December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

spinning out of control :)
by emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:33PM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote: > I might be able to help you, given that it is an emergency. May I > suggest thought that for today you are probably okay if the noise just > started. That usually happens when the sleeve bearing splits and spins > the oil out. The fan will keep spinning for at least a couple of weeks > (usuallY). At the very least, as I said, today should be fine, if loud. I've tried to add a little DW-40 to the mix, and have thrown /several/ explitives in the general direction of Acer. I can't get the laptop apart to see what the actual problem is though. > You will want to get it fixed ASAP though because it will sieze shortly. Agreed. I'm worried that it's going to sieze completely, but I also have work that /must/ get done. :/ I'm sure everyone knows that drill! I have an Acer TM 630 (632? 634? I can't remember). In any case, it's out of warranty (and I wouldn't want to have to deal with Acer or the place I bought it from again anyway). I tried PCUsed but they won't deal with Acers (i.e. the tech had no idea how to get the case apart either). emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Hi, I might be able to help you, given that it is an emergency. May I suggest thought that for today you are probably okay if the noise just started. That usually happens when the sleeve bearing splits and spins the oil out. The fan will keep spinning for at least a couple of weeks (usuallY). At the very least, as I said, today should be fine, if loud. You will want to get it fixed ASAP though because it will sieze shortly. Part of the problem you are going to find is that the fan is likely a small 25mm x 5mm custome blower integrated right into the heat sink. If you can tell me the model of the laptop I can check to see if my used parts supplier has one in stock. Good luck! Madison > On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 10:58, emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org wrote: >> Does anyone know if one of the computer stores in the >> ghetto will be able >> to fix this /today/? I will not go to OTA. > > PCUsed fixes stuff, but probably not on Sundays. Maybe if you beg? > Maybe someone at Canada Computer would help you do it yourself though. > They're wizards, but usually REALLY busy. > > Austin > -- > Austin Acton > Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate > Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto > MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by aacton-B71PBEe7S7Y＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 10:58, emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org wrote: > Does anyone know if one of the computer stores in the > ghetto will be able > to fix this /today/? I will not go to OTA. PCUsed fixes stuff, but probably not on Sundays. Maybe if you beg? Maybe someone at Canada Computer would help you do it yourself though. They're wizards, but usually REALLY busy. Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Morning all, Here's my problem: my Acer laptop's fan is dying. It's making a horrible, horrible noise. There's a snow storm outside, and I have 90 assignments that must be marked today...on-line (of course). Does anyone know if one of the computer stores in the ghetto will be able to fix this /today/? I will not go to OTA. Maybe Sonam? Help would be much appreciated (otherwise I'm TTCing up to Humber College to mark them at school). Dying Acer laptop fan From: "Emma Jane Hogbin" <emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org> To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Reply-To: emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Morning all, Here's my problem: my Acer laptop's fan is dying. It's making a horrible, horrible noise. There's a snow storm outside, and I have 90 assignments that must be marked today...on-line (of course). Does anyone know if one of the computer stores in the ghetto will be able to fix this /today/? I will not go to OTA, and I know that Sonnam is closed. I'm out Parkdale way, but am willing to travel to get this fixed. Help would be much appreciated (otherwise I'm TTCing up to Humber College to mark them at school). emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin Xtrinsic -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[sumthin]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sunday 14 December 2003 06:45, JoeHill wrote: > > Well, since they're lookin' for nothin', and, quelle surprise, gettin' > sumthin', why not make it fun (for you)? > > I know there's a rewrite rule out there somewhere for Code Red that crashes > the offending host. I'm not suggesting you violate the *law* or anything, > but if you were to put an index.php that contained code which, say, > displayed their IP, the name of their ISP, what OS they were running, etc. > and a quick little missive about the possible time they might be spending > in jail with Bruno the assmaster, it might put the fear o' $DEITY into some > little 15 year old punk. > > You would want to make sure the PHP code is safe, of course, since it's > running on *your server*, and if you are going to do some experimentation > with this stuff, make damned sure Apache is running inside a nice safe > jail, so you don't end up with egg on your face. I believe what you want to > look at there is called "chroot". > > I'm sure there are many on this list who can provide more specific stuff, > I'm just throwing out ideas ;-) I don't even let my NWN Druid use TAUNT, I certainly don't want Apache dancing around in full headress. I'm not that Brave.. The nsiislog is in fact a LOG. The file IS relavent. THAT is my reasoning. One thing is for sure with regards to an index in /sumthin/, they will not get a 404. They will get a directory listing if I chose, but It all depends on relavence. I can't say for sure who or what GET's /sumthin/, but I believe it is a mode that caught-on through the years and was adopted by different folks. I highly doubt I would be the first in history to create that directory, and I haven't yet. BUT, If it's banners ye seek, banners ye GET. -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[sumthin]
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:15:04 -0500 GDHough <mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ at public.gmane.org> wrote: > So what harm can there be in setting an index.html inside /sumthin/? ;-) > > I get far fewer requests for /sumthin/ than anything else I currently play > with. I would like to explore the ramifications of utilizing this > particularly regular request. I just wanted to see if there was sumthin to it > before I create the index and special links. Well, since they're lookin' for nothin', and, quelle surprise, gettin' sumthin', why not make it fun (for you)? I know there's a rewrite rule out there somewhere for Code Red that crashes the offending host. I'm not suggesting you violate the *law* or anything, but if you were to put an index.php that contained code which, say, displayed their IP, the name of their ISP, what OS they were running, etc. and a quick little missive about the possible time they might be spending in jail with Bruno the assmaster, it might put the fear o' $DEITY into some little 15 year old punk. You would want to make sure the PHP code is safe, of course, since it's running on *your server*, and if you are going to do some experimentation with this stuff, make damned sure Apache is running inside a nice safe jail, so you don't end up with egg on your face. I believe what you want to look at there is called "chroot". I'm sure there are many on this list who can provide more specific stuff, I'm just throwing out ideas ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Behind every great fortune is a crime." -- Balzac -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; application installallation Nirvana ?
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:43:47 -0500 David J Patrick <davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> wrote: > Does this not look like THE most brilliant approach to software > availability ? This is actually one way that the ROX desktop can be installed. Thomas Leonard, the developer, has been using this system for months now. From what I see on the ROX lists, it's very popular. Don't have to worry about this dependency or that library, it's all on the network. Never tried it m'self...strange combo...anarchist control freak ;-) -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third."-- Timothy Leary -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[sumthin]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Friday 12 December 2003 07:29, JoeHill wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:21:15 -0500 > > GDHough <mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Jan 19 will be my Apache's one year birthday. In that time I've learned > > much about running a webserver on Linux. One thing I've seen many times > > over are GET's for /sumthin/. I don't GET it? Why /sumthin/ and not just > > /? Is this a way to grab banners, 404's? > > > > Does anyone ever put something in /sumthin/? > I wanted to see what would happen if I honored requests for some of the winserver exploits. One example is I created the text file /scripts/nsiislog.dll. The text in the file is actually a record of all GET /scripts/nsiislog.dll requests. Once a week I grep | cat >> to this file. I learned that most tools (worms) scanning for this file limit the bytes to 12960-13068. I deduce that those who accepted the entire file were scanning manually with a user enabled keyboard. So what harm can there be in setting an index.html inside /sumthin/? ;-) I get far fewer requests for /sumthin/ than anything else I currently play with. I would like to explore the ramifications of utilizing this particularly regular request. I just wanted to see if there was sumthin to it before I create the index and special links. Thanks, farmer6re9 > I was curious myself, so I did a little google.ca/linux and lo and behold: > > "This looks to be a banner grabbing attempt on your webservers. Alot of > scanners/worms will do this in an attempt to find out what type of web > server you are running and compare it against a list of vulnerable servers > for some particular exploit. The `"/sumthin" is placed within the GET > command to trigger a 404 error, which in turn reveals valuable information > about your server back the requestor. If the information returned by your > server is useful to the scanner/worm you may see other exploits in the near > future targeted towards your box." -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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OT: keyboard layouts
by taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ＠public.gmane.org 13 Dec '03

