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Hacklab - Junk Independence Day - Nov. 27th.
by Scott Sullivan 15 Nov '22

15 Nov '22

Knowing the popularity of these events with this crowd. November 27th 2PM – 7PM https://hacklab.to/archives/junk-independence-day/ -- Scott Sullivan

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Tonight's meeting announcement?
by Stewart Russell 15 Nov '22

15 Nov '22

Did it go out? As far as I understand, Colin McGregor will be introducing Linux on Boats.

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CZUR scanners under Linux
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 15 Nov '22

15 Nov '22

We bought a CZUR ET24 Pro. Quite a bit more expensive than other models. It claimed that it would support Linux. <https://shop.czur.com/products/etscanner> I installed the supplied-to-me RPM using "rpm --force". It seems to work. (I only scanned the junk on the desktop where the scanning mat will go.) | From: Kevin Cozens via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> | If it helps I found a page from two years ago where some asked about using a | CZUR scanner. That page said they had installed and ran the Windows software | using Wine but the driver was still an issue. Right. If it worked, that might be the best way. Apparently the scan under MacOS (and probably under Windows) has better OCR than under Linux. Grr. At least if Stephen Wilkinson's review on the product page is correct. | That page pointed to a web page | from four years earlier that said it is a UVC device. We have earlier CZUR scanners which are UVC at a lower resolution than the proprietary scanning software sees. | The scanner has no support in XSane? Not that I've seen. | Is there any support for it in VueScan? I don't know VueScan. | From: Lennart Sorensen via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> | Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Borked Python setup, please help | I see people claiming many CZUR scaners are just UVC devices, and that | there exists programs that can capture from that, like guvcview and a | few others. It strangely does sound like it is actually more of a video | camera than a scanner. They are visible as UVC, but I think that the full resolution isn't what a UVC driver sees. I have not tested this particular model. The other thing is that CZUR has put a lot of effort into optimizing the scanning process. Perhaps some of that also exists in mobile phone camera scanner apps. - puts red reference lines (from LEDs) on the page to figure out and correct for page curvature - (optionally) combines scanning and OCR - a workflow to speed up multipage scanning - little tools to put on your finger to hold down page edges. The software edits these out of the picture. - quite good resolution for the task - various lights to try to avoid glare. | Maybe your model is something else? This model claimed Linux support. We had an earlier one that we liked but we didn't like having to boot Windows and later having to ship the result to the Linux machine. Every step in the workflow is a tax. We'll see if the Linux software is good enough. Eventually.

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Linux on Chromebook
by Michael Galea 13 Nov '22

13 Nov '22

I am hoping to tap the wisdom of the list. I'm going traveling and I don't want to lug around my 5.2 pound T420. Not on this trip. If I buy a cheap refurb Chromebook from Best Buy or Canada Computers: - Will I have luck wiping ChromeOS and installing Debian? Can I still encrypt the disk? - If instead I just run Linux on Chromebook, can I run a wireguard VPN? - Can anyone recommend a minimum spec level for the machine? -- Thanks, Michael Galea

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GPG key signing
by Stef Dunlap 13 Nov '22

13 Nov '22

Hello! This is my first post to this mailing list. :) With the pandemic, what have folks been doing for key signing? Have folks tried doing it remotely, are people meeting 1:1, or are folks just not getting their keys signed? Thanks, Stef D (she/her)

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Borked Python setup, please help
by Evan Leibovitch 09 Nov '22

