July 2017 - Talk - lists.gtalug.org

Linux In The Park logistics
by Christopher Browne 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

When we looked at the BBQ, it seemed like we might need to see about having a fresh tank. I could pick one up at Costco tomorrow morning if need be, but if someone else already has one, that would be best. Scott? Bill? Hopefully one of you knows more of what needs to be up... -- When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"

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router upgrade
by o1bigtenor 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

Greetings I've been running an Asus rt-n16 router, using dd-wrt, for about 6.5 years now. On the second one for about 1.5 years and no longer have a spare for the next time the router craters. Am finding it very difficult to determine an update/upgrade for my router. Any suggestions? (Trying to keep the costs down too, please.) Regards Dee

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hoping for help
by annpohl＠xplornet.ca 20 Jul '17

20 Jul '17

Hi. Anyone want to do their bit for the environment by helping me get set up? I am not wanting to be an OS computer whiz. I have a full plate already doing environmental protection'defense work-activism, and being a grandmother etc.. ...I am currently shopping for a new not-fancy computer and need some recommendations on which would be best for installing Linux-Ubuntu in a dual boot, and I also need an affordable technician to help me do that when I get the computer. Usually I am in eastern NB but am in the GTA for the summer. I have technical support down there, but not up here. My kids are buying me a new computer and I need some guidance. I use the Linux - Ubuntu side mostly for my work because it deals with a lot of security issues. Thanks for considering this request. Ann Pohl [1] Hi Ann, It would be best if you joined our talk mailing list and ask your question there. https://gtalug.org/mailing-list/ [2] Links: ------ [1] https://www.facebook.com/gtalug/ [2] https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fgtalug.org%2Fmailing-list%2F&a…

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Problems viewing embedded gifs on Chromium on A fedora26 computer
by Clive DaSilva 20 Jul '17

20 Jul '17

Hello all A week ago I updated form Fedora 25 to Fedora 26. On 25, I had no problems viewing embedded gifs but on 26 I keep running into the "media cannot be displayed message". The 26 update updated to the 26 repositories and I have had two updates to the gstreamer plugins (good and ugly), still having this problem. Any ideas folks as I spent the week googling this issue and all the posts are outdated? Thanks --------- Clive DaSilva - cdasilva(a)iprimus.ca Mailing List - <mailto:talk@gtalug.org> talk(a)gtalug.org <http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk> http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

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Re: [GTALUG] hoping for help
by Russell 18 Jul '17

18 Jul '17

On July 17, 2017 1:42:55 AM EDT, ac via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:13:53 -0400 (EDT) >"D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: >> | From: Russell via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> >> | Were an IRC channel set up >> Got a number of years, we've had #gtalog on freenode.net. (We used >to Now that you mention it, I seem to recall that the footer added by the tlug listserver use to mention IRC. >> use #tlug but there were other users.) Tokyo Linux Users Group perhaps? >> Hardly anyone uses it. Six at the moment, including me (just for >> testing) and Myles twice. > IRC is a great way to quickly ad-hoc ideas in a group meeting context. Its also a great tool for B2B product support. I've helped a lot of beginners deal with product support this way. However these days cell phone tech has hidden IRC to the point of ubiquity. >ever since I beat my long addiction to IRC in 1989, I can say with >honesty: > >Hi, my name is Andre and I am an Hi Andre. IRC addict, I have been clean now for >almost 28 years... RSI keeps me low key these days. > >bloody Fin's. if it isn't irc it is this linux virus, * wondering >whats next... :) Keep coming back because it works. :-) > >Andre > >--- >Talk Mailing List >talk(a)gtalug.org >https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Russell Sent by K-9 Mail

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[GTALUG-Announce] Linux in the Park 2017 - Saturday (22 July) at 2pm
by Myles Braithwaite 👾 16 Jul '17

