August 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

6.2 vs. 7.3
by aitken-BwLjziHGQLusTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

I have an acer p166 (64 MB RAM, awe32 sound card, trio s3 virge video card) which my daughter has been using for WordPerfect 8, MSN (gaim), music CDs and Internet. It had RH 7.3 and ran a little slow. I upgraded it to 8.0 to see just how slow it would run - and, ya, it was *too* slow. I think the hardware is better suited to RH 6.2. That went on easily and everything seems a little faster. However, I can see I'll have to a lot of mucking around - no gaim, so I'll have to find something else that will run MSN, it liked my sound card but then announced that I'll have to compile sound support into the kernel, printing already gave me a little trouble. Problem is is that this is not a test/learning machine - this is my daughter's machine. I don't want to tell her she has to be off it for days and days while I learn about makefile, compiling the kernel (for the first time), etc. So, my question is: Is Rh 6.2 going to so much faster on this machine that's it's going to be worth my daughter being without a computer for a month while I try to get it to do what 7.3 will do right out of the box? Please, spare the other hundreds of people on the list, the "Gee, Chris, I know the answer to your problem - it's called Windows - embrace the Beaast." comments - or at least send it offline - thanks. Chris -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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bash history
by lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ＠public.gmane.org 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

Hi, >From time to time I wonder how 'history' works, and what is the mechanism for the many bash sessions making it into '.bash_history'? Today, I was reminded of my previous wondering as 'history' corrupted my session's display -- 'reset' resolved. I find the most useful history related command to be: [Ctrl]+r :: reverse incremental search I just now found HISTIGNORE. I am aware of bash-completion. It seems that one could do a lot more with this thinking. Any smart history search/modification tools out there? Cheers, Lloyd -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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man window of text to terminal
by lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ＠public.gmane.org 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 15:50, Tim Writer wrote: > Lloyd D Budd <lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ at public.gmane.org> writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > Is there an easy way (ctrl-<n>) to have the displayed "window" of 'man' > > to be dumped to the terminal. > > > > eg. > > $ man man > > [ctrl+d] > > [ctrl+d] > > [snip] > > I'm not sure that I understand the question. Does one of these do what you > want? > > man -P cat man > man -P 'col -b' man Hi Tim, That works well thanks! I am selfish. Ideally, I only want the displayed piece of the man entry present in the window... ie when I scroll up, I would peruse less info. Cheers, Lloyd -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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man window of text to terminal
by tim-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

Lloyd D Budd <lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ at public.gmane.org> writes: > Hi all, > > Is there an easy way (ctrl-<n>) to have the displayed "window" of 'man' > to be dumped to the terminal. > > eg. > $ man man > [ctrl+d] > [ctrl+d] [snip] I'm not sure that I understand the question. Does one of these do what you want? man -P cat man man -P 'col -b' man -- tim writer <tim-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. tollfree: 1-87-pro-linux thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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man window of text to terminal
by kcozens-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

On 2003.08.18 04:48 Lloyd D Budd wrote: > Is there an easy way (ctrl-<n>) to have the displayed "window" of > 'man' > to be dumped to the terminal. How about 'nroff -man man <path to file to show>'? -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
by adb-tlug-AbAJl/g/NLXk1uMJSBkQmQ＠public.gmane.org 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

(a book by Cory Doctorow) 1. The story opens in the GSU pub, a venue well-known to TLUGgers. 2. You can download copies from http://www.craphound.com/down/ and TLUGgers aren't likely to turn down something free. Disclaimers include the fact that I haven't read past the first few paragraphs myself, but it looks like being a good story. -- Anthony de Boer -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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recent CERT advisory
by kmastin-PzQIwG9Jn9VAFePFGvp55w＠public.gmane.org 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

Has anyone else here seen this? Might be a good time to check your software logs, see if anything might be affected. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- CERT Advisory CA-2003-21 GNU Project FTP Server Compromise Original issue date: August 13, 2003 Last revised: -- Source: CERT/CC A complete revision history is at the end of this file. Overview The CERT/CC has received a report that the system housing the primary FTP servers for the GNU software project was compromised. I. Description The GNU Project, principally sponsored by the Free Software Foundation (FSF), produces a variety of freely available software. The CERT/CC has learned that the system housing the primary FTP servers for the GNU software project, gnuftp.gnu.org, was root compromised by an intruder. The more common host names of ftp.gnu.org and alpha.gnu.org are aliases for the same compromised system. The compromise is reported to have occurred in March of 2003. The FSF has released an announcement describing the incident. Because this system serves as a centralized archive of popular software, the insertion of malicious code into the distributed software is a serious threat. As the above announcement indicates, however, no source code distributions are believed to have been maliciously modified at this time. II. Impact The potential exists for an intruder to have inserted back doors, Trojan horses, or other malicious code into the source code distributions of software housed on the compromised system. III. Solution We encourage sites using the GNU software obtained from the compromised system to verify the integrity of their distribution. Sites that mirror the source code are encouraged to verify the integrity of their sources. We also encourage users to inspect any and all other software that may have been downloaded from the compromised site. Note that it is not always sufficient to rely on the timestamps or file sizes when trying to determine whether or not a copy of the file has been modified. Verifying checksums The FSF has produced PGP-signed lists of known-good MD5 hashes of the software packages housed on the compromised server. These lists can be found at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/before-2003-08-01.md5sums.asc ftp://alpha.gnu.org/before-2003-08-01.md5sums.asc Note that both of these files and the announcement above are signed by Bradley Kuhn, Executive Director of the FSF, with the following PGP key: pub 1024D/DB41B387 1999-12-09 Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn-dGWS0fDw8IM at public.gmane.org> Key fingerprint = 4F40 645E 46BE 0131 48F9 92F6 E775 E324 DB41 B387 uid Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn99) <bkuhn-jxV+0yBGQ14 at public.gmane.org> uid Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn-mXXj517/zsQ at public.gmane.org> sub 2048g/75CA9CB3 1999-12-09 The CERT/CC believes this key to be valid. As a matter of good security practice, the CERT/CC encourages users to verify, whenever possible, the integrity of downloaded software. For more information, see IN-2001-06. Appendix A. - Vendor Information This appendix contains information provided by vendors for this advisory. As vendors report new information to the CERT/CC, we will update this section and note the changes in our revision history. If a particular vendor is not listed below, we have not received their comments. Free Software Foundation The current files on alpha.gnu.org and ftp.gnu.org as of 2003-08-02 have all been verified, and their md5sums and the reasons we believe the md5sums can be trusted are in: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/before-2003-08-01.md5sums.asc ftp://alpha.gnu.org/before-2003-08-01.md5sums.asc We are updating that file and the site as we confirm good md5sums of additional files. It is theoretically possible that downloads between March 2003 and July 2003 might have been source-compromised, so we encourage everyone to re-download sources and compare with the current copies for files on the site. Appendix B. References * FSF announcement regarding the incident - ftp://ftp.gnu.org/MISSING-FILES.README * CERT Incident Note IN-2001-06 - http://www.cert.org/incident_notes/IN-2001-06.html _________________________________________________________________ The CERT/CC thanks Bradley Kuhn and Brett Smith of the Free Software Foundation for their timely assistance in this matter. _________________________________________________________________ Feedback can be directed to the author: Chad Dougherty. ______________________________________________________________________ This document is available from: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-21.html ______________________________________________________________________ CERT/CC Contact Information Email: cert-etTNj8cnB6w at public.gmane.org Phone: +1 412-268-7090 (24-hour hotline) Fax: +1 412-268-6989 Postal address: CERT Coordination Center Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890 U.S.A. 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Carnegie Mellon University does not make any warranty of any kind with respect to freedom from patent, trademark, or copyright infringement. ______________________________________________________________________ Conditions for use, disclaimers, and sponsorship information Copyright 2002 Carnegie Mellon University. Revision History August 13, 2003: Initial release -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBPzqwFWjtSoHZUTs5AQGN4AQAvL/u+S+FpkNWtBH/fe9DCLJQM21I/dzt QPU0prMxTq53ntvTOAth+yFPtbcbeDaWuLHakju0mL4OSU0Fp+VsXbXnF5ypE+0r S5mHpMxSmvPBPBNTIMQUGybEKK783P9Ty2lhXxawEW9JbdgMOY44clo2VIupgxuZ OeyQrFbsq54= =/72G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Last chance for Tech TV interview
by mggagne-oUREY1nl/XXQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

Hello everyone, Please forgive this momentary brag and gratuitous self-promotion, but given that it is somewhat about Linux, I thought some of you might be interested <insert appropriate smiley here>. As some of you already know, I was down at LinuxWorld Expo in San Francisco launching my new book (among other things). While there, I was also interviewed on Tech TV's "The Screen Savers" where they wanted me to chat about "Moving to Linux" (both the idea and the book). The interview was originally aired on Monday night's show, but it is going to be on one last time this Sunday at 11:00 am (EST). If you don't get Tech TV, you can watch the interview online as well (albeit in a slightly lower quality format). Just click on the following link, look for "Video Highlights" and click "Move to Linux". http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/linux/story/0,24330,3495009,00.html When my new book was launched at LinuxWorld, I also did a short radio interview which is also available online. It's in MP3 format and you can find it at the following address. http://www.sys-con.com/linux/linuxworldradio/marcel.mp3 Thanks for letting me brag <insert appropriate smiley here>). Do take care out there. -- Marcel (Writer and Free Thinker at Large) Gagn? Note: This massagee wos nat speel or gramer-checkered. Mandatory home page reference - http://www.marcelgagne.com/ Author : "Moving to Linux: Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye!" Also by Marcel : Linux System Administration, A User's Guide Join the WFTL-LUG : http://www.salmar.com/marcel/wftllugform.html -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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GTA-BUG/TLUG meeting time conflict?
by billt-l+PWtdWbHAuXFJAUJl40Xg＠public.gmane.org 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

To start off with, I have never been to GTA-BUG and don't know the format of the meeting, so I don't know how easily it would be to change there meeting. As for moving TLUG it could be done, but not necessarily quickly. We have arranged meeting rooms, at U of T for nearly 5 years now based on our predictable schedule. To change schedules, will make getting a room more difficult. Also, I believe there is politics, involved that I am unaware of, nor care too know. Bill Thanis On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 10:02:09AM -0400, Adam J Tworkowski wrote: > Hey, > > I was at the TLUG meeting last night (my second one) and there were a few of > us who expressed interest in attending both TLUG and GTA-BUG but there is an > obvious scheduling conflict. What's up with this? There are 28-31 > days/month -- surely this conflict can be resolved. > > Regards, > > Adam > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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/etc/hosts
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

On Thursday 14 August 2003 14:00, Max Blanco wrote: > I wonder what will be the effect if I have two entries in the /etc/hosts > file for the same machine? > > 192.168.1.9 johannes johaness.blanco.org > 192.168.1.9 geeklog geeklog.net > > Is this kosher? If it works, it works but it would probably be more correct (according to my reading of the manpage) to do thsi: 192.168.1.9 johaness.blanco.org johannes geeklog geeklog.net That is this: IP CANONICAL_NAME ALIASES Regards -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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