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ZeroInstall; application installallation Nirvana ?
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:16:36 -0500 David J Patrick <davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> wrote: > Try it Joe, try it ! > Rox rocks ! and ZeroInstall looks easy as pie. I already use ROX...no need for installing again :-) Best file manager on the planet, that's for sure though. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man."-- Declaration of the Rights of Man -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; application installallation Nirvana ?
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

JoeHill wrote: >On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:43:47 -0500 >David J Patrick <davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > >>Does this not look like THE most brilliant approach to software >>availability ? >> >> > >This is actually one way that the ROX desktop can be installed. Thomas Leonard, >the developer, has been using this system for months now. From what I see on the >ROX lists, it's very popular. Don't have to worry about this dependency or that >library, it's all on the network. > >Never tried it m'self...strange combo...anarchist control freak ;-) > > > Try it Joe, try it ! Rox rocks ! and ZeroInstall looks easy as pie. and let me know if it kicks proverbial ass. or what. i'm too skairt ta try. djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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spinning out of control :)
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Sure. I will be downtown al day tomorrow so if you would like to hook up e-mail me either here on the list or on my proper e-mail: mkelly at alteve dot com. Madison Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:17:59PM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote: > >>Be very careful trying to take it apart. There are a lot of little bits >>with wires connected to them that can be torn easily (ie: the cable to the >>touchpad is a usual issue). Unfortunately it is too late today to call for >>parts so I will have to call tomorrow (which I will). Once I locate a fan >>it would be a pretty easy job to swap out. > > > I've given up trying for tonight. I'm trying to ignore the dull roar and > the tingling in my fingers from resting my hands on the keyboard--bad form > comes back to bite me in the tinglies. :) > > Thanks so much for your help! Let me know how you fare tomorrow with > finding a new fan. > > emma :) -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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lilo -v -t says nothing?
by nastos-JAjqph6Yjy8fbXvGcxQkLSwD8/FfD2ys＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On December 14, 2003 07:50 pm, Alan Cohen wrote: > > up2date downloaded a new kernel and now (when I want to test it) > /sbin/lilo -v -t says little or nothing! Can you show us the output of $] ls /boot and can you tell us what distribution you are using (I assume some form of redhat since you are using up2date). It was my understanding that up2date properly instals the kernel, and runs /sbin/lilo for you, andif that fails then it tells you... but I may be mistaken. > /etc/lilo.conf ------------------------------------------------ > prompt > timeout=50 > ##default=linux > default=2.4.20-20.9 > boot=/dev/md0 > map=/boot/map > install=/boot/boot.b > message=/boot/message > linear > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-24.9 > ### label=linux > label=2.4.20-24.9 > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-24.9.img > read-only > root=/dev/md1 > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 > label=2.4.20-20.9 > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img > read-only > root=/dev/md1 > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-6 > label=2.4.20-20.6 > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-6.img > read-only > root=/dev/md1 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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lilo -v -t says nothing?
by alan-QVObF66B6qeOg/Yh5kgvkFaTQe2KTcn/＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Hello all Can anyone comment? up2date downloaded a new kernel and now (when I want to test it) /sbin/lilo -v -t says little or nothing! /etc/lilo.conf ------------------------------------------------ prompt timeout=50 ##default=linux default=2.4.20-20.9 boot=/dev/md0 map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message linear image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-24.9 ### label=linux label=2.4.20-24.9 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-24.9.img read-only root=/dev/md1 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 label=2.4.20-20.9 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img read-only root=/dev/md1 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-6 label=2.4.20-20.6 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-6.img read-only root=/dev/md1 -- -------------------------------------- Please do not respond in HTML Alan Cohen alan-QVObF66B6qeOg/Yh5kgvkFaTQe2KTcn/(a)public.gmane.org voice: 416-783-9826 fax: 240-269-7457 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Exchange replacement, again...
by dgenn-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

I think you may be referring to Bynari insight server (which is not GPL'd) or Opengroupware http://OpenGroupware.org. Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org [mailto:owner-tlug at ss.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Cozens Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 6:00 PM To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Exchange replacement, again... At 04:12 PM 12/13/2003 -0500, cbbrowne wrote: > > A Linux-based replacement for Exchange has been done. It was > > described in an issue of Linux Journal within the past year. I don't > > remember the specific issue off-hand. The article explains what was > > done and may have links to what you need to set it up. > >The project site is thus: > <http://kroupware.org> I don't think this is the same thing. I was talking about what I believed was a software solution that replaced Exchange while maintaining compatibility at the client end. In other words, the MS based server is replaced with a Linux box but the client side of things doesn't need to change. Here is a link to an LJ article with one solution: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5659 If I think about it later, I will try and track down the LJ article I'm thinking of. It was one of their Features(?) on how a company replaced an Exchange server and how they went about doing it. P.S. Aha! I did a further search on the LJ site and found the article I was trying to recall. The article was from issue 106 and was titled "Understanding and Replacing Microsoft Exchange". The URL to information about said article is here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6368 Cheers! Kevin. (http://www.interlog.com/~kcozens/) Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |"What are we going to do today, Borg?" E-mail:kcozens at interlog dot com|"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: Packet:ve3syb-XXPEJ3/fxIc at public.gmane.org#con.on.ca.na| Try to assimilate the world!" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | -Pinkutus & the Borg -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Exchange replacement, again...
by kcozens-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

