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Inputing Chinese
by rfk-MwcKTmeKVNQ＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Does anyone have any experience with inputting Chinese characters on Linux? My wife Catherine is from Taiwan and has been using W2K with Chinese and was quite happy with it. Her computer had a weird problem and I had to reinstall the OS so I thought I would put on RH 8.0. Her demands were that it had a web browser - easy, a program for watching TV - Xawtv (took some work but I got it), and finally that she be able to input in Traditional Chinese for chat. The documentation for this in English is quite sparse, I understand that Xcin can do the job but I can't figure out how to use it. If I don't get this soon, I'll have to put Windows back on her computer. Thanks for any assistance. Best, Robert Margueretta St. Toronto -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Am I still on the TLUG list?
by mikefisher-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Hi folks, If you see this pop up on the TLUG list please send me a short reply saying you can see it, YES will do nicely. I stopped receiving TLUG list email some time ago and am trying to find out the reason. My anti-spam feature at Sympatico is turned off so it shouldn't be that whatever Sympatico are doing. Cheers, Mike Fisher -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Question re: Qmail and disk quotas
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Kevin Cozens wrote: > If the user goes over quota and exceeds the grace period, they will no > longer be able to create new files until they get back under the soft quota > limit. If an account goes over quota for longer than the grace period how > will this affect their incoming mail? Will qmail still deliver their mail > in to their account or will it be bounced? Can't speak specifically for qmail, but I have seen this situation with another MTA. The mail bounced with a 5xx series error (this is a permanent failure), basically "User over quota". You may like to look at RFCs 2821 & 2822. This is distinct from a situation in which the filesystem is full which would normally fail with a 4xx error (transient failure). In this case remote MTAs will continue to attempt delivery as they would in any other case when delivery was prevented. > I don't have a user anywhere near their quota limits yet. I'm just checking > on expected behaviour. I'd suggest creating a test user, setting a low quota, forcing it over the soft limit and mailing the account to actually cause the condition to occur. A test user is valuable for this sort of thing. When not in use for testing the account should be locked. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Learning PHP
by kcozens-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

At 02:32 AM 08/20/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know of a good course to learn PHP from absolutely nothing? >Before anyone tells me to RTFM, I would like to learn from someone else >and ask questions :) A course would be one way to learn PHP. Do you need one? It would depend on your background. If you have used Perl and/or C in the past then you may be able to pick up one of those "Teach Yourself PHP in X Days" type books. I have been programming a long time (over 20 years) and have used a variety of languages. A decent reference text is all I need to pick up the specific syntax of a new language and to learn what are the available built-in library routines to do various things. I went through the first 8 hours of an "...in 24 hours" book on PHP in about 1 hour and another 2 hours for the next several "hours" in the book. Picking up a book can be much cheaper than most formal courses and you can go at your own pace. It will depend on how much programming background you have, if you have used languages with similar syntax, and if you can pick things up from books easily (some people can't). YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary before someone asks. :-) -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Learning PHP
by kmastin-PzQIwG9Jn9VAFePFGvp55w＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

> Does anyone know of a good course to learn PHP from absolutely nothing? > Before anyone tells me to RTFM, I would like to learn from someone else > and ask questions :) I grabbed a book by Larry Ullman for this. PHP and MySQL for dynamic websites. It takes you through the basics, enough that you can actually start deciphering what's going on in the code and to start writing some of your own and having a semblance of an idea of what's going on. St Christophers House looks interesting too... it might be worth dropping by to see if there's room for another body. -- Keith Mastin BeechTree Information Technology Services Inc. Toronto, Canada (416)696 6070 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Learning PHP
by kcozens-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

At 04:57 AM 08/20/2003 -0700, Visda wrote: >Pardon my ignorance, but what does RTFM stand for? Someone already commented on the more typical version of RTFM. For more polite circles the letters stand for "Read The Fine Manual". :-) -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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hp deskjet 692c
by blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Chris Aitken wrote: > I'm having trouble printing to my hp deskjet 692c. > You might try # cat > /dev/lp1 Hello world. <ctrl-l> <ctrl-d> Cycle through lp1, lp2, lp3 etcetera to find your printer device. Then make sure your device is connected in software: # printtool to the lpd daemon. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Learning PHP
by andzy-bYF1QM81rroS+FvcfC7Uqw＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:32:09 -0400, "Sidney Shapiro" <sidney-3Kd7Tu4o6f/sBN0MCq728g at public.gmane.org> said: > Does anyone know of a good course to learn PHP from absolutely nothing? > Before anyone tells me to RTFM, I would like to learn from someone else > and ask questions :) > > Thanks, > > Sid There's a group of people meeting to learn PHP Thursday nights at 6pm down at St. Christopher House at Ossington & Dundas. I'm sure you'd be welcome to drop in and ask questions there. St. Chris has a computer program at that locaation that is working towards developing a Linux/Open Source learning centre - they currently have five or six computers that will be available for a linux conversion in a couple of weeks so anyone interested in participating might want to pay them a visit and talk to the coordinator Randall. Here's their web page: http://www.bangthedrum.net I've got current versions of Libranet and Xandros that I could contribute to this. ------------------- Andrew Malcolmson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Learning PHP
by hughreilly1-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

>The best thing to deal with abbreviations is google. >You enter ??<the abbreviation> stands?? and that??s it. >in this case you can read: >RTFM stands for Read the f*****g Manual That's news to me. I thought it meant Real Time Feasibility Management... -Hugh > >Bye! > >--- Visda Vokhshoori <visdav-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Pardon my ignorance, but what does RTFM stand for? > > > > TIA, > > Visda > > > > --- Sidney Shapiro <sidney-3Kd7Tu4o6f/sBN0MCq728g at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a good course to learn PHP > > from > > > absolutely nothing? > > > Before anyone tells me to RTFM, I would like to > > > learn from someone else > > > and ask questions :) > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >-- >The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org >TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns >How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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6.2 vs. 7.3
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:47:32PM -0400, Chris Aitken wrote: > I have an acer p166 (64 MB RAM, awe32 sound card, trio s3 virge video > card) which my daughter has been using for WordPerfect 8, MSN (gaim), > music CDs and Internet. It had RH 7.3 and ran a little slow. I upgraded > it to 8.0 to see just how slow it would run - and, ya, it was *too* > slow. I think the hardware is better suited to RH 6.2. That went on > easily and everything seems a little faster. However, I can see I'll > have to a lot of mucking around - no gaim, so I'll have to find > something else that will run MSN, it liked my sound card but then > announced that I'll have to compile sound support into the kernel, > printing already gave me a little trouble. Problem is is that this is > not a test/learning machine - this is my daughter's machine. I don't > want to tell her she has to be off it for days and days while I learn > about makefile, compiling the kernel (for the first time), etc. So, my > question is: Is Rh 6.2 going to so much faster on this machine that's > it's going to be worth my daughter being without a computer for a month > while I try to get it to do what 7.3 will do right out of the box? > > Please, spare the other hundreds of people on the list, the "Gee, Chris, > I know the answer to your problem - it's called Windows - embrace the > Beaast." comments - or at least send it offline - thanks. The simple solution is, you don't want to run wordperfect or anything like it, and not really much of X either on just 64MB ram. If you could get a hold of more ram to get 128MB total it would run much much better. Used ram shouldn't be too hard to find unless it uses weird ram. Should be under $50 to upgrade it I imagine. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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