November 2023 - Talk - lists.gtalug.org

Feature Highlight - Wayland Compositor Hand-Off
by Scott Sullivan 24 May '24

24 May '24

http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/qt6_wayland_robustness/ This is a robustness improvements that let Wayland clients (applications/programs) gracefully survive and reconnect with the Wayland Compositor after a crash / restart or even complete replacement with a different Wayland compositor. X11 Server, from what I understood in my old explorations, architecturally it would not have been possible to get there from within the limits of X11's design. As someone who daily drives KDE Plasam Wayland, I'm really looking forward to this coming down stream. I've at various time suffered the pain of loosing my whole session over crash bugs. A frustrating, but thankfully brief example was a combination of PrusaSlicer and the QT file dialog triggering a compositor crash. It really takes me back 15 years, when the same level of instability was in X11's ecosystem. But I switched to KDE's Wayland compositor because there are meaningful parts that are already surpassing the prior art, and competing with what the commercial OSes are putting out. -- Scott Sullivan

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ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?
by Karen Lewellen 08 Dec '23

08 Dec '23

Hi folks, before simply saying you avoid television, Part of what I do professionally means accessing a great deal, news channels and other things for example. And for me, the, I will just watch it on my computer is a nailed shut door. This entire property is Bell fibe saturated which while it might translate to one of their fibe TV boxes working for me, its almost December and I am no closer to my land line solution..even with photographs of the existing jacks. So,I am wondering if at all, it is still possible from anyone to simply find old fashioned cable box cable. I have all the rest of the equipment, and it all works..even my VCR. I am even wondering if, since the place is so saturated for wireless, if I got an older apple TV, third gen still had optical connectors, or a rocku, I could come up with something. not as good as regular cable, but I am grasping for ideas. thoughts? Kare

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Re-creating a Wordpress Installation
by William Witteman 29 Nov '23

29 Nov '23

I am hoping to benefit from the experience of the group. I have to recreate a wordpress-based website for work, from partial information. I have a database dump, and the contents of the web root - which gives me hope that this is possible. What I don't have are any configuration files for the webserver, and this wordpress site used to live as a subfolder of another domain which has not been renewed - like http://expired.com/my_wordpress_site I also don't have the .htaccess file for the site. I put the files on my local Debian box, and re-created the database, but all the links on the site are broken, because they still try to resolve expired.com. I changed the siteurl in wordpress, but the problem persists, and I am at a loss. Anyone have any advice?

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Re: [GTALUG] Linux Unicorns
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 29 Nov '23

29 Nov '23

| From: ac via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> | I have been wondering about tech unicorns and Linux. It seems to me that Linux has won and been commoditized on the server side. No high-level discussion needs to address this. Several distros are good enough and almost interchangeable in abilities. On the PC side, if you don't wish to demand a dedicated machine, you have to fit into what the market has. 1. Windows of various vintages 2. MacOS. 99. Linux. On the mobile phone and tablet side 1. iOS (not the most users but the most money) 2. Android. 3. Web App of some kind On the dedicate device side: an engineering choice. Embedded Linux if the device is beefy enough. All these decisions are easy. On the device side, it is just an engineering decision. Old Unicorns came from different times. 25 years ago, it wasn't obvious that Linux would be where it is (and isn't). Netflix uses NetBSD for at least some stuff. Making a decision like that today would take serious conviction. | Does anyone on the list actually know (as in personal experience) | whether/which (or even if) most tech unicorns are Linux based or with a | Linux origin story? That may be interesting history but I doubt that it is worth consideration for a new business. More interesting is to figure out how to use the cloud without being tied to a particular vendor.

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Re: [GTALUG] Linux Unicorns
by David Mason 29 Nov '23

29 Nov '23

Hugh wrote: There is room for innovation in infrastructure but it is hard to become a unicorn there since the area is mostly occupied by giants: - Amazon - Microsoft - Google - Oracle... Being cloud platform agnostic is smart. How you do it isn't something I know much about. I wonder if Apple uses Linux for anything or if all their services run on MacOS farms. I couldn't find any useful intel from a Google search. I wonder if anyone here knows. ../Dave

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Re: [GTALUG] Linux Unicorns
by Alvin Starr 27 Nov '23