09 Nov '22

Ubuntu server 22.04 LTS I must have done something really wrong when an app I was trying to install a few days ago insisted on running on Python 2. I installed some stuff (don´t recall what) that made it work, but it appears to have broken the other Python three apps that I have been using on the server. Both `python` and `python3` seem to offer appropriate interactive responses, but when I try to run `deluged` it responds with: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/deluged", line 33, in <module> sys.exit(load_entry_point('deluge==2.1.1', 'gui_scripts', 'deluged')()) File "/usr/bin/deluged", line 25, in importlib_load_entry_point return next(matches).load() File "/usr/lib/python3.10/importlib/metadata/__init__.py", line 171, in load module = import_module(match.group('module')) File "/usr/lib/python3.10/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1050, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1027, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1006, in _find_and_load_unlocked File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 688, in _load_unlocked File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 883, in exec_module File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 241, in _call_with_frames_removed File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/deluge/core/daemon_entry.py", line 15, in <module> from deluge.argparserbase import ArgParserBase File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/deluge/argparserbase.py", line 16, in <module> import deluge.log File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/deluge/log.py", line 19, in <module> from twisted.internet import defer File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 40, in <module> import attr ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'attr' Another app, nzbdplus, reports that it's running properly (after `apt reinstall`) but my usual pointing a browser to the web port 8080 doesn't work (connection reset). When I run it on the console it appears to work -- despite complaining about certificates -- but won´t open for a browser on a local network Any suggestions? Maybe the answer is obvious and I'm just overtired. Many thanks for any help. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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bargain: a 10" tablet that I hope will run Linux
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 05 Nov '22

05 Nov '22

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/d/lenovo-ideapad-duet-3i-82at00f0us-10-tabl…> <https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/IdeaPad/IdeaPad_Duet_3_10IGL5?M=82AT00F0US> <https://forums.redflagdeals.com/microsoft-lenovo-ideapad-duet-3i-window-11-…> Here are some pluses and minuses: + $209.99 (large discount from list price) + 10.3" IPS 1920x1200 touch display - Celeron N4020 (old and slow) - 4G RAM (OK, not generous) - 64G eMMC (slow, not generous, more than enough for a normal Linux distro) + detachable keyboard included - kickstand-like support when using keyboard + decent return policy x86 processors are not the best for tablets but ARM-basaed tablets just don't allow a standard Linux distro to be installed on the bare metal. If you don't care about Linux or Windows, this is probably not the best tablet to get. I've ordered one.

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[GTALUG-Announce] GTALUG General Meeting
by Alan Heighway 04 Nov '22

04 Nov '22

The state of Mozilla <https://gtalug.org/meeting/2022-11/> with Michael Hoye <https://gtalug.org/> 08 November, 2022 at 07:30 PM Mike Hoye will be joining us to talk about where Firefox, Mozilla and the Web are today, and where they're going. We're going to use Big Blue Button for this meeting: *Time:* November 8, 2022 07:30 PM Eastern Time *Join Big Blue Button:* https://blue.lpi.org/b/eva-zjc-gjy-kgl *A*lan *H*eighway <http://heighway.ca/> heighway.ca VA3WAH / VA3YKZ [image: Please consider the environment before printing] --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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DNS benchmarking
by Evan Leibovitch 03 Nov '22

03 Nov '22

Hi all. Can anyone recommend a modern alternative to "namebench <https://code.google.com/archive/p/namebench/>"? That's an old Google Summer of Code project that determines the best-responding DNS servers for any particular installation. Python 2 based, so it doesn't even run without mods on a modern Ubuntu system which defaults to Python 3. Also, it hasn't been updated since 2010 and certainly some of the more-popular public DNS servers have changed since then. What techniques or apps are used now to do this? Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

<https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/clearance/clearance/asus-x415ja-ts31-cb-14%2…> These go in and out of stock. Intel® i3-1005G1: not fast but better than Atom. A little out of date. 14" FullHD (1920x1080) IPS display 8G RAM (4G is socketted so you could replace it with a larger SODIMM) 256GB eMMC (replaceable) I've actually bought three of these. Their condition was perfect. They came in the original box. I didn't notice signs that anyone had actually used them. Fedora 36 runs fine on them. And Win 11 (from slight testing). The integrated GPU is not at all powerful. That doesn't bother me. The battery life is OK, not great. Summary: a very workmanlike notebook and a very affordable price. Here's a ladder of better notebooks but they start at twice the price <https://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-canada-lenovo-e14-609-e15-605-l14-82…> Cheaper notebooks are usually Atom-based and skimp on things that matter. - eMMC flash as disk memory slows the system down - 64GB of disk is constraining (usable but limiting) - 4GB of RAM is OK but seems to curtail the number of browser tabs you can have open - Atom CPUs range from dog slow to slow. + these systems are sometime fanless and sometimes have long battery runs.

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