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Re: [GTALUG] 2 weeks on cell phone and chromebook... never again!
by Russell Reiter 25 Jul '16

25 Jul '16

On Jul 25, 2016 2:35 AM, "ac via talk" <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: <snip> > > > guidelines that say: > > > "Particularly for this list: > > > Don't be the guy on the soapbox, > > > Try to stay out of political, social, or religious issues, > > > Avoid bad jokes, personal rants or similar non-Linux related > > discussion, > > > Any subscribers who offers or requests pirated software, license > > > keys or cracks, and similar will be dropped from the list without > > > warning, and > > I'm with you here too. > > > From my short time on the list I have not seen any of the above? A long time ago on a server far far away .... Ok just kidding, someone did once post a Windows crack on this list, the post was deleted and that issue was part of the formulation of the code of conduct. > <snip the middle> > > > pirates? with ships? one eyed Jack? Dreaded black beard? > do the ships use Linux? should be the question, no? This was the interesting thing about Stuxnet, although it was Windows malware, it seemed to be able to transcend the OS in order to find its target. <snip the middle> > this openness to sometimes diverge from standard Linux topics also > strengthens the community as we get to know each other, learn from each > other and for me personally, to make me a better person :) The debate seems to be mostly about time. The time it takes to craft a reasonable response vs the time it takes to understand a response. And constructive criticism, how that criticism is presented and how it is perceived. I think Hugh hit the nail right on the head in his rebranded post's analysis of this thread. People's feelings get hurt when contents are construed incorrectly. Posting, according to first order reliability method, should have logical rules so that information remains true. I learned FORM as SAP under SOP while taking training in typesetting A single misplaced orthographic character in a printed form can radically alter the meaning of the contents. In cyberspace ... well you can read Hugh's analysis to see the iterative quality of compounded error. > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > Stewart > > > --- > > > Talk Mailing List > > > talk(a)gtalug.org > > > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > Sent from mobile. > > --- > Talk Mailing List > talk(a)gtalug.org > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk Sent from mobile.

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2 weeks on cell phone and chromebook... never again!
by William Park 24 Jul '16

24 Jul '16

I just spent 2 weeks living purely on cell phone (LG Nexus 5X) and chromebook (HP Chromebook 11 G3). Now, I'm back on real computer with real keyboard/mouse. What a difference in productivity! -- William

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Documentary Movie on Stuxnet
by phiscock＠ee.ryerson.ca 24 Jul '16

24 Jul '16

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/13/science_fiction_cyber_war_is_here_alex_gibn… -- Peter Hiscocks Syscomp Electronic Design Limited, Toronto http://www.syscompdesign.com USB Oscilloscope and Waveform Generator 647-839-0325

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Fwd: Toronto Anarchist Bookfair this weekend, Freedombox, raspberry pi
by Bob Jonkman 22 Jul '16

22 Jul '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For my Toronto friends, via the LibrePlanet Ontario mailing list. BTW, there's a LibrePlanet Ontario meeting on Mumble this Sunday, 24 July at 9:00pm. Details at https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Next_Meeting - --Bob. - -------- Forwarded Message -------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:57:51 +0100 (BST) From: Rudolf Olah <rudolfolah(a)tuta.io> To: LibrePlanet Ontario <libreplanet-ca-on(a)libreplanet.org> Subject: [lp-ca-on] Toronto Anarchist Bookfair this weekend, hey everyone, I'm doing a presentation/workshop this Sunday at the Toronto Anarchist Bookfair at around 3pm on using the FreedomBox with a RaspberryPi. The event is at 25 Cecil St, the Steelworkers' Hall on both Saturday and Sunday, you can find out more about the event here: https://torontoanarchistbookfair.wordpress.com I decided that rather than hosting things like owncloud or other packages myself and giving others access to my own small centralized service that it's better to spread the knowledge of how to self-host "cloud" services. The freedombox is great and raspberrypi 2, while not quite free hardware, has enough power that it can run all the services reasonably quickly. I was running Tor, Privoxy, IkiWiki, OpenVPN, Tiny Tiny RSS and other packages on it. - -rudolf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAleSdssACgkQuRKJsNLM5erOQACgqOrxFYoPb/w3X8M4EMCHlEWN J0sAnA1Tm5iYJ9IHN7gYYkf+TPaxMP1T =PWVN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[GTALUG-Announce] Linux in the Park this Saturday
by Myles Braithwaite 22 Jul '16

22 Jul '16

<http://gtalug.org/picnics/2016/> GTALUG is having the annual Linux in the Park Potluck this year at Dufferin Grove Park on 23rd July at 2pm. Things we will provide: Plates, Cutlery, Serviettes, Cups, and Garbage bags. Things you might want to bring: chairs, tasty beverages (that are non-alcoholic, as the city prohibits alcoholic beverages in the park), food stuffs that you would like to share and enjoy, tarp/blanket, sunscreen, hats, things to help survive the warmth of the Canadian Wilderness. We will doing this in a pot-luck style. Thus, please bring enough food and drink for yourself and your guests, and try to bring enough to share with others in the group. We are using the GTALUG wiki to organise everything: <https://gtalug.org/picnics/2016/>. Note that if you forget anything you needed, Dufferin Mall is across the street, featuring a supermarket (No-Frills) department store (WalMart), as well as other speciality stores. ## Location Dufferin Grove Park 875 Dufferin Street Toronto, Ontario <https://goo.gl/maps/hnGg5> <http://osm.org/go/ZX6BHsVZx-?layers=N&way=15703371> ## Social Media Links Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/events/1738615543061007/> ## Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardise the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honoured by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation, or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact one of the GTALUG Board Members @ <board(a)gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce(a)gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Exercises for Computer Users (long)
by phiscock＠ee.ryerson.ca 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

