sk: evanleibovitch > Tw: el56 > > --- > > Talk Mailing List > talk(a)gtalug.org > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Talk Mailing List talk(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

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Re: [GTALUG] "'Opens source' is not 'free software'"
by lsorense＠csclub.uwaterloo.ca 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 04:02:27PM +0200, ac via talk wrote: > I know what you are trying to say, but... > > end users of gpl or bsd code have exactly the same freedom. A developer can be an end user too. > developers using bsd code and dev using gpl code have different freedoms. > > and as you said, and I said in my original reply, depends on the > goal(s) - as they are different -- Len Sorensen

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Re: [GTALUG] "'Opens source' is not 'free software'"
by Alvin Starr 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

On 07/13/2017 10:02 AM, ac via talk wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:37:12 -0400 > lsorense(a)csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: >> they want. So yes the GPL gives each user less freedom in the >> interest of giving all users that same level of freedom in using the >> code. >> >> Different goal. >> > I know what you are trying to say, but... > > end users of gpl or bsd code have exactly the same freedom. > > developers using bsd code and dev using gpl code have different freedoms. > > and as you said, and I said in my original reply, depends on the > goal(s) - as they are different > > Andre I believe the difference is that BSD allows an end user to take the code and make the code part of a closed product where enchantments and changes to the code are not shared. So the next person in the chain cannot have the advantage of access to the source. I believe that the Microsoft network stack is an example of this, where MS took the BSD network stack and incorporated it into Windows but none of the BSD code or changes were visible to purchasers or normal developers of Windows. Its about propagation of freedom. -- Alvin Starr || land: (905)513-7688 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin(a)netvel.net ||

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[GTALUG-Announce] Meeting on 8 August at 7:30pm
by hi＠gtalug.org 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

<http://gtalug.org/meeting/2017-08/> # The Tor Software Ecosystem with Sukhblr Signh When people talk about Tor, they almost always think of the Tor daemon or Tor Browser. While this was true earlier, the Tor ecosystem has now expanded and includes a diverse set of applications that serve a variety of different users helping them to protect their privacy online or to circumvent Internet censorship. In this talk, we will start by introducing Tor and then briefly walk through the applications that are built around it. PS: This talk for beginners as well as advanced users already using Tor. ## Location George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre 245 Church Street, Room 203 Ryerson University <http://goo.gl/maps/16oJ2> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23447525> ## Schedule * 6:00 pm - Please discuss on the general mailing list (i.e. <talk(a)gtalug.org>) where you want to go for dinner. * 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation. * 9:00 pm - After each meeting, a group of GTALUGers move to The Imperial Pub (54 Dundas St East) for refreshments and more socialising. # Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardise the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honoured by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact the GTALUG Board @ <board(a)gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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"'Opens source' is not 'free software'"
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

I found this article interesting and useful <https://opensource.com/business/16/11/open-source-not-free-software> This guy disagrees: <https://meshedinsights.com/2017/06/07/free-vs-open/>

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Following on Stewart's talk... Epson receipt printer
by William Park 12 Jul '17

12 Jul '17

During Stewart's talk last night, someone mentioned that Epson receipt printer had too small buffer and had to time print jobs to avoid losing data. There are 2 ways to get printer BUSY status: 1. You can query the printer for "online/offline" status by sending DLE EOT 1 (0x10 0x04 0x01) and it will return 1 byte. If bit 3 (0x08) is - 1 -- it is "offline" - 0 -- it is "online" 2. You can turn on ASB (automatic status back), where printer will send 4 bytes status back to you whenever status changes, such as pressing FEED button, buffer full, paper out, etc. To turn on "online/offline" status reporting, send GS a 2 (0x1d 0x61 0x02). To turn off "online/offline" status reporting, send GS a 0 (0x1d 0x61 0x00). From the 4 bytes returned, if bit 3 (0x08) of first byte is - 1 -- it is "offline" - 0 -- it is "online" -- William

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The blog entry for my lightening talk of yesterday is at ...
by David Collier-Brown 12 Jul '17

12 Jul '17

https://leaflessca.wordpress.com/2017/07/01/a-few-days-into-bdd/ -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb(a)spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain

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Dinner Tonight
by Dhaval Giani 11 Jul '17

11 Jul '17

Hi Folks, Thoughts for dinner? I am thinking thai. I see Thai on Yonge Basil Box Suggestions? Thanks! Dhaval

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Re: [GTALUG] GTALUG] Ancient hardware available
by Stewart Russell 11 Jul '17

11 Jul '17

All gone, seemingly.

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Ancient hardware available
by Isaac Connor 11 Jul '17

11 Jul '17

Am helping clean out some old stuff for my In-laws, as well as doing the same for myself. I know there are people on here who like/cherish these things. Various junk includes: green monochrome monitors 8inch floppy drves 5.25inch floppy drives / floppies 2-3 Sinclair ZX Spectrums random old weird circuit boards/add on cards, etc. piles of shareware cds, various old software, etc. couple of p4 xeon 2U servers various laptops/laptop parts (amd turion/p4 maybe some early core2duo,g4) p4 tablets/slates (pre-ipad) Most stuff will be on the lawn at 60 Wolfrey Ave (near broadview and danforth) until Thursday morning

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