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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Jason Shein wrote: > Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released > > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.0 > > Finally it is official :) > > Let the compiling begin. > > Yahoo ! I'll be following (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949) *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel unless some body out there has a better guide OR is capable of / wants to compile custom kernels remote via ssl WOW what a sservice that would be, eh ? djp * -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; dare ya !
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Peter L. Peres wrote: >On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, William Park wrote: > > > >>But, how would you run Vim or LaTeX? You would have to dial out every >>time you turn your computer on, no? Is that like doing network install, >>every time? >> >> > >It's more like browsing with a proxy. After you browse for a day 90% of >the sites you want are in the proxy and you can disconnect and keep using >them. Then the remaining 10% will come in slowly, as you need it, when you >connect. When you have too many you purge the cache (selectively or not). >I like the idea but it practically requires broadband. > >Peter > > The difference there is that with web content, you want _todays_ news, but for applications, _this month_ is often OK. meaning that you only have to refresh the application cache when you intend to "upgrade". -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[TLUG] (remote) install fest
by taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:34:33AM -0500, William Park wrote: > Ah, I see where's the confusion. Once you mount NFS root, you have a > "normal" root tree. So, this is no different from your fully loaded > computer. How do you get the remote server to open XDM login prompt on > your screen. Essentially, you do 'X -query server', right? Yup! > With X-terminal, we automate this by modifying /etc/inittab. In > Slackware, run level 4 is XDM mode and it will run /etc/rc.d/rc.4. You > can edit that, or assign unused run level 5 for X-terminal purpose. You > can also trim NFS root tree, because once X is up, everything will be > run on the server. This is where Fraser's comment comes in. Yes, we can do the XDM bits in /etc/inittab on the mounted NFS filesystem and all... But why not use the LTSP packages for client kernel/BOOTP server/NFS configuration/server X configuration/maybe some specialised admin tools? That's all LTSP is: diskless NFS-rooted X terminals plus server in a pretty set of packages. :) -- taa "One measure of sanity is how closely one's internal representation of the world really resembles the world. By this measure humans are at least quite unsane." -- Ad Krzybsk /*eof*/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[TLUG] (remote) install fest
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:58, William Park wrote: > > Incorrect. PXE is about getting a kernel loaded into memory, the same > > job and purpose as etherboot, netboot or romamatic. PXE facilitates > > LTSP it definitely does not obsolete it. > > Here we go again... After you boot and mount NFS root, you're looking > at the root tree that used to be local harddisk (except now it's > remote). You tell me why LTSP is necessary. My main point was that PXE doesn't obsolete LTSP, how you get a kernel to your diskless workstation is irrelevant to the system you're booting (be that LTSP or whatever you're suggesting).. It's quite possible that I misunderstand what your saying can be done. If you boot a diskless workstation from "bigserver" are you suggesting that bigserver's / filesystem should be mounted as / on diskless workstation? If so (correct me where I am wrong) you would have to modify countless items on the server's root filesystem to make it work correctly: - /etc would be shared ... do you write a pile of custom init scripts for handling things that need changing depending on whether / is being mounted locally or by nfs? - how do you handle writable dirs such as /tmp, /var/tmp and /var/log ... do you just let both diskless workstations and bigserver write to them as they see fit (sounds like a nightmare to me) Regardless of whether you're talking about mounting server / on client / or /server/somerootfs as / on client the advantage of LTSP is that all the hacking you need to do to get it working smoothly has been done for you. Perhaps you can walk me through how you configure a diskless client so that I understand what you mean? -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by cmb-h7HJ8Pof2EbbR28j2ZUwYgC/G2K4zDHf＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Apparantly flu virus detection and removal is similar to the problem of detecting and removing real (computer) viruses. They change all the time, and if you don't have the latest signature, then you aren't covered for the latest virus. Maybe the flu shot people let their subscription lapse. Charly Baker On Thursday 18 December 2003 9:23 am, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > > I know a lot of people who did who got sick anyway. This years strain > > seemed to have been missed. I can see you have been taken by the > > That was reported on the TV news a few days ago iirc, although they did > say a strain "similar" to this year's the major flu was included. Yay :) > > I don't believe this is a case of anyone being inept. From what I > understand, figuring out which flu will be the serious one in any given > year can be a matter of guess work, and as a result they can get it wrong. > > Rob -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[Sophisticated Searches]
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 08:29, GDHough wrote: > I would like to extract specific information from lines in log files and > perform math functions on them. Grep is ok for getting the lines I want and > putting them where I want them. But I've reached a limit in what I can do > because I lack the education. > > Two things I need to learn: > > 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in > Ethereal. > > 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after > doin $ummath on $omefield. While you can do everything you want with various shell tools you'll probably find it much easier to use a higher-level (?) scripting language; perl or whatever alternative you prefer. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > I know a lot of people who did who got sick anyway. This years strain > seemed to have been missed. I can see you have been taken by the That was reported on the TV news a few days ago iirc, although they did say a strain "similar" to this year's the major flu was included. Yay :) I don't believe this is a case of anyone being inept. From what I understand, figuring out which flu will be the serious one in any given year can be a matter of guess work, and as a result they can get it wrong. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[Sophisticated Searches]
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, GDHough wrote: > 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in > Ethereal. Are you aware of the ability to do regex expressions in grep? This should do exactly what you want. > 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after > doin $ummath on $omefield. If I was sticking to shell I'd use "cut" here. > I've been looking at man pages and am thinking awk sort uniq ... am I looking > in the right direction? Are there any cautionary comments with shell tools as > powerful as awk? What are '.po' files? Shell tools tend to have a narrower focus than awk but each is very powerful in what it does. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[Sophisticated Searches]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

I would like to extract specific information from lines in log files and perform math functions on them. Grep is ok for getting the lines I want and putting them where I want them. But I've reached a limit in what I can do because I lack the education. Two things I need to learn: 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in Ethereal. 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after doin $ummath on $omefield. I've been looking at man pages and am thinking awk sort uniq ... am I looking in the right direction? Are there any cautionary comments with shell tools as powerful as awk? What are '.po' files? Thanks, farmer6re9 -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 06:46, James Knott wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > > I would just like to say, after 3 days of suffering with a temp of 105 > > and 0 hours of sleep, anyone else who got this flu bug goin' around, you > > have my *deepest* sympathies. > > > > I'm just thankful I got it before Christmas. > > Maybe next year, you'll get a flu shot. Maybe next year they'll put the correct strain in the shot and have enough to go around...not that I ever get one myself. -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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