December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

Waaaay offtopic
by jay-ZPnsNkHkFjk＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Yep, I had it too, try studying for a final in biochemistry with it.. pure torture! > > I would just like to say, after 3 days of suffering with a temp of 105 and > 0 > hours of sleep, anyone else who got this flu bug goin' around, you have my > *deepest* sympathies. > > I'm just thankful I got it before Christmas. > > -- > JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 > Registered Linux user #282046 > Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, > decreased > short-term memory, and I forget the third."-- Timothy Leary > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 10:55, David J Patrick wrote: > >It's only test9 but close enough IMO, I've been running the test kernels > > since test2, no problems. They'll likely have 2.6.0 out quickly so if > > you want to wait just keep an eye on their package list > >(http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/) > > > Good to obtain the image, but I would still have to compile it, no ? No that is the compiled kernel, dependencies such as the new module-init-tools will be automatically installed along with it and init scripts modified appropriately so that the 2.4 or 2.6 version of modprobe will get called depending on the kernel you are running. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Fraser Campbell wrote: >On Thursday 18 December 2003 10:06, David J Patrick wrote: > > > >> *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel >>unless some body out there has a better guide >> >> > >How about this? Add the following line to /etc/apt/source.list: > > deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody /kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-i386/ > >Then: > > apt-get update && apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-i386 > >It's only test9 but close enough IMO, I've been running the test kernels since >test2, no problems. They'll likely have 2.6.0 out quickly so if you want to >wait just keep an eye on their package list >(http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/) > > > Good to obtain the image, but I would still have to compile it, no ? -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: >David J Patrick said: > > >> I'll be following (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949) >> *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel >> >> > >That one's good....but if you're already running a properly configured >kernel, why not just use "make oldconfig"? This allows you to use your >current config file as a base for your new system. It'll run you through >all the changes in the new kernel (and give you a suggested default). > > Actually, my existing kernel config is quite botched; modules I don't want/ need, modules I want ( 0install ! ) and alsa broken. Y'see, I never really grokked modutils et al. A fresh setup is what I'm after, I'll just save this one as a backup. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Charly Baker wrote: > Apparantly flu virus detection and removal is similar to the problem of > detecting and removing real (computer) viruses. They change all the time, It many ways it is actually :) Computer virus detection s/w tends to look for specific signatures although s/w also exists which detects the general signature of viruses (in terms of activity, etc). Similarly an organisms defences against viruses are divided into "Specific" and "Non-specific" immune responses, representing the body's ability to react against known and unknown viruses, respectively. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 10:06, David J Patrick wrote: > *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel > unless some body out there has a better guide How about this? Add the following line to /etc/apt/source.list: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody /kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-i386/ Then: apt-get update && apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-i386 It's only test9 but close enough IMO, I've been running the test kernels since test2, no problems. They'll likely have 2.6.0 out quickly so if you want to wait just keep an eye on their package list (http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/) -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

David J Patrick said: > I'll be following (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949) > *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel That one's good....but if you're already running a properly configured kernel, why not just use "make oldconfig"? This allows you to use your current config file as a base for your new system. It'll run you through all the changes in the new kernel (and give you a suggested default). In terms of other resources, I like this one: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html Took me a while to understand everything that was in it (and it is exclusive to Debian). As it suggests up near the top--read the whole thing BEFORE you start compiling. There are steps near the end which are optional and should actually be done at the beginning. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin Xtrinsic -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Jason Shein wrote: > Linux 2.6.0 Kernel Released > > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.0 > > Finally it is official :) > > Let the compiling begin. > > Yahoo ! I'll be following (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949) *The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel unless some body out there has a better guide OR is capable of / wants to compile custom kernels remote via ssl WOW what a sservice that would be, eh ? djp * -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ZeroInstall; dare ya !
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Peter L. Peres wrote: >On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, William Park wrote: > > > >>But, how would you run Vim or LaTeX? You would have to dial out every >>time you turn your computer on, no? Is that like doing network install, >>every time? >> >> > >It's more like browsing with a proxy. After you browse for a day 90% of >the sites you want are in the proxy and you can disconnect and keep using >them. Then the remaining 10% will come in slowly, as you need it, when you >connect. When you have too many you purge the cache (selectively or not). >I like the idea but it practically requires broadband. > >Peter > > The difference there is that with web content, you want _todays_ news, but for applications, _this month_ is often OK. meaning that you only have to refresh the application cache when you intend to "upgrade". -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[TLUG] (remote) install fest
by taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:34:33AM -0500, William Park wrote: > Ah, I see where's the confusion. Once you mount NFS root, you have a > "normal" root tree. So, this is no different from your fully loaded > computer. How do you get the remote server to open XDM login prompt on > your screen. Essentially, you do 'X -query server', right? Yup! > With X-terminal, we automate this by modifying /etc/inittab. In > Slackware, run level 4 is XDM mode and it will run /etc/rc.d/rc.4. You > can edit that, or assign unused run level 5 for X-terminal purpose. You > can also trim NFS root tree, because once X is up, everything will be > run on the server. This is where Fraser's comment comes in. Yes, we can do the XDM bits in /etc/inittab on the mounted NFS filesystem and all... But why not use the LTSP packages for client kernel/BOOTP server/NFS configuration/server X configuration/maybe some specialised admin tools? That's all LTSP is: diskless NFS-rooted X terminals plus server in a pretty set of packages. :) -- taa "One measure of sanity is how closely one's internal representation of the world really resembles the world. By this measure humans are at least quite unsane." -- Ad Krzybsk /*eof*/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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