16 Jul '17

<http://gtalug.org/picnics/2017/> GTALUG is having the annual Linux in the Park Potluck this year at HackLab.TO's Backyard on 22 July at 2pm. Things we will provide: Bathroom, BBQ, Plates, Cutlery, Serviettes, Cups, and Garbage bags. Things you might want to bring: chairs, tasty beverages, food stuffs that you would like to share and enjoy, tarp/blanket, sunscreen, hats, things to help survive the warmth of the Canadian Wilderness. We will doing this in a pot-luck style. Thus, please bring enough food and drink for yourself and your guests, and try to bring enough to share with others in the group. We are using the GTALUG wiki to organize everything: <https://wiki.gtalug.org/event:linux_in_the_park_2017>. ## Location HackLab.TO - Backyard 1266 Queen St. West, Suite #6, Toronto Toronto, Ontario <http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3522641496> ## Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardize the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honored by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation, or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact one of the GTALUG Board Members @ <board(a)gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: [GTALUG] *** SPAM*** hoping for help
by annpohl＠xplornet.ca 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Hi Andre -- you know far more than I do. Yes, most likely just Linux - Ubuntu would be fine, I have a double boot on this old faithful laptop I am writing on right now, but I feel you are correct I do not need a double boot on the new laptop I intend to buy because Linux has become much more mainstreamable. I do not game on my computer ever so my specs are not high that way. I do travel, hence laptop only. I also am older so I like to have a big screen. I am looking with some interest at this computer: Lenovo Ideapad 320 which Costco sells. My old faithful is a Lenovo and I like it. I am concerned with security, more from stuff being sent to me, but also interference in my computer that could undermine my work. If you want more of an idea of the sort of work I do, you can see the poorly organized blog at https://kentcountynbenvironmentwatch.wordpress.com/ -- almost all of that is my writing, but I also do frontline and organizing stuff. I am on FB if you want to see me there. I hope this additional info answers most questions. -- Thanks again for the quick reply and interest in my situation -- Ann Pohl On 2017-07-15 01:33, ac via talk wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 22:23:05 -0300 > Ann Pohl via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: > >> Hi. Anyone want to do their bit for the environment by helping me get >> set up? I am not wanting to be an OS computer whiz. I have a full >> plate already doing environmental protection'defense work-activism, >> and being a grandmother etc.. > > Hi Ann :) > >> ...I am currently shopping for a new not-fancy computer and need some >> recommendations on which would be best for installing Linux-Ubuntu in >> a dual boot, and I also need an affordable technician to help me do >> that when I get the computer. > are you looking for a portable pc (as in notebook) or desktop? > and dual boot, is that with microsoft windows? (or something else?) > what applications are you planning on using where? > > having two operating systems dual booting and having to patch/protect > both against virus/sec/etc is actually more work than just doing that > for one... Linux has gone mainstream and there are many Linux viruses > (some distro specific) that are in existence... I also use BSD, and > although I have not seen any virus for my specific kit, I am sure I > could make one, so, nothing is really 'bullet proof' anymore... > >> Usually I am in eastern NB but am in the GTA for the summer. I have >> technical support down there, but not up here. My kids are buying me a >> new computer and I need some guidance. I use the Linux - Ubuntu side >> mostly for my work because it deals with a lot of security issues. >> Thanks for considering this request. Ann Pohl > maybe it will be an idea to buy an inexpensive notebook, that works > well with ubuntu & other opertaing system (bsd? windows?) that you want > to dual boot with? > > In that case setting it all up, when new, is fairly easy - it all > depends on your level of security required, what it is you want to > install and what you are planing on using where > > Give us some more info and lets see what all the available options > are :) > > hth > > Andre > --- > Talk Mailing List > talk(a)gtalug.org > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

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Re: [GTALUG] "'Opens source' is not 'free software'"
by lsorense＠csclub.uwaterloo.ca 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 05:44:51AM +0200, ac via talk wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:09:55 -0400 (EDT) > "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: > > I found this article interesting and useful > > <https://opensource.com/business/16/11/open-source-not-free-software> > > This guy disagrees: > > <https://meshedinsights.com/2017/06/07/free-vs-open/> > > imho, it is semantics / point of view.. > > my own pov (ymmv): Truly free and truly open is everything BSD licensed > (including my own BSD released code/projects/software) my GPL etc > licensed software is open, and free if you are only a user, but not so > much free if you are a dev, etc. :) The goal of GPL is the freedom of the source code, and hence the freedom of future users of the source code. It is not the freedom of someone to decide to deny others the same freedom, unlike the BSD license where the receiver is the one that is most free to do what they want. So yes the GPL gives each user less freedom in the interest of giving all users that same level of freedom in using the code. Different goal. -- Len Sorensen

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time_t hits 1,500,000,000 in 5 minutes!
by Stewart C. Russell 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

Go on, you know you want to see it ... $ date +%c\ -\ %s Thu 13 Jul 2017 10:34:20 PM EDT - 1499999660 Stewart

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Interest in an IM for TLUG?
by Evan Leibovitch 13 Jul '17

13 Jul '17

Hi all. A couple of casual; conversations took place before and after Tuesday's meeting regarding the "where to eat" issue. I suggested that maybe some situations such as this could benefit from a real-time chat system. Scott mentioned the PITA factor of TLUG itself creating and monitoring an instant messaging group, so I am volunteering to set this up IFF demand exists. That does not mean everyone has to love it, and email will continue to be the "official" place for meeting notices and official business. But I thought this might be better for those of us who are getting tired of email threads, and the newer generation that by and large detests email. The preferred (and arbitrarily chosen) tool is "Telegram". It's support for Linux is excellent, it has a (unofficial) Pidgin plugin available, and a user base already in the hundreds of millions. I know that many have Skype but I'm trying to wind its use down; the latest update, with all the sine-wave animations, is dreadful. So... please speak up if you think this would be a good thing. If you won't use it, that's OK too. All I'm looking for is reasonable expectation of use. -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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