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Hard drive recovery
by ppieczora-Z6LL8UJvm6I＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

Hi, I've got a problem with one of the hard drives, which unfortunately is not under warranty anymore. It was RMA'ed at Hitachi and worked fine for last 4 months. It was used on G4 workstation with OS X loaded. Yeasterday, drive started to give strange noise which would indicate actuator arm problem (drive is spinning on power up). I've tried to run dft fitness test but motherboard is not able to detect drive. I'm wonderring if any of you could help me find best way to recover, (if possible) all of the data. Sincerely, Peter -- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use a "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I have the South in front of me and the bankers behind me -- and for my country, I fear the bankers most."-- Abraham Lincoln -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Toronto Area Novell Users Group - BrainShare 2004
by rickl-ZACYGPecefkNbK0NzMECUg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

The Toronto Area Novell Users Group (http://www.TorontoNUI.ca) is a virtual community of computer professionals. As you know Novell is active with Linux. If you want leading edge information on what Novell is doing with SuSE and other Linux projects, BrainShare in Salt Lake City, UT is the place to be March 21-26, 2004. Airfare is approximately $550.00CD and hotel is $100.00US or less per day and needs to be booked separately. The Toronto Area Novell Users Group has a BrainShare discount available for chapter members. You will need to send in your NAME, COMPANY, and E-MAIL ADDRESS along with the $35.00CD annual donation payable to: "Toronto Area Novell Users Group" if you are not a current member. See: http://www.torontonui.ca/contact.htm Please do not send this information until you are ready to register. When we receive your information we will email you back a registration code within a week or so which will only be eligible for those people that are the NUI list. The discount is 20% off the early bird price of $1,595US which makes the price $1,276US. This discount will only be good until February 2, 2004. For more information about The Toronto Area Novell Users Group please go to http://www.TorontoNUI.ca/ IMPORTANT 1. This Group Discount applies to NEW REGISTRATIONS ONLY and cannot be combined with any other discount. No refunds will be given if an attendee has already registered and gets the discount code later. 2. The Group Discount does NOT apply to Novell Training Vouchers. If a NUI member is planning on using Training Vouchers to attend BrainShare, the Group Registration code cannot be used. For additional information on the use of Novell Training Vouchers for BrainShare, please see http://www.novell.com/brainshare/new/vouchers.html. Regards, Rick Tomaschuk Toronto Area Novell Users Group Email: info-PE4J8xSbImWvmauoTqQZlQ at public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:26:06 -0500 William Park <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use > > a "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? > > Not sure. But, they do block dynamic IPs, though. Would that in any way require someone to use a "reply-to" setting in their mailer? They are sending from their IStop address, not from their own box. Just curious why someone would make something like this up? -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 08:31:30AM -0500, JoeHill wrote: > > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use > a "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? Not sure. But, they do block dynamic IPs, though. -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hello Every One
by anton-F0u+EriZ6ihBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stephen, Can you please be more specific about the problems you are having. Can you tell us what kind of computer you have (CPU, Memory), what specific applications are giving you trouble, and any error messages you may have received. With the additional information someone can probably help you. Stephen Oulton wrote: | Hi I'm Stephen Oulton | | I have just changed my system to Red Hat 9.0 and I am having trouble | with things running because of the hosts file. | | It suggests that I add CPE0080c6f2a89b-CM00003940c461 to the file. I | have done that and I still get the same error when I log on to the | system. | | Does any one have any suggestions? | | Thanks in advance | Stephen Oulton | | <roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/0gXVRreNkzrRRLQRArypAJ48QDtE6B2NTRu8ECUnrqg3OFT2BwCgjpHz iH+uYq/N3OWHKeEvlZkV/E8= =CJ+P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Debian attacker may have used new exploit
by kru_tch-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:59:43AM -0500 or thereabouts, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, JoeHill wrote: > > > Again, facts and reality fly in the face of this argument. Hackers are > > usually, if not always, aware of these vulnerabilities before the > > security "establishment", and certainly before software designers can > > come up with a > > Years in the security arena make me disagree with this statement. > > Most "Hackers" (I prefer the term Crackers but there you go) are > script-kiddies. The number of Black Hats (people who are actually serious > crackers in their own right) is, and has always been, very small. Far > smaller than the security establishment. > > Most exploits discovered these days are found by those who launch a > concerted effort to detect them. By sheer number and amount of effort > most of the people who discover exploits are in the security establishment > and are not Black Hats. If you had followed the news of the Debian exploit, you will erealize that it was a kernel exploit, that could only have been done, by a very experienced Black Hat. This was no script kiddie, and the Debian Project takes security very seriously. The fact that the attack was discovered within hours, lends testatment to that. I think you should probably be directing your critique to the kernel developers, whom thought that it wasn't likely someone would use the bug to exploit systems. I guess they were wrong eh? I'm just catching up on my reading, apologies if this is mentioned further down the thread. -- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:09:37 -0500 Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use a > > "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? > > I doubt they'd try to enforce something quite so ridiculous. I've never > talked to their support department except in the first few days when Bell > decided to screw with my line. I send my email through their server using my > own domain name, have no problems and never use reply-to. Well, this person is claiming that, due to the fact that IStop uses "a lot of SPAM filtering systems", they have to set a "reply to" or they will somehow "lose e-mail". Setting a "reply-to" for mailing lists is a major headache, and this person refuses to comply with mailing list etiquette. Oh well, whatcha gonna do, there's always one... -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On December 6, 2003 08:31 am, JoeHill wrote: > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use a > "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? I doubt they'd try to enforce something quite so ridiculous. I've never talked to their support department except in the first few days when Bell decided to screw with my line. I send my email through their server using my own domain name, have no problems and never use reply-to. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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M$ to license FAT
by james.knott-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

Marc Lijour (Professeur d'Informatique) wrote: > Le 5 D?cembre 2003 18:21, James Knott a ?crit : > >>cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: >> >>>>As the title says. Impact on Linux ? >>> >>>If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on >>>FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or >>>at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. >>> >>>Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is >>>more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been >>>filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. >> >>The only place I use FAT, is on systems that also run Windows. So, if >>those partitions are created by Windows and just happen to be accessed >>by Linux, would that be a patent violation? > > > I heard that the swap filesystem is build from FAT. Is that true? I doubt it. A swap partiton doesn't need a files system. All the space is available for use. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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