Some years ago, as the result of a really bad workstation arrangement and a huge typing project, my wrists started to display carpal tunnel syndrome. It got serious very quickly and I had to use a Dragon Dictate voice input system to input text. My doctor sent me for physio and I had massage therapy. They didn't help. I was resisting surgery because I had heard that in some cases permanent damage could result. Then my doctor sent me to a Chiropractor/Sports-Medicine doctor, a Dr. Grisdale who has since disappeared as far as I can tell. Dr. Grisdale recommended a regimen of stretching exercises. I had little expectation that this would be effective, but happily it did work and within a week I was on the road to recovery. I've done the exercises ever since, and especially when I can feel the wrists starting to act up. I list these exercises here for someone who might be in the same situation or wish to avoid a problem. These are stretching exercises for the shoulder and upper back, and I do not know why they are effective for the wrists. But they are. Each exercise is 25 repetitions. All are done standing. Wall lean Stand facing the wall with your feet apart and spaced from the wall slightly more than the length of your arms. Tilt toward the wall with your arms outstretched in front so that you are being supported by your arms. Keeping the arms straight, move your shoulders to push yourself away from and toward the wall. Back Press Put your hands together behind your back. Push down with your arms so that your shoulders are pulled rearward. Elbow Touch With your forearms vertical, bring your elbows together in front. Then, still keeping forearms vertical, return the elbows as far to the rear as you can. Shoulder Roll With your arms hanging down loosely, rotate your shoulders in a circular motion. Shoulder Roll, reverse. Repeat the shoulder roll with the direction of rotation reversed. The doctor also gave me a 'theraband' elastic for a couple of additional exercises. Eventually, the theraband broke and I never replaced it, so I don't think those exercises are essential. One exercise involved stretching the band between two hands with the arms out in front. The other required putting the band under ones feet and stretching with arms out front. I would also say that RSI (repeditive strain injury) is a real possibility for people who use computers extensively. An ergonomic workstation is absolutely essential, and the stretching exercises are a big help. Peter -- Peter Hiscocks Syscomp Electronic Design Limited, Toronto http://www.syscompdesign.com USB Oscilloscope and Waveform Generator 647-839-0325

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Small Linux Compatible systems to a new home
by Ansar Mohammed 20 Jul '16

20 Jul '16

Hello All I have a number of DT166, Wyse SX0, ad Wyse Vx0 systems up for grabs. They can all run OpenBSD and Linux. The price is the gas you burn to come pick them up.

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Suggestions: A Book for a Beginner, new to the Linux Shell
by Stewart C. Russell 19 Jul '16

19 Jul '16

A discussion came up in the Toronto Raspberry Pi Meetup* about suggestions for learning to work in bash. We didn't come up with anything much, but if you have any suggestions, I'd be grateful to hear them. cheers, Stewart *: We had a demo of a Thing That Made Really Big Sparks, plus How Not To Cool a Raspberry Pi 3. It was fun.

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Skylake: rocky firmware problem; Note for Asus ZenBook UX305ca owners
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 19 Jul '16

19 Jul '16

Warning: if you have the right kind of computer (with an Intel Skylake processor), Linux will not successfully boot after certain updates. This is a good description of the Fedora version of the problem: <https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/07/07/psa-failure-to-boot-after-kernel-u…> It affects other distros too. I don't know all the hardware it affects, but it includes a bunch of notebooks: Lenovo Thinkpad T460, Lenovo Thinkpad x260, Lenovo Yoga 260, ASUS ZenBook UX305CA, Asus ZenBook UX303UB, Samsung Notebook 9. <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1353103> I was able to fix this on my UX305ca. - there is a firmware update "300" that fixes the problem - install the firmware update from Windows (I didn't try to figure out how to do it without Windows) - the Asus GUI tool for update discovery and installation does not find it. I guess that Asus thinks firmware updates are dangerous. - go to the website with downloads for the UX305ca <http://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-UX305CA/HelpDesk_Download/> - Under the "BIOS" expandable item, find and download "BIOS 300". Unzip it. - you also need the WinFlash (a separate download under BIOS-Utilities). I had previously installed it to flash BIOS 205. Run it, pointing it at the unzipped BIOS 300. - NOTE: (discovered the hard way) the firmware flashing will change at least some of the firmware settings that you made. The one that bit me: I need Secure Boot to be disabled because I'm using unsigned kernels (to work around the i2c bus problems Linux has with Skylake). When I booted with SB on, I got the infamously inscrutable "double free" message from grub: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292615> (Notice who posted this bug.)

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Re: [GTALUG] Suggestions: A Book for a Beginner, new to the Linux Shell
by Kevin Cozens 18 Jul '16

18 Jul '16

On 16-07-17 11:59 PM, ac via talk wrote: > I guess most of us have not used man pages for so many years, hm... that could be an interesting little survey to put up on a website. The question could be "How do you get information about a new program?". The options could be: built-in help, man, info, all of the above, man and info, or other (ie. internet search). I use man pages all the time. I don't remember the last time I used info. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | --Chris Hardwick

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