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[curious snort]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Just wondering if there are any snorters out there or if this kind of traffic is considered hostile inside a nat: Generated by ACID v0.9.6b23 on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:32:54 -0500 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #(1 - 2701) [2003-12-24 00:01:59] [snort/46] (snort_decoder) WARNING: TCP Data Offset is less than 5! IPv4: 63.247.85.10 -> my.inet.addr.200 hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=1500 ID=60224 flags=0 offset=0 TTL=47 chksum=17258 TCP: port=80 -> dport: 44963 flags=2**A*RS* seq=1813803659 ack=1215956819 off=4 res=4 win=21299 urp=38947 chksum=1522 Payload: none DNS GNAX.net 63.247.85.10 - cereza.estarr-5.com -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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[module pwcx.o]
by mr6re9-mI4xJ4qlgtBiLUuM0BA3LQ＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

This is a so called "OPTIONAL" plugin to the pwc driver my system chose to load for the Logitech QuickCam. I added it in to hopefully unlock some useful features of the device. In particular, I didn't like the tiny 160x120 images. I understand that by default there were insufficient buffers available for larger captures. pwc and pwcx reference http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/release.html The method I chose to get the larger captures was quick-n-dirty I know, but I'm not all that familiar with rebuilding kernels. The problem is RedHat's versioning. This "OPTIONAL" plugin is NOT available as source and so the alternatives are to fall back to a clