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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Ok, the old links are still available, I was wrong. Sorry. The info on that page shocked me into posting early while I was reading something else. Knoppix does not yet close because of .eu software patents. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Dec 2003, Matthew Rice wrote: > > > patents concern _could_ cause companies and orgs [like knoppix] to shut down. > > That page should have contained download links and such. It does not (or > not anymore). And I want to add that this is the first Linux company that pulled a linux product for fear of patents. (I secretly hope that they did it for bandwidth reasons and low returns reasons although knoppix certainly put a previously unheard-of company on the map). Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Sat, 5 Dec 2003, Matthew Rice wrote: > patents concern _could_ cause companies and orgs [like knoppix] to shut down. That page should have contained download links and such. It does not (or not anymore). Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Justin Zygmont wrote: > what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too > slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to > see how it is. It's an excellent demo that I do not hesiatate to give to windoze users who are nagging me about 'linux being text mode' and 'having no graphics' and being 'strange' and having 'no office applications'. Knoppix kind of shuts them up rapidly on all these points. Also it is possible to hack (I mean customize) knoppix so you can run about with *your* favorite apps on a cd and use them where you want, without installing anything. Peter > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Hello Every One
by roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Hi I'm Stephen Oulton I have just changed my system to Red Hat 9.0 and I am having trouble with things running because of the hosts file. It suggests that I add CPE0080c6f2a89b-CM00003940c461 to the file. I have done that and I still get the same error when I log on to the system. Does any one have any suggestions? Thanks in advance Stephen Oulton <roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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.eu laws: rofl
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Check out EP1249000 on this page: http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/index.en.html Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Justin Zygmont <jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b at public.gmane.org> writes: > what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too > slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to > see how it is. ...or getting more tools for recovery than can fit on tomsrtbt... ...or for some thin clients [although you could use PXE and stuff]... ...or for demonstrating Linux to people without trashing/repartitioning their hard drives... ...or you can still use local disk/USB memory sticks for data storage and leave the knoppix as the easily distributed OS... ...or that cool knoppix+OpenMosix clustering distro... ...or... Yeah, you're right. Kind of useless. I didn't see on the homepage that they shut down, though. Just that the EU patents concern _could_ cause companies and orgs [like knoppix] to shut down. > > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > > > > Peter > > -- > > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- matthew rice <matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. phone: 905-771-0017 x242 thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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european patent horror gallery
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Not all in English but I feel that you will manage: http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/index.en.html Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to see how it is. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > > Peter > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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M$ to license FAT
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: > > As the title says. Impact on Linux ? > > If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on > FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or > at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. > > Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is > more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been > filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. That sounds enough to me. On another list someone did check and the current patents are on long filenames. If you want to read it, here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp also on this page: http://swpat.ffii.org/archive/quotes/index.en.html there is a reference to the creator of virtualdub having a cold call from borg to drop ASF support. And he did. DivX maker is scared. Take a minute and read that page if you haven't already, at least the headlines. The borg seems to be very active now. It seems to be related to that case of scorn. Lacking a winning card, why not throw the whole pack randomly and hope they drown ? Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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