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[sumthin]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

Happy Holidays, Jan 19 will be my Apache's one year birthday. In that time I've learned much about running a webserver on Linux. One thing I've seen many times over are GET's for /sumthin/. I don't GET it? Why /sumthin/ and not just /? Is this a way to grab banners, 404's? Does anyone ever put something in /sumthin/? farmer6re9 -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

> Getting to Mountain View, California, during rush-hour traffic > might be a challenge Provided you're not stopped by forest fires or The Governator first.. :) -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

> Getting to Mountain View, California, during rush-hour traffic might be > a challenge Yes, it could be a bit of a drive :-). It doesn't make the release any the less interesting... -- let name="aa454" and tld="freenet.carleton.ca" in name ^ "@" ^ tld;; http://cbbrowne.com/info/spiritual.html "There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge." -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

> On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:52:01PM -0500, Christopher Browne wrote: > > http://freedomtechnologycenter.org/events/ > > X-Mailer: MH-E 7.3; nmh 1.1-RC1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 14) > > > > OpenRISC demo: Monday, December 15, 2003, 7pm > > > > On Monday, December 15, at 7pm, OpenCores developer Damjan Lampret > > will give the first public demonstration of an all-Open Source > > System-On-Chip (SoC) right here at the Freedom Technology Center. > > <snip> > > It's in California... damn! > > > ====================================================================== > > > > This certainly isn't a "barn-burner" as far as performance goes; it's > > no 3GHz Itanic, but then I wouldn't much want the latter, either. > > > > If a system was available at a reasonable price, I'd buy one for sure, > > even though it be somewhat wimpy. > > Me too. In fact, 99% of people woudn't notice if their computer was > swapped with regular 386DX running 1GHz. Drew Sullivan keeps telling tales about "upgrading" by putting in systems with the slowest CPUs he can find, but with reasonably snappy disk drives, which leaves everyone happy. Doubtless anyone that looks at specs would be _appalled_ if they discovered that someone was installing servers with any less than the highest number of GHz, but realistically, though, they probably wouldn't know how many instructions a second those CPUs _truly_ execute. (After all, it's not 1 cycle per instruction...) -- output = reverse("moc.enworbbc" "@" "enworbbc") http://cbbrowne.com/info/wp.html Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by legrady-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Getting to Mountain View, California, during rush-hour traffic might be a challenge Tom Legrady Christopher Browne wrote: >On Monday, December 15, at 7pm, OpenCores developer Damjan Lampret >will give the first public demonstration of an all-Open Source >System-On-Chip (SoC) right here at the Freedom Technology Center. > > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:52:01PM -0500, Christopher Browne wrote: > http://freedomtechnologycenter.org/events/ > X-Mailer: MH-E 7.3; nmh 1.1-RC1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 14) > > OpenRISC demo: Monday, December 15, 2003, 7pm > > On Monday, December 15, at 7pm, OpenCores developer Damjan Lampret > will give the first public demonstration of an all-Open Source > System-On-Chip (SoC) right here at the Freedom Technology Center. <snip> It's in California... damn! > ====================================================================== > > This certainly isn't a "barn-burner" as far as performance goes; it's > no 3GHz Itanic, but then I wouldn't much want the latter, either. > > If a system was available at a reasonable price, I'd buy one for sure, > even though it be somewhat wimpy. Me too. In fact, 99% of people woudn't notice if their computer was swapped with regular 386DX running 1GHz. -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Do I need sgi_fam?
by jkls-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

I can't believe it's been three weeks but thank you for this detailed answer. I have been setting up Gentoo on a P400. "emerge system" took up one whole computing weekend. I absolutely love the results. Thanks again. LS Walter Dnes wrote: >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 12:53:54PM -0500, jkls wrote > > >>Ok, I've found where it may be started. >>It's in inetd.conf. So I wonder why it >>is always running and do I actually need it? >> >> > > FAM (File Access Monitor) is a program that monitors constantly >monitors specific files for any changes. Here's the theory... > > If you're running one program that needs to update a screen when a >file changes, the program can poll the file every few seconds. But what >if you're running a whole bunch of programs that need to track file >changes ? Rather than have several programs scanning your drive, the >FAM daemon does all the monitoring and informs client programs when >files have changed. If there is any overlap, FAM will inform both >clients, polling the file only once, saving a bunch of disk accesses. >With multiple file-browsers on multiple desktops, this is supposed to >be the most efficient method. > > Now for the implementation. FAM is *NOT* a "well-known service" with >a reserved port in /etc/services. So it has to register with sunrpc on >port 111 (hello L1on and other linux worms of a few years ago) and is >assigned an un-used port. Client programs query sunrpc for the port >number of FAM, and then talk to FAM on the assigned port. I don't think >that programs require FAM to run. This is different from Redhat which >set up KDE with dependancies to not install if FAM wasn't installed. > > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Free Architecture, Maybe?
by cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

http://freedomtechnologycenter.org/events/ X-Mailer: MH-E 7.3; nmh 1.1-RC1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 14) OpenRISC demo: Monday, December 15, 2003, 7pm On Monday, December 15, at 7pm, OpenCores developer Damjan Lampret will give the first public demonstration of an all-Open Source System-On-Chip (SoC) right here at the Freedom Technology Center. The new OpenCores System-On-Chip, developed and manufactured by Flextronics Semiconductor, runs Linux, uClinux, or eCos. The SoC is exclusively built with freely licensed OpenCores IP cores. The chip includes the OpenRISC OR1200 32-bit processor, a Memory Controller for SDRAM/FLASH/SRAM, a 10/100 Mbps Ethernet MAC, 32-bit, 33/66MHz PCI support, and a 16550 UART. Lampret said, "Are open source soft cores starting to have impact on the semiconductor industry? Yes, slowly but irreversibly. What started in 1983 with the GNU project is now starting in open source hardware with OpenCores, 20 years later." The demonstration will cover the System-On-Chip, how it was designed and the manufacturing technology used. Special attention will be paid to the processor, the OpenRISC. It is a completely new RISC architecture developed using open source model. The GNU Compiler Collection (gcc) was ported, along with the GNU Binary Utilities including the assembler, linker, and debugger. An advanced simulator was built that can simulate now only the processor but an entire SoC, and of course a complete synthesizable RTL implementation was developed. A live presentation will show how the GNU development tools gdb and DDD can be used to download software code and debug it on the board. The OpenRISC OR1200 has a memory management unit (MMU), so can run either conventional Linux, which requires an MMU, or uClinux, which is intended for processors without an MMU. ====================================================================== This certainly isn't a "barn-burner" as far as performance goes; it's no 3GHz Itanic, but then I wouldn't much want the latter, either. If a system was available at a reasonable price, I'd buy one for sure, even though it be somewhat wimpy. -- (format nil "~S@~S" "aa454" "freenet.carleton.ca") http://cbbrowne.com/info/postgresql.html "If God meant us to be vegetarians why'd He make cows out of meat?" -- seen on a bumper sticker -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Open-source software gets boost at UN
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Fred Nastos wrote: >Great. I can hear it now, "Opensource software? Isn't that third-world >software? Like they use in developing countries." Don't worry too much. As the trend goes, there will be more and more proprietary software used in developed countries made in developing countries. It may even come a time when it is easier for a software developer to join a development of an open source software than a proprietary software (since he/she join it as volunteer), and therefore an open source software will have more developer from developed countries than proprietary software. :-) -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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hard drive wanted
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

>>I could make use of one of tose drives. My old Mac 7200 >>has a tiny and a small drive, they could both fit onto >>a 2GB drive and have some room for growth. Cool... just mail me off list then and we can arrange a time or something. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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