27 Nov '23

On 2023-11-24 09:50, ac via talk wrote: > I have been wondering about tech unicorns and Linux. > > WARNING : do not read beyond this point if you are not at least > somewhat bored. - reading drivel is a choice, and this does at least > have a warning label :) [snip to keep those with short attention spans reading] > If anyone read up to here it would be much appreciated if you could > tell me that I cannot make a tech unicorn, as this will then motivate > me for the next few years while I get to the gluing of this shiny > horn to this currently very unwilling horse :) > > Possibly you could capture a unicorn. from tvtropes.org: > One of the most archetypal and well-known traits of theUnicorn > <https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Unicorn>is its affinity > for virgin women. In legends where unicorns were characterized as > either fierce and untamable or as incredibly elusive, a virgin maiden > was said to be the only one who could tame the beast or draw it out of > hiding. In works where unicorns are epitomes of benevolence and > purity, virgin maidens are the only ones the creatures allow close to > them — or, in certain cases, to ride them. So you just need to find a virgin. But. Your looking for a tech-unicorn... A Tech virgin? That is going to be hard to find these days. I once heard someone describing the fact that once upon a time the chair was a new technology. So this opens a whole discussion about how virginal you need to be to attract a unicorn. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin(a)netvel.net ||

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cheap cheap Virtual Private Servers
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 26 Nov '23

26 Nov '23

This is the time of year (black Friday / Cyber Monday) when you can get very cheap VPSes. Not necessarily good, but cheap. I have a couple that cost about US$10 or so a year. Sometimes useful for pinging. You can do actual useful things with them, but the resources are fairly constrained. <https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190145/2023-black-friday-cyber-monday-fla…>

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GNOME's "Attach Modal Dialogs"?
by D. Hugh Redelmeier 26 Nov '23

26 Nov '23

By default, when a GNOME application pops up a dialog, it gets glued to (one of?) the application's window: the dialog sits in front of the Window, glued in place. If you move the dialog, the window moves with it. I'm not sure why this is considered useful behaviour. Perhaps because if you misplace the dialog, you might not know that the application is waiting for a response (I've had that happen in Windows). But it means that the dialog might hide something you need to see on the main window to fill in the dialog. At least on Fedora, you can change this behaviour using "GNOME Tweeks". Under Windows, set Attach Modal Dialogs to "off". Does anyone else like this default? <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/443>

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Linux friendly email providers?
by Karen Lewellen 25 Nov '23

25 Nov '23

Hi folks, let me be more specific..some of you tech wizards run your own mail servers laughs. for context, although google is removing access to basic html in January, they pulled my access to it early..and without warning on Monday. So, what I am seeking now is a provider that can.. 1, allow me to export all of my gmail content to them. 2, either allows for user name / password log in directly with a web interface, or where I can ssh into a shell or workspace and find an email client, think Alpine for example. 3, where I can also send email, in theory once I have all of my gmail content, I can set that email to forward without losing access to a great deal of personal, professional, and legal files. Yes, something like Mutt might or might be configured for imap.gmail.com However, I am not a programmer, and given all the changes google is making, wonder how long they will allow third party access of that type. Would rather locate something Linux friendly, and even pay for a door then need to construct my own house if that makes sense. any good options? Kare

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Re: [GTALUG] Browsers (and Thorium to be specific)
by Evan Leibovitch 24 Nov '23

24 Nov '23

Thorium <https://thorium.rocks/> is basic Chrome that is compile-time optimized for new CPUs. Still does Chrome sync and plugin store. Won't run on any system that doesn't have an AVX2-capable CPU. As a result, it claims a conventional Chrome experience but noticeably faster. Apparently the same dev has done the same to Firefox, called Mercury <https://thorium.rocks/mercury> - Evan On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 10:45 AM ac via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:24:20 -0500 > Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> wrote: > > > So ... nobody uses Thorium? > > > i am having a google free black friday... so, Thorium is a web browser? > > which natively does not support .js? or supports it? > > cool name, Thorium. sounds like something like kryptonite for Thor :) > > I can google it 2morrow or you can just tell me today why it is cool? > > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 4:21 AM Ron / BCLUG via talk <talk(a)gtalug.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Don Tai via talk wrote on 2023-11-23 15:46: > > > > <snip> > --- > Post to this mailing list talk(a)gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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