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In the Beginning was the Command Line
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:51:40 -0500 lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: > I wonder what some south american countries would think of your idea. I > don't think their devaluation of money has helped their economy at all. LOL! Of course, it doesn't work if *everyone* doesn't participate. Besides, it's a little more complicated than the one-line explanation that I provided, so I don't think you can take too much from it. > Incentive to spend rather than horde may be an OK idea, but money that > looses value isn't necesarily such a good thing, although I guess at the > moment basic interest rate isn't doing much better than inflation. Of > course encouraging people to spend money they don't have is a really bad > idea and I think that too happens sometimes when spending is encouraged > too much. Well, only *money* loses value, so there's not necessarily any real effect on personal wealth. One's wealth comes from material and/or service accrual, and *cash flow*, instead of interest. You'd be better off reading about it from someone who can explain it in more detail, in the long run. That was really just a one-liner in a much bigger argument, an example of an alternative mainly. Thanks for correcting my spelling of "horde" though, it does have a bit of a different meaning the other way... ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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mangled SMTP headers with spamassassin / qmail / debian stable (long)
by michael-3aH0qR8MVRD3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hi, after re-reading my email I might have left out one piece. The mail coming into the relay machine is pushed to qmail via a shell script called /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue:---- #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/spamc | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue.orig ---- I moved the original binary file qmail-queue to qmail-queue.orig . When I remove the shell script and rename the .orig file back to qmail-queue, the system relays i.e. all SMTP header info is correct. Any ideas?-- michael -------- Original Message -------- Subject: From: owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Date: Wed, December 10, 2003 3:46 pm To: Hi, I've been using Debian for about 4 months on the desktop and was so impressed with unstable, that I decided to migrate my home firewall away from Red Hat 7.3 to Debian stable. I'm running qmail and have installed spamassassin 2.20, which relays into an Exchange machine on the internal network via user .qmail files. The problem I'm having is that the SMTP header information is getting mangled somewhere along the way. The emails appear on the Exchange box, but only show the sender's email address, and the subject line of (no subject). I get this for SMTP header info:---- Received: from lisa.gravis.ca ([192.168.2.1]) by marge.cap.lan with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:13:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 23317 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Dec 2003 20:13:06 -0000 From: mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA at public.gmane.org Bcc: Return-Path: mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA at public.gmane.org Message-ID: <MARGEKufVma0osA91E9000000ea-TR6deuPAjhjrpQ1Nw3gw2A at public.gmane.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2003 20:13:06.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[05E80740:01C3BF5A]Date: 10 Dec 2003 15:13:06 -0500 ---- This appears to be only the SMTP header info added from the relay qmail box over to the Exchange machine. In the body of the message, the full SMTP header info is printed: ----

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mangled SMTP headers with spamassassin / qmail / debian stable (long)
by michael-3aH0qR8MVRD3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hi, I've been using Debian for about 4 months on the desktop and was so impressed with unstable, that I decided to migrate my home firewall away from Red Hat 7.3 to Debian stable. I'm running qmail and have installed spamassassin 2.20, which relays into an Exchange machine on the internal network via user .qmail files. The problem I'm having is that the SMTP header information is getting mangled somewhere along the way. The emails appear on the Exchange box, but only show the sender's email address, and the subject line of (no subject). I get this for SMTP header info:---- Received: from lisa.gravis.ca ([192.168.2.1]) by marge.cap.lan with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:13:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 23317 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Dec 2003 20:13:06 -0000 From: mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA at public.gmane.org Bcc: Return-Path: mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA at public.gmane.org Message-ID: <MARGEKufVma0osA91E9000000ea-TR6deuPAjhjrpQ1Nw3gw2A at public.gmane.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2003 20:13:06.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[05E80740:01C3BF5A]Date: 10 Dec 2003 15:13:06 -0500 ---- This appears to be only the SMTP header info added from the relay qmail box over to the Exchange machine. In the body of the message, the full SMTP header info is printed: ----

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[SPAM] a test for spam
by mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

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A couple of questions (win rsync does exist!)
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> I don't think 'rsync' is available on Windows. You can go the other > way, though, ie. backup Windows to Linux. Having retweaked my setup I've started backing up everything in the house lately, and with my boxen either linux or bsd, rsync gets used. My wife just finalized her move from windows to mac (OS X), but the need existed to back up both machines. How I feared that I'd have to go without rsync! But that wasn't the case. Found gui rsync programs for both platforms, though I can't remember their names right now. I suspect 'winrsync' or 'windows rsync' were the search strings I used. The OS X software was right off Apple's site and was just a layer on top of a port of rsync methinks. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:29, Chris Aitken wrote: > > Tick the box that says 'leave messages on server' in Nestcape > > email options (also delete deleted mail on server if you have it). Then > > you can access the same mail from as many clients as you like (with the > > same settings as shown above). > > Interesting that it took a while for someone to suggest the lowest tech > solution of all! Not that I'm complaining, as I think procmail, fetchmail > et al are in my very near future. : ) There's a reason it wasn't suggested before, see the problems that you are having ... > I was doing what you suggested > but, for a reason unbeknownst to me, one machine is not playing nice > in the sandbox: Even though I have the setting you suggest (along with > 'when > deleting a message locally, remove it from the server') the mail does stay > on > the server, but the same mail keeps loading over and over. So, I get -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Robert Brockway wrote: >I can't think of any IMAP servers that are closely tied to an MDA. For example, UW-IMAP support a mailbox format "mbx" <http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/#4.5>. To allow MTA to deliver mail into that format, there are MDAs such as dmail and tmail created specifically to do the delivering. These tools are part of mail-util package <http://www.cygwin.com/packages/uw-imap-util/>. >One of the great things about email is that it is so easy to mix & match >different receipt (MTA), delivery (MDA) and pickup methods (MUA or IMAP >or POP3). Well, since both MDA and IMAP server both access the mailbox, the format of mailbox chosen will dictate what MDA and IMAP server can chosen. -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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hard drive wanted
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> I am looking for a small harddrive, maybe around 2+ gigs, for linux test > installs. My current drive has been giving me problems, so i'm throwing > it in the trash:) If anyone happens to have one, please let me know what > you want for it, and maybe we can make a deal. I have a bunch in ~2GB and ~4GB, but SCSI only I'm afraid. However, having gone through my stash and reorganized I found I have more SCSI controllers than I thought. I'd have no problem throwing one in but you're probably looking at only 10MB/s xfer rate. 2940AU I believe. If anyone else out there needs a drive the offer's open for that too, but minus a controller since I need to hang on to the rest. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > turn related closely to the choice of IMAP server. In fact I think some > IMAP servers have MDA specifically made for them. I can't think of any IMAP servers that are closely tied to an MDA. Remember, the MDA is part of mail delivery while IMAP relates to mail pickup. They are quite distinct (but complementary) tasks. One of the great things about email is that it is so easy to mix & match different receipt (MTA), delivery (MDA) and pickup methods (MUA or IMAP or POP3). Ok, so I'm mixing protocol & non-protocol acronyms there but I hope it is clear what I'm saying. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A couple of questions
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:46:56PM -0500, William Park wrote: > I don't think 'rsync' is available on Windows. You can go the other > way, though, ie. backup Windows to Linux. cygwin if nothing else is. There may even be rsync with native windows support. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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