At 04:12 PM 12/13/2003 -0500, cbbrowne wrote: > > A Linux-based replacement for Exchange has been done. It was described in > > an issue of Linux Journal within the past year. I don't remember the > > specific issue off-hand. The article explains what was done and may have > > links to what you need to set it up. > >The project site is thus: > <http://kroupware.org> I don't think this is the same thing. I was talking about what I believed was a software solution that replaced Exchange while maintaining compatibility at the client end. In other words, the MS based server is replaced with a Linux box but the client side of things doesn't need to change. Here is a link to an LJ article with one solution: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5659 If I think about it later, I will try and track down the LJ article I'm thinking of. It was one of their Features(?) on how a company replaced an Exchange server and how they went about doing it. P.S. Aha! I did a further search on the LJ site and found the article I was trying to recall. The article was from issue 106 and was titled "Understanding and Replacing Microsoft Exchange". The URL to information about said article is here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6368 Cheers! Kevin. (http://www.interlog.com/~kcozens/) Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |"What are we going to do today, Borg?" E-mail:kcozens at interlog dot com|"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: Packet:ve3syb-XXPEJ3/fxIc at public.gmane.org#con.on.ca.na| Try to assimilate the world!" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | -Pinkutus & the Borg -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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spinning out of control :)
by emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:17:59PM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote: > Be very careful trying to take it apart. There are a lot of little bits > with wires connected to them that can be torn easily (ie: the cable to the > touchpad is a usual issue). Unfortunately it is too late today to call for > parts so I will have to call tomorrow (which I will). Once I locate a fan > it would be a pretty easy job to swap out. I've given up trying for tonight. I'm trying to ignore the dull roar and the tingling in my fingers from resting my hands on the keyboard--bad form comes back to bite me in the tinglies. :) Thanks so much for your help! Let me know how you fare tomorrow with finding a new fan. emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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spinning out of control :)
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

I meant to tell you that if it gets worse call me at 416-208-0146. I will be home around 6:00pm. Madison > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:33PM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote: >> I might be able to help you, given that it is an emergency. May I >> suggest thought that for today you are probably okay if the noise just >> started. That usually happens when the sleeve bearing splits and spins >> the oil out. The fan will keep spinning for at least a couple of weeks >> (usuallY). At the very least, as I said, today should be fine, if loud. > > I've tried to add a little DW-40 to the mix, and have thrown /several/ > explitives in the general direction of Acer. I can't get the laptop apart > to see what the actual problem is though. > >> You will want to get it fixed ASAP though because it will sieze >> shortly. > > Agreed. I'm worried that it's going to sieze completely, but I also have > work that /must/ get done. :/ I'm sure everyone knows that drill! > > I have an Acer TM 630 (632? 634? I can't remember). In any case, it's out > of warranty (and I wouldn't want to have to deal with Acer or the place I > bought it from again anyway). > > I tried PCUsed but they won't deal with Acers (i.e. the tech had no idea > how to get the case apart either). > > emma > > -- > Emma Jane Hogbin > [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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spinning out of control :)
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Be very careful trying to take it apart. There are a lot of little bits with wires connected to them that can be torn easily (ie: the cable to the touchpad is a usual issue). Unfortunately it is too late today to call for parts so I will have to call tomorrow (which I will). Once I locate a fan it would be a pretty easy job to swap out. Madison > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:33PM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote: >> I might be able to help you, given that it is an emergency. May I >> suggest thought that for today you are probably okay if the noise just >> started. That usually happens when the sleeve bearing splits and spins >> the oil out. The fan will keep spinning for at least a couple of weeks >> (usuallY). At the very least, as I said, today should be fine, if loud. > > I've tried to add a little DW-40 to the mix, and have thrown /several/ > explitives in the general direction of Acer. I can't get the laptop apart > to see what the actual problem is though. > >> You will want to get it fixed ASAP though because it will sieze >> shortly. > > Agreed. I'm worried that it's going to sieze completely, but I also have > work that /must/ get done. :/ I'm sure everyone knows that drill! > > I have an Acer TM 630 (632? 634? I can't remember). In any case, it's out > of warranty (and I wouldn't want to have to deal with Acer or the place I > bought it from again anyway). > > I tried PCUsed but they won't deal with Acers (i.e. the tech had no idea > how to get the case apart either). > > emma > > -- > Emma Jane Hogbin > [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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