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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Justin Zygmont wrote: > what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too > slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to > see how it is. It's an excellent demo that I do not hesiatate to give to windoze users who are nagging me about 'linux being text mode' and 'having no graphics' and being 'strange' and having 'no office applications'. Knoppix kind of shuts them up rapidly on all these points. Also it is possible to hack (I mean customize) knoppix so you can run about with *your* favorite apps on a cd and use them where you want, without installing anything. Peter > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hello Every One
by roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Hi I'm Stephen Oulton I have just changed my system to Red Hat 9.0 and I am having trouble with things running because of the hosts file. It suggests that I add CPE0080c6f2a89b-CM00003940c461 to the file. I have done that and I still get the same error when I log on to the system. Does any one have any suggestions? Thanks in advance Stephen Oulton <roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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.eu laws: rofl
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Check out EP1249000 on this page: http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/index.en.html Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Justin Zygmont <jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b at public.gmane.org> writes: > what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too > slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to > see how it is. ...or getting more tools for recovery than can fit on tomsrtbt... ...or for some thin clients [although you could use PXE and stuff]... ...or for demonstrating Linux to people without trashing/repartitioning their hard drives... ...or you can still use local disk/USB memory sticks for data storage and leave the knoppix as the easily distributed OS... ...or that cool knoppix+OpenMosix clustering distro... ...or... Yeah, you're right. Kind of useless. I didn't see on the homepage that they shut down, though. Just that the EU patents concern _could_ cause companies and orgs [like knoppix] to shut down. > > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > > > > Peter > > -- > > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- matthew rice <matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. phone: 905-771-0017 x242 thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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european patent horror gallery
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Not all in English but I feel that you will manage: http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/index.en.html Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to see how it is. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > > Peter > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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M$ to license FAT
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: > > As the title says. Impact on Linux ? > > If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on > FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or > at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. > > Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is > more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been > filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. That sounds enough to me. On another list someone did check and the current patents are on long filenames. If you want to read it, here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp also on this page: http://swpat.ffii.org/archive/quotes/index.en.html there is a reference to the creator of virtualdub having a cold call from borg to drop ASF support. And he did. DivX maker is scared. Take a minute and read that page if you haven't already, at least the headlines. The borg seems to be very active now. It seems to be related to that case of scorn. Lacking a winning card, why not throw the whole pack randomly and hope they drown ? Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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dangerous spam
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: > I always thought ".scr" stood for "script." > > <http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/25/pt250059.htm> > > Was I wrong? People who use Emacs as mailer (like you) are exempt from suspicion ;-) Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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OT: ADSL access.
by skuznets-WRMZ5ucGVl4BXFe83j6qeQ＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Hi guys, Sorry for OT but I just curious. I want to make some research what kind of equipment Bell uses on their side for ADSL. Also I curious if Bell, Sprint, ATT Canada shares the same equipment. Could you give me a favor, and send to me ( or to here ) output of command : pppoe -A PS: It just sends the PPPoE PADI request to the BELL's ( or whatever your phone line provider is ) , gets the PPPoE PADO answer and prints it on the screen. -- All the Best! ----------------- Sergey Kuznetsov Senior Software Developer Blueprint Initiative Samuel Lunenfeld Research Institute at Mount Sinai Hospital -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SOT: shitfs in spam trends and topics
by jason-2F8E0OLjuh154TAoqtyWWQ＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

> And a third: bad setup of the spam mailer (which I understand has some > special settings that get updated by mail from 'mother' from time to > time). I have never seen a spam mailer so consider this hearsay. Some > spam I get has so bad a MIME encapsulation that it appears as plain text. I think you'll find this is likely. I work for a company that's been doing a lot of research in to anti-spam techniques as well as research into what kind of spam software there is out there. As a result I've seen a lot of spam software lately. It's surreal to see software with checkbox labels like "optimize against SpamAssassin" and "avoid AOL filters." I've learned that while spamming software makes sending filter-avoiding spam easier than ever, it's quite hard to use for many people, especially the intellectually devoid spammer. One thing you will find after studying spam for a while is that spammers have *terrible* quality control. I've seen so many spam that have been sent out with things like {random_text}} that had the first { been {{, would have inserted random filter-avoiding text. I think the same goes for a complete lack of URL. For instance, it seems some spammers don't seem to understand that if somebody gets their mail, that person can't just hit "reply" and put in an order! They're using a fancy program that creates a random email address, and they have no concept as to what their program is really doing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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