December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

quiet PC
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

That is certainly not true!! Yes, the power supply plans for sufficient airflow to cool the average chassi but it certainly is not a good idea to run with no cooling at all. Those voltage regulators get very hot and simple convection of the heat to a static air environment will simply not suffice. Madison Wil McGilvery wrote: > If noise is an issue, and if you have an extra pc, why not use terminal services and set up a dumb terminal in the area where noise is a problem. > > Someone correct me if I am wrong, but if you boot from a floppy and leave the cover off, you don't really need the fan on the power supply. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Reply To address messes with tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 07:32, Chris Aitken wrote: > THis is all making sense about 70%. But when I post to the list now, I get > replied to the list, not me. So, why, if I change the Reply To address will > the sender at the other end now send to me not the list? I'm not sure what trouble you're having so let's just talk about reply-to ... There are (at least) two styles of mailing lists: - some lists add a Reply-to: header to their outgoing emails so that all replies will default to the list - some don't TLUG is the first style of list. It adds a "Reply-to: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org" header. If you're adding a "Reply-to: aitken-BwLjziHGQLusTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org" header to your TLUG emails then too bad, it's being stripped off ;-) Personally I much prefer lists that do not force the reply-to header. If I wish to reply to the list I simply say "reply to list" (L in many MUAs). If I wish to reply to the sender I just do the regular reply. Lists that force reply-to muck with the standard behaviour, if you want to reply privately you usually have to do a reply-all, then cut out the addresses that you don't want. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Chris Aitken wrote: > James Knott wrote: > > > Fetchmail can be used to collect the mail from a POP server. > > So, the pop server would be pop3.onlink.net as per usual? > > But the mail clients would be Fetchmail? Hi Chris. Fetchmail is a pop3 client (actually it does other protocols as well). It will pull your mail from your ISP (or whereever) and send it to a local MTA (mail trasport agent like Sendmail or Postfix) ... The MTA runs on the box you want to hold your mail on (your mail server) and is fed by fetchmail. Popclient (fetchmail's predecessor) didn't send mail to an MTA but instead write it directly into people's mailboxes. This was far less flexible. Your mail server can hand mail out to your other machines in a variety of ways, but IMAP would seem to be most suitable for your needs (as others have noted). If you are stating to play with mail there are a few terms it is worth knowing (in addition to MTA above): MDA: Mail Delivery Agent. A utility designed to delivery mail locally. There are lots of these. In recent years I've been using procmail as an MDA for Sendmail. MUA: Mail User Agent. Sometimes called a Mail Client but MUA is the better term. This is the thing the user interacts with to read mail. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by lada-h8kxHjy+vg4AvxtiuMwx3w＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

On December 9, 2003 09:00 am, Madison Kelly wrote: > What CPU and is the Heat Sink and FAN supplied by the manufacturere (AMD > or Intel)? > > Madison > > I have an AMD processor and the noise is not that bad. The motherboard is an old Asus A7V. The motherboard supports fan speed control, but it never actually worked. Asus probably got it working in later versions of the MB. I would like to know what are the thermal solutions for new CPUs having to dissipate 100W of heat. Lada -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by wmcgilvery-6d3DWWOeJtE＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

If noise is an issue, and if you have an extra pc, why not use terminal services and set up a dumb terminal in the area where noise is a problem. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but if you boot from a floppy and leave the cover off, you don't really need the fan on the power supply. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406? FAX www.LynchDigital.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Aitken [mailto:aitken-BwLjziHGQLusTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:39 AM To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Subject: [TLUG]: quiet PC Ladislav Svatos wrote: > On December 8, 2003 10:22 pm, Madison Kelly wrote: > > Hi, > > > > May I make a few suggestions? > > ......... > > Madison > > > The most noisiest fan on my computer is the CPU fan. What do you recommend for > a CPU fan? I think that's the culprit on mine as well. I took the drive bay out this morning and it's quieter but not quiet enough. I think the fan is just dying. Chris -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Reply To address messes with tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org
by lists-tZhE6lH4Esk+k03BA+Hq9g＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi All, On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:32, Chris Aitken wrote: > OK - maybe I'll have to switch to Mozilla from Netscape so I can use profiles - > then I'll have one profile for sending/receiving from/to my business, and another > for > tlug. If you're going to make the move to another mail client may I suggest Evolution for just this sort of thing. If you can spare a separate email address for just receiving list mail then evolution has a very slick way of letting you switch between accounts for sending. Cheers, Oliver -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by IlyaPalagin-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Ladislav Svatos wrote: > On December 8, 2003 10:22 pm, Madison Kelly wrote: > >>Hi, >> >> May I make a few suggestions? >> ......... >>Madison >> > > The most noisiest fan on my computer is the CPU fan. What do you recommend for > a CPU fan? > > Lada I've seen computers (can't remember the brand, either IBM or Compaq), which had just one fan - in the power supply. There was a huge heat sink on the CPU, and it was located in the front of the power supply to be blown out by its fan. That machine was _quite_. Unfortunately, this solution requires non-standard case for computer and power supply. A useful recommendation for a CPU's and other fans: have a motherboard, which tunes rotating speed depending on temperature. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Is the fan making a <grrrrrrrnnnn> kind of sound that sometimes goes away and comes back again, or is consistent? This happens when sleeve-bearing fans (very common) "spin-out", meaning the the sleeve that contains the fluid bearing oil wears through and the oil spins-out, leaving no protectiong against friction. This will in short order cause the fan to seize or stop spinning entirely. Madison Chris Aitken wrote: > Ladislav Svatos wrote: > > >>On December 8, 2003 10:22 pm, Madison Kelly wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>> May I make a few suggestions? >>> ......... >>>Madison >>> >> >>The most noisiest fan on my computer is the CPU fan. What do you recommend for >>a CPU fan? > > > I think that's the culprit on mine as well. I took the drive bay out this morning > and it's > quieter but not quiet enough. I think the fan is just dying. > > Chris > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Speaker Tommorrow Night
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

JoeHill wrote: > > >I swore I would never ever work in the food-service industry again, but I would >gladly bus tables for slave wages in a place like that, as long as you >occasionally undid my chains and let me play with the hardware. > >...and I *promise* not to organize a union ;-) > > SURE Joe, you ALWAYS say that, and then BAM we're all wearing identical hemp dungarees and calling each other "commerade" your regular table, mr. Hill ? djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Looking for 270 or 540MB IDE drives
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Teddy Mills wrote: > I need a few 270 or 540MB IDEs for router projects. > Please email me at teddymills-VFlxZYho3OA at public.gmane.org, if you are downtown Toronto and have > access to a few of these. (2 to N drives) > or know of a place where I can get some of these. Most people would be > throwing these things away. Quite a lot of them would now be failing too. Floppy/CD based routers aren't an option? Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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