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Istop and Reply-To
by joehill-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:09:37 -0500 Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use a > > "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? > > I doubt they'd try to enforce something quite so ridiculous. I've never > talked to their support department except in the first few days when Bell > decided to screw with my line. I send my email through their server using my > own domain name, have no problems and never use reply-to. Well, this person is claiming that, due to the fact that IStop uses "a lot of SPAM filtering systems", they have to set a "reply to" or they will somehow "lose e-mail". Setting a "reply-to" for mailing lists is a major headache, and this person refuses to comply with mailing list etiquette. Oh well, whatcha gonna do, there's always one... -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Istop and Reply-To
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On December 6, 2003 08:31 am, JoeHill wrote: > I've got someone on another list claiming that Istop users *must* use a > "reply-to" setting in their mailer as a matter of policy. > > Can any Istop users confirm or deny this? I doubt they'd try to enforce something quite so ridiculous. I've never talked to their support department except in the first few days when Bell decided to screw with my line. I send my email through their server using my own domain name, have no problems and never use reply-to. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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M$ to license FAT
by james.knott-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

Marc Lijour (Professeur d'Informatique) wrote: > Le 5 D?cembre 2003 18:21, James Knott a ?crit : > >>cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: >> >>>>As the title says. Impact on Linux ? >>> >>>If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on >>>FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or >>>at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. >>> >>>Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is >>>more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been >>>filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. >> >>The only place I use FAT, is on systems that also run Windows. So, if >>those partitions are created by Windows and just happen to be accessed >>by Linux, would that be a patent violation? > > > I heard that the swap filesystem is build from FAT. Is that true? I doubt it. A swap partiton doesn't need a files system. All the space is available for use. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Robert Brockway wrote: > In any case I can't see any evidence they have closed. The warning about > Euro patent law has been on their page for months. > > http://www.knoppix.net/ looks alive and well. Yes but it was new to me (why don't they put a date on pages like this ?! - I love to find pages with 'urgent action required' - posted in 1998)) and I got fooled by the small link to knoppix inside it. The page I am referring to is: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ which is the url the live cd sends you to. Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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european patent horror gallery
by marc-bbkyySd1vPWsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Le 5 D?cembre 2003 17:19, Peter L. Peres a ?crit : > Not all in English but I feel that you will manage: > > http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/index.en.html > > Peter > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml Other links: http://eurolinux.org/ http://www.aful.org/index.html -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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M$ to license FAT
by marc-bbkyySd1vPWsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Le 5 D?cembre 2003 18:21, James Knott a ?crit : > cbbrowne-HInyCGIudOg at public.gmane.org wrote: > >>As the title says. Impact on Linux ? > > > > If the claims are true, that there are "live" patents still in place on > > FAT, then it is conceivable that there might be patent infringments, or > > at least places where MSFT could _claim_ that there are. > > > > Of course, FAT is pretty much derivative of CP/M filesystems, so it is > > more than likely that any conceivable patents would have to have been > > filed in the '80s, and thus would have, at most, 3 more years to run. > > The only place I use FAT, is on systems that also run Windows. So, if > those partitions are created by Windows and just happen to be accessed > by Linux, would that be a patent violation? I heard that the swap filesystem is build from FAT. Is that true? > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Justin Zygmont wrote: > what is so useful about this distro anyways, running from a CD is way too > slow, and not at all feasable for much of anything except maybe testing to > see how it is. In any case I can't see any evidence they have closed. The warning about Euro patent law has been on their page for months. http://www.knoppix.net/ looks alive and well. Rob -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

ya, nice. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Austin Acton wrote: > On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 21:29, Justin Zygmont wrote: > > heh, suse and others offer an live demo CD, but not the ISOs. This just > > seems similar to me. > > All the more reason to use MandrakeMove, right? ;-) > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/mandrakemove/ > > Austin > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by aacton-B71PBEe7S7Y＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 21:29, Justin Zygmont wrote: > heh, suse and others offer an live demo CD, but not the ISOs. This just > seems similar to me. All the more reason to use MandrakeMove, right? ;-) http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/mandrakemove/ Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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KNOPPIX closes because Europe passes software IP laws
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:29:22PM -0500, Justin Zygmont wrote: > > Yeah, you're right. Kind of useless. > > heh, suse and others offer an live demo CD, but not the ISOs. This just > seems similar to me. Slackware had "live CD" since the beginning of time. But, do they get any credit? -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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