December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

M$ to license FAT
by cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

> Le 5 D??cembre 2003 18:21, James Knott a ??crit : > > cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: > > >>As the title says. Impact on Linux ? > > > > > > If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on > > > FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or > > > at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. > > > > > > Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is > > > more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been > > > filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. > > > > The only place I use FAT, is on systems that also run Windows. So, if > > those partitions are created by Windows and just happen to be accessed > > by Linux, would that be a patent violation? > > I heard that the swap filesystem is build from FAT. Is that true? No, certainly not. Whomever said that was speaking ignorant nonsense. A swap partition has a much more minimal structure than FAT offers. -- let name="cbbrowne" and tld="ntlug.org" in name ^ "@" ^ tld;; http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/x.html "Utter masochists can inspect the handbook in the main Computer Laboratory library and admire its collection of references to the primary literature and for its price (last seen as comfortably over #100)." -- Arthur Norman -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hard drive recovery
by dgenn-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

You can also try using g4u http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ for Linux or Mondo http://www.mondorescue.org/ which are open source and work well. Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org [mailto:owner-tlug at ss.org] On Behalf Of Sidney Shapiro Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:57 AM To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Subject: RE: [TLUG]: Hard drive recovery > Thanks, but I'd like to point out that bios doesn't detect hardrive on the > boot whatsoever, so copying data over cannot happen. Further more Im not > sure about current linux support for HFS+ file system. > > Peter Peter, try using the demo copy of Active Disk Image, and see if it works. I had a similar situation, where I could not get the drive to detect, and this program got it working, and allowed me to copy the entire HD off, sector by sector over a couple of days. This program really saved my bacon. http://www.lsoft.net/products.html Sid -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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MandrakeMove bootable CD
by jason-gaRZxGPHtpBxZtjKW1aY+1aTQe2KTcn/＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Has anyone on the list succesfully run the MandrakeMove cd? I have tried on a dozen different PC's with no success. Kernel panic every time. -- " Eventually people tire of repairing broken Windows, And decide to replace them with something stronger" (o_ //\ Linux - The Choice Of A GNU Generation V_/_ Jason Shein Linux Registered User #281100 jason-gaRZxGPHtpBxZtjKW1aY+1aTQe2KTcn/(a)public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO, MPAA, RIAA jointly sue entire world
by dougish-MwcKTmeKVNQ＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:26:38 -0500, Joe wrote: > >Just a bit 'o humour for your Sunday mornin' > >http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1419246 > >-- >JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 >Registered Linux user #282046 >Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is >mightier still.-- Lao Tsu In a semi-related vein, try this link for a little spam/scam humour: http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm Doug -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO, MPAA, RIAA jointly sue entire world
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:07:03 -0500 dougish-MwcKTmeKVNQ at public.gmane.org wrote: > In a semi-related vein, try this link for a little spam/scam humour: > > http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm "Workshop: Grammatical errors: What's the optimal number?" ROTFLMAO! Thanks...I needed that. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Behind every great fortune is a crime." -- Balzac -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SOT: shitfs in spam trends and topics
by tenger-ew0EfhANLmVEfu+5ix1nRw＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

At 00:58 2003-12-02 -0500, Byron Sonne <blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote: > Is there anyone out there that has paid attention to the trends in spam, > in particular topics? Uh-oh. In the continuing battle against spam, I just lost a point by actually opening one. Here is how I go sucked in: the spam arrived on a mailing list for an open-source software project, and the subject carried the word "bug-automake". Did the spammer just figure that a lot of people on the internet are programmers? Or, did a program pick this term out of previous messages on the list? If the latter technique becomes widespread, it could almost destroy the value of unmoderated lists. Horrible thought! Terry. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO, MPAA, RIAA jointly sue entire world
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Just a bit 'o humour for your Sunday mornin' http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1419246 -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.-- Lao Tsu -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hard drive recovery
by sidney-3Kd7Tu4o6f/sBN0MCq728g＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

> Thanks, but I'd like to point out that bios doesn't detect hardrive on the > boot whatsoever, so copying data over cannot happen. Further more Im not > sure about current linux support for HFS+ file system. > > Peter Peter, try using the demo copy of Active Disk Image, and see if it works. I had a similar situation, where I could not get the drive to detect, and this program got it working, and allowed me to copy the entire HD off, sector by sector over a couple of days. This program really saved my bacon. http://www.lsoft.net/products.html Sid -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hard drive recovery
by ppieczora-Z6LL8UJvm6I＠public.gmane.org 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

> > Since you're going to need new harddisk, buy one. Install Linux on the > new disk , and copy over. Thanks, but I'd like to point out that bios doesn't detect hardrive on the boot whatsoever, so copying data over cannot happen. Further more Im not sure about current linux support for HFS+ file system. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hard drive recovery
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:50:43PM -0500, Peter Pieczora wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a problem with one of the hard drives, which unfortunately is not > under warranty anymore. It was RMA'ed at Hitachi and worked fine for last 4 > months. It was used on G4 workstation with OS X loaded. > Yeasterday, drive started to give strange noise which would indicate actuator > arm problem (drive is spinning on power up). I've tried to run dft fitness > test but motherboard is not able to detect drive. > I'm wonderring if any of you could help me find best way to recover, (if > possible) all of the data. Since you're going to need new harddisk, buy one. Install Linux on the new disk , and copy over. -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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