13 Dec '03

On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:57:47PM -0500, Henry Spencer wrote: > > Indeed, I see that point. Given that Maltron uses the basic qwerty > > letter layout... > > Uh, come again? It most certainly doesn't. The home row, for example, > is ANISF DTHOR, with E on the left thumb and space on the right thumb. OH. You see, the picture that you linked to was of a Maltron-qwerty hybrid, so I assumed that it was the physical thing only. Wrong picture, and a poor assumption. :) > Why would you bother? Use the Maltron shape with the Maltron layout. Indeed, I wholeheartedly agree (now that I have it straight). :) > Correct, but that's backwards from what I was suggesting, which is > adapting the Maltron layout to the standard physical shape. I'm not sure > it is reasonably possible, mind you, because of the thumb problem. Yeah, it's all the fault of that fat-ass spacebar... > True, but so what? The human issue is a large one, actually a bigger > barrier than a hardware issue would be. This tends to depend who you talk to. For a large organisation the people-training costs do tend to outstrip the cost of new keyboards. To the hobbyist, though, the time spent learning something is more than half the fun, and hardware costs real money. > Basically, because the Qwerty layout is not a bad one (for an electronic > keyboard -- some of its problems, like the assignment of A and the shifts > to the little fingers, loom larger on manual typewriters), and the > improvements to be had by rearranging it simply aren't huge. I wonder if any proper studies have been done regarding the incidence of RSS relative to use of the different layouts. From the sounds of it the Maltron would be the culmination of such research. Too bad it's not more publicised. The ergonomics of the chair, desk, and monitor probably play a much larger role anyway for most people, and are really easy to fix. I'm glad we got that all sorted out. :) -- taa /*eof*/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; application installallation Nirvana ?
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 13 Dec '03

13 Dec '03

Tom Legrady wrote: > It's either brilliant or there's something missing. > > I like the implications for an xterm-type machine. Have some important > things happen on a central server, mundane stuff can run on the > terminal, software which is used gets cached locally. > > David J Patrick wrote: > >> I just followed an osnews.com story and discovered ZeroInstall >> (http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/) >> I'm /floored/ by the implications. >> Does this not look like THE most brilliant approach to software >> availability ? >> ..or do I need more sleep ? >> djp >> Use a server for the core stuff, sure, but why limit it ? A network filesystem might negate the need to even think about software installation, or versions. The logical extension (a fully cached-on-demand OS) with a decent network connection and any old local, bootable media (USB key, CDR) might make Knoppix look old fasioned! -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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