December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

[SPAM] a test for spam
by mcoburn-hJeZYcpktVksA/PxXw9srA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

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A couple of questions (win rsync does exist!)
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> I don't think 'rsync' is available on Windows. You can go the other > way, though, ie. backup Windows to Linux. Having retweaked my setup I've started backing up everything in the house lately, and with my boxen either linux or bsd, rsync gets used. My wife just finalized her move from windows to mac (OS X), but the need existed to back up both machines. How I feared that I'd have to go without rsync! But that wasn't the case. Found gui rsync programs for both platforms, though I can't remember their names right now. I suspect 'winrsync' or 'windows rsync' were the search strings I used. The OS X software was right off Apple's site and was just a layer on top of a port of rsync methinks. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:29, Chris Aitken wrote: > > Tick the box that says 'leave messages on server' in Nestcape > > email options (also delete deleted mail on server if you have it). Then > > you can access the same mail from as many clients as you like (with the > > same settings as shown above). > > Interesting that it took a while for someone to suggest the lowest tech > solution of all! Not that I'm complaining, as I think procmail, fetchmail > et al are in my very near future. : ) There's a reason it wasn't suggested before, see the problems that you are having ... > I was doing what you suggested > but, for a reason unbeknownst to me, one machine is not playing nice > in the sandbox: Even though I have the setting you suggest (along with > 'when > deleting a message locally, remove it from the server') the mail does stay > on > the server, but the same mail keeps loading over and over. So, I get -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Robert Brockway wrote: >I can't think of any IMAP servers that are closely tied to an MDA. For example, UW-IMAP support a mailbox format "mbx" <http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/#4.5>. To allow MTA to deliver mail into that format, there are MDAs such as dmail and tmail created specifically to do the delivering. These tools are part of mail-util package <http://www.cygwin.com/packages/uw-imap-util/>. >One of the great things about email is that it is so easy to mix & match >different receipt (MTA), delivery (MDA) and pickup methods (MUA or IMAP >or POP3). Well, since both MDA and IMAP server both access the mailbox, the format of mailbox chosen will dictate what MDA and IMAP server can chosen. -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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hard drive wanted
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

> I am looking for a small harddrive, maybe around 2+ gigs, for linux test > installs. My current drive has been giving me problems, so i'm throwing > it in the trash:) If anyone happens to have one, please let me know what > you want for it, and maybe we can make a deal. I have a bunch in ~2GB and ~4GB, but SCSI only I'm afraid. However, having gone through my stash and reorganized I found I have more SCSI controllers than I thought. I'd have no problem throwing one in but you're probably looking at only 10MB/s xfer rate. 2940AU I believe. If anyone else out there needs a drive the offer's open for that too, but minus a controller since I need to hang on to the rest. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > turn related closely to the choice of IMAP server. In fact I think some > IMAP servers have MDA specifically made for them. I can't think of any IMAP servers that are closely tied to an MDA. Remember, the MDA is part of mail delivery while IMAP relates to mail pickup. They are quite distinct (but complementary) tasks. One of the great things about email is that it is so easy to mix & match different receipt (MTA), delivery (MDA) and pickup methods (MUA or IMAP or POP3). Ok, so I'm mixing protocol & non-protocol acronyms there but I hope it is clear what I'm saying. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A couple of questions
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:46:56PM -0500, William Park wrote: > I don't think 'rsync' is available on Windows. You can go the other > way, though, ie. backup Windows to Linux. cygwin if nothing else is. There may even be rsync with native windows support. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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In the Beginning was the Command Line
by lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0500, JoeHill wrote: > Your "humble opinion" is in fact backed up by some pretty big guns. Read > anything from Adam Smith, all the way up to giants like Keynes or Galbraith, and > you will find that you are on some pretty solid ground there. > > The problem really isn't that Capitalism is a totally free market, as you seem > to be hinting at, it's that it is in fact *not* a free market. It concentrates > power around those who *have* capital, and therefore works against the free flow > of trade, and also against innovation. Once a corporation has obtained a > position of power, there is very little incentive to compete or innovate, more > to keep pushing the same obsolete product at higher and higher profit. > > This is what has allowed Microsoft, a business doing what anyone would expect a > business to do in a Capitalist environment, to use the power of concentrated > wealth to make it more difficult for others to compete, so as to further enrich > their shareholders and other beneficiaries. > > Of course, having the State take over the reigns of the economy is no better, as > Galbraith's famous quote humourously implies: > > "In Capitalism, man exploits man. In Communism it is exactly the opposite." > > Money is not the root of all evil, it's the way we *use* money that is so > harmful. Someone on this list, a ways back, pointed out that there are far more > viable economic models insofar as trade and commerce, one of which, IIRC, was > based on the idea that money does not increase in value over time > (incentive to hoard, stagnate), but actually loses value over time (incentive to > spend, build, expand). I wonder what some south american countries would think of your idea. I don't think their devaluation of money has helped their economy at all. Incentive to spend rather than horde may be an OK idea, but money that looses value isn't necesarily such a good thing, although I guess at the moment basic interest rate isn't doing much better than inflation. Of course encouraging people to spend money they don't have is a really bad idea and I think that too happens sometimes when spending is encouraged too much. Lennart Sorensen -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A couple of questions
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:21:35AM -0500, Sidney Shapiro wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a client thinking of setting up a mail server in his office, as > well as a backup system. I set up something similar to this for another > client using RH, and a lot of help. His hosting is currently with Blue > Genesis, and his in office internet connection is through Sympatico. > Since he does not have a static IP, would it be difficult to set up a > mail server for him? I figure if I change the zone file for mail to a > dynamic DNS program on the server, he will be able to use pop/smtp > connects through the server. Usually, hosting company also provide email with the domain. Having DNS on his server which is on dynamic IP won't do much for outsider trying to send mail to his server. > How would that work since the domain and the mail are going to > different places? Also, as far as backup goes, can I do an rsync to a > whole bunch of Windows machines (XP, NT, 2000, 98, 95, ME) and then do > comparative backups at intervals? I don't think 'rsync' is available on Windows. You can go the other way, though, ie. backup Windows to Linux. -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Fraser Campbell wrote: >It's typically used to refer to the process that takes care of writing >your email to your mailbox (i.e. /var/spool/mail/$user or >$HOME/Maildir/). I stand corrected. So MDA is the part sometime called "local delivery agent", right? This will depend on the choice of mailbox format, and in turn related closely to the choice of IMAP server. In fact I think some IMAP servers have MDA specifically made for them. -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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