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(remote) install fest
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On December 17, 2003 01:35 am, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > I'm glad you mentioned this, though, since you gave me an idea as > to how I can help someone I know needs a serial connection on a newer > laptop without a serial port You can buy a usb-to-serial convertor. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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(remote) install fest
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > We've got a donation of a Netfinity 5500 server that we will be installing > Debian on this week. It's in a location we can't always access, so I was > planning to boot with Knoppix and then do a debrootstrap install at our > leisure over SSH. So, if you or anyone else wants to come around and May I suggest you look into configuring a software serial console and either put it in the back of another server or connect it to a modem. As always assess your security needs when allowing access to the console. If there is someone on-site who can connect the console modem to the phone network on request (and disconnect it afterwards), a console on dialup probably isn't too insecure. Connecting the serial console to another box which is accessible only via ssh is also good as long as you trust the owners of the other box. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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(remote) install fest
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:59:06PM -0500, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > You could come over to St. Christopher House at the corner of Dundas & > Ossington where we need to figure out the same thing and we could all > learn together. > > We've got a donation of a Netfinity 5500 server that we will be > installing Debian on this week. It's in a location we can't always > access, so I was planning to boot with Knoppix and then do a > debrootstrap install at our leisure over SSH. So, if you or anyone > else wants to come around and check out the Linux excitement, this > week is probably a good time to check out the program since we're > having a Christmas party Wednesday starting at 5:30. I've lost the previous threads. What will you be using it for? What does St. Christopher House do (I'm not familiar with it)? -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Is there a thinkgeek.com-like gift shop in Toronto?
by nastos-JAjqph6Yjy8fbXvGcxQkLSwD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Hi, Does anyone know of a shop in Toronto that sells items similar to those found at thinkgeek.com? That is, is there a geek gift store in Toronto? I know some items can be found in various shops, but is there any one partcular shop that has a geek slant to it. Thanks -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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(remote) install fest
by tenger-ew0EfhANLmVEfu+5ix1nRw＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

At 23:59 2003-12-15 -0500, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:34:54 -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > Once I get my laptop under control again, I'll want to start working on > > my server. I've leased some rack space, but it has RedHat on it. I > > prefer Debian. I'm totally fine installing Debian, however, I've never > > done it remotely. I was wondering if I could bribe anyone(s) to give me > > a hand with this. > > You could come over to St. Christopher House at the corner of Dundas & > Ossington where we need to figure out the same thing and we could all > learn together. > > We've got a donation of a Netfinity 5500 server that we will be installing > Debian on this week. It's in a location we can't always access, so I was > planning to boot with Knoppix and then do a debrootstrap install at our > leisure over SSH. So, if you or anyone else wants to come around and > check out the Linux excitement, this week is probably a good time to check > out the program since we're having a Christmas party Wednesday starting at > 5:30. Gee, I would like to see how to do a remote installation, but I cannot make the party. If you have any other working sessions I could evesdrop on, I would like to try to fit them in. Thanks, Terry. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; dare ya !
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, William Park wrote: > But, how would you run Vim or LaTeX? You would have to dial out every > time you turn your computer on, no? Is that like doing network install, > every time? It's more like browsing with a proxy. After you browse for a day 90% of the sites you want are in the proxy and you can disconnect and keep using them. Then the remaining 10% will come in slowly, as you need it, when you connect. When you have too many you purge the cache (selectively or not). I like the idea but it practically requires broadband. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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More "end of the desktop PC"
by fcsoft-3Emkkp+1Olsmp8TqCH86vg＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

http://www.icanprogram.com/selfhostedCD.html I think somewhere in here is the idea that could replace the PC without actually relinquishing local control of the data. I for one would love to be able to update my desktop system by simply popping in a new CD, knowing with confidence that all my configurations and data on the harddrive would be untouched and intact. On December 15, 2003 03:08 pm, you wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, JoeHill wrote: > > I've been reading articles like this for years now, in various forms > > Yeah this idea of remote servers under someone elses control has been > around for quite a long time. > > > proclaiming that the home desktop PC is a flawed and obsolete model, and > > that all of our software should be run from secure servers instead. > > I see two seperate issues here... > > Personally I think the desktop PC is a flawed idea overall (from a system > management point of view) but giving up control of data to a remote entity > is even worse. > > The middle ground is a thinclient solution. I can giveup the desktop PC > (replacing it with a "dumb" display device) but still keep the central > server under the control of the owners of the data. > > Rob -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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More "end of the desktop PC"
by jmm-TU2q2He6PgRlD5gtYiU6kEEOCMrvLtNR＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:29:41AM -0500, JoeHill wrote: > > We should have something in the Charter of Rights about the "right to bear > computers" :-P Yeah, a bear computer to replace this pig would be nice. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Albatron motherboards
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:23:51PM -0500, Anton Markov wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Following my motherboard problems (See "What to do with kernel > panics?"), I have decided to buy myself another motherboard (the one I > got apparently supports FSB up to 400MHz; my P4 runs at 533MHz). > > I am looking at the Albatron PX845PEV-800 (or perhaps the Albatron > PX865PE PRO II). I would like to know if anyone has had any good/bad > experiences with these, as well as how compatible they are with Linux (I > am going to do a search on that myself too, but I want a real-world > opinion). Well I for one have never heard of them (which in my book is not a good sign. it doesn't mean they are bad, just that they are an unknown and support may hence not be that good.) I am one of those people that only buy Asus boards. For a P4, the P4P800-DLX is a very nice board. It is an i865 based board, which seems to be the most popular for P4s at the moment (i875 seems overpriced). Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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More "end of the desktop PC"
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:02:56 -0500 "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> wrote: > Just be thankful that the web exploded and created itself in a > big-bang event that caught the regulators flat-footed. Look at what > happened with satellite TV. Following the same pattern, we'd now all > have 9600 bps dial-up, and we'd only be allowed to view Sympatico.ca > internal webpages. The CRTC has tried to "make the internet safer for > children" on a couple of occasions, but gotten nowhere. However, if > there only a few major servers running our programs, it'll make things > "so much easier" for regulators. Ok, so I'm not alone here in thinking this is a *bad* idea. Someone mentioned .NET, the idea of being tied to something like that scares the bejeebers out of me. It's about as secure as a broken screen door, to begin with. ...and yes, I am thankful. We should have something in the Charter of Rights about the "right to bear computers" :-P -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third."-- Timothy Leary -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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