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by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Fraser Campbell wrote: > > > There's a reason it wasn't suggested before, see the problems that you are > > having ... > > fwiw it works here between SO, Nestcape, pine and a windoze email client > (I forget which, I think Eudora) just perfectly. The server is local (on > my network). Oh, and Kmail, and TkMail and a couple of others. It's a question of having the right popper (pop3 server). I use the one tht comes with postfix. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Open-source software gets boost at UN
by nastos-JAjqph6Yjy8fbXvGcxQkLSwD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

> participants, but the free software did get a mention as an important > option for developing countries to consider. > ... Great. I can hear it now, "Opensource software? Isn't that third-world software? Like they use in developing countries." -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Mandrake liveCD site
by aacton-B71PBEe7S7Y＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On 12/11/2003 01:31:21 PM, bob findlay wrote: > Does anyone know the URL for the new Mandrake liveCD? It's on all the mandrake mirrors. See http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3 for a list. Austin -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Open-source software gets boost at UN
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Open-source software gets boost at UN http://www.iht.com/articles/121033.html Thursday, December 11, 2003 GENEVA: A months-long backroom battle led by Brazil, with support from India, South Africa and China, against the United States over open-source software took center stage Wednesday at the UN information summit meeting here. ... Brazil wanted the summit talks to endorse the idea that the digital divide cannot be bridged with proprietary software and that open-source software, which is developed collaboratively and exchanged freely over the Internet, is the best path forward. The language was watered down considerably in the summit meeting's written declaration after pressure from developed countries, according to participants, but the free software did get a mention as an important option for developing countries to consider. ... -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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In the Beginning was the Command Line
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Marcus Brubaker wrote: ... > Interesting side note: I once heard it said that the author of the > Wizard of Oz was strongly in favor of having a resource backed > currency. So much so, in fact, that he wrote it into the story, "Follow In view of the tricks governments and other entities employ nowadays to fake their ability to back their currency with resources, that makes perfect sense to me. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Mandrake liveCD site
by fcsoft-3Emkkp+1Olsmp8TqCH86vg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Does anyone know the URL for the new Mandrake liveCD? -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Fraser Campbell wrote: > There's a reason it wasn't suggested before, see the problems that you are > having ... fwiw it works here between SO, Nestcape, pine and a windoze email client (I forget which, I think Eudora) just perfectly. The server is local (on my network). Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KDE/Mandrake 9.1
by cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

JoeHill wrote: >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:19:27 -0500 >Clive DaSilva <cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > >>Had a really weird experience yesterday. I have been running mandrake >>9.1 with the stock kernel 2.4.21-013mdk, for perhaps 3 months. >>I read an advisory which suggested that I upgraded the kernel to >>2.4.21-026mdk, (all nicely packaged by the Drake folks), as a >>preventative measure against some root exploits. I use KDE 3.1 as the >>window manager, and since I've installed this kernel, KDE sometimes >>doesn't come up when I login as a user (it just hangs), or it comes up >>and crashes within 5 minutes. I have since been using IceWM as my backup >>window manager. Now, I've kept the old kernel, so I have a choice of >>kernels to boot from. When I try to run KDE using the old kernel, it >>crashes too. >> >> > >I haven't seen anything like this come up on any of the Mandrake lists, but I >would suggest asking as well on Expert. > >Do you see anything in /var/log/messages or /var/log/XFree86.0.log? > >It could be that KDE was compiled against the old kernel and is pitching a fit >now that newer modules are being loaded, though why when you boot into the *old* >kernel would hence be a mystery. > > > Hello Joe Thanks for your comments. I could see KDE barfing at the new kernel and modules, but as to why I had probs with my original kerenel, well who knows. I thought perhaps that I should remove KDE all together and then re-install it from the Mandrake CD, but I decided against, wasn't too thrilled with KDE anyhow (bloatware). My solution was to use the XFCE window manager which is small and light, allows me to use all the KDE applications, etc Thanks for your comments Clice -- Clive DaSilva CMA Home Tel: 416-421-2480 Cell: 416-560-8820 Email: cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Freevo
by hgr-FjoMob2a1F7QT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Jason Shein wrote: > Anyone here tried Freevo? > http://freevo.sourceforge.net > > Judging by the screenshots it's someone local working on it > http://freevo.sourceforge.net/screenshots_blue_round2.html#freevo_ss2 > Notice the local content ;) Andrew Howlett <andrew-ZJRhTDE95TDR7s880joybQ at public.gmane.org> who spoke on _Linux Games_ at the August NewTLUG meeting mentioned that he and a friend (?) were involved in freevo. In fact he suggested that he may be able to do another Newtlug talk on freevo next year. > Any experiences good/bad before I jump into my next project here? > > > -- Herb Richter <hgr-FjoMob2a1F7QT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> Toronto, Ontario http://PartsAndService.com http://PartsAndService.ca -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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DRM gets more frightening by the moment
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Quote: "Instead of containing a song or movie itself, the file would set up a process that automatically delivers files in the right format and potentially triggers an automatic payment system that could be changed moment to moment by the content distributor." Potentially, my ass. Link: http://news.com.com/2100-1027-5119365.html -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man."-- Declaration of the Rights of Man -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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