December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

[TLUG] (remote) install fest
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:58, William Park wrote: > > Incorrect. PXE is about getting a kernel loaded into memory, the same > > job and purpose as etherboot, netboot or romamatic. PXE facilitates > > LTSP it definitely does not obsolete it. > > Here we go again... After you boot and mount NFS root, you're looking > at the root tree that used to be local harddisk (except now it's > remote). You tell me why LTSP is necessary. My main point was that PXE doesn't obsolete LTSP, how you get a kernel to your diskless workstation is irrelevant to the system you're booting (be that LTSP or whatever you're suggesting).. It's quite possible that I misunderstand what your saying can be done. If you boot a diskless workstation from "bigserver" are you suggesting that bigserver's / filesystem should be mounted as / on diskless workstation? If so (correct me where I am wrong) you would have to modify countless items on the server's root filesystem to make it work correctly: - /etc would be shared ... do you write a pile of custom init scripts for handling things that need changing depending on whether / is being mounted locally or by nfs? - how do you handle writable dirs such as /tmp, /var/tmp and /var/log ... do you just let both diskless workstations and bigserver write to them as they see fit (sounds like a nightmare to me) Regardless of whether you're talking about mounting server / on client / or /server/somerootfs as / on client the advantage of LTSP is that all the hacking you need to do to get it working smoothly has been done for you. Perhaps you can walk me through how you configure a diskless client so that I understand what you mean? -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by cmb-h7HJ8Pof2EbbR28j2ZUwYgC/G2K4zDHf＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Apparantly flu virus detection and removal is similar to the problem of detecting and removing real (computer) viruses. They change all the time, and if you don't have the latest signature, then you aren't covered for the latest virus. Maybe the flu shot people let their subscription lapse. Charly Baker On Thursday 18 December 2003 9:23 am, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > > I know a lot of people who did who got sick anyway. This years strain > > seemed to have been missed. I can see you have been taken by the > > That was reported on the TV news a few days ago iirc, although they did > say a strain "similar" to this year's the major flu was included. Yay :) > > I don't believe this is a case of anyone being inept. From what I > understand, figuring out which flu will be the serious one in any given > year can be a matter of guess work, and as a result they can get it wrong. > > Rob -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[Sophisticated Searches]
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 08:29, GDHough wrote: > I would like to extract specific information from lines in log files and > perform math functions on them. Grep is ok for getting the lines I want and > putting them where I want them. But I've reached a limit in what I can do > because I lack the education. > > Two things I need to learn: > > 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in > Ethereal. > > 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after > doin $ummath on $omefield. While you can do everything you want with various shell tools you'll probably find it much easier to use a higher-level (?) scripting language; perl or whatever alternative you prefer. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > I know a lot of people who did who got sick anyway. This years strain > seemed to have been missed. I can see you have been taken by the That was reported on the TV news a few days ago iirc, although they did say a strain "similar" to this year's the major flu was included. Yay :) I don't believe this is a case of anyone being inept. From what I understand, figuring out which flu will be the serious one in any given year can be a matter of guess work, and as a result they can get it wrong. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, GDHough wrote: > 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in > Ethereal. Are you aware of the ability to do regex expressions in grep? This should do exactly what you want. > 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after > doin $ummath on $omefield. If I was sticking to shell I'd use "cut" here. > I've been looking at man pages and am thinking awk sort uniq ... am I looking > in the right direction? Are there any cautionary comments with shell tools as > powerful as awk? What are '.po' files? Shell tools tend to have a narrower focus than awk but each is very powerful in what it does. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

I would like to extract specific information from lines in log files and perform math functions on them. Grep is ok for getting the lines I want and putting them where I want them. But I've reached a limit in what I can do because I lack the education. Two things I need to learn: 1 - How I can search for subnet matches in /var/log/messages, like I can in Ethereal. 2 - How I can extract $omefield (columns?) and print $ame to $omefile after doin $ummath on $omefield. I've been looking at man pages and am thinking awk sort uniq ... am I looking in the right direction? Are there any cautionary comments with shell tools as powerful as awk? What are '.po' files? Thanks, farmer6re9 -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On Thursday 18 December 2003 06:46, James Knott wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > > I would just like to say, after 3 days of suffering with a temp of 105 > > and 0 hours of sleep, anyone else who got this flu bug goin' around, you > > have my *deepest* sympathies. > > > > I'm just thankful I got it before Christmas. > > Maybe next year, you'll get a flu shot. Maybe next year they'll put the correct strain in the shot and have enough to go around...not that I ever get one myself. -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

James Knott wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > >> I would just like to say, after 3 days of suffering with a temp of 105 >> and 0 >> hours of sleep, anyone else who got this flu bug goin' around, you >> have my >> *deepest* sympathies. >> >> I'm just thankful I got it before Christmas. >> > > Maybe next year, you'll get a flu shot. I know a lot of people who did who got sick anyway. This years strain seemed to have been missed. I can see you have been taken by the christmas spirit! :) Madison -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

On December 18, 2003 06:46 am, James Knott wrote: > Maybe next year, you'll get a flu shot. I got a flu shot this year and within 2 hours I had a 40 degree fever. I was sick for several days. I think I'll be passing on the opportunity next year. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by james.knott-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

JoeHill wrote: > I would just like to say, after 3 days of suffering with a temp of 105 and 0 > hours of sleep, anyone else who got this flu bug goin' around, you have my > *deepest* sympathies. > > I'm just thankful I got it before Christmas. > Maybe next year, you'll get a flu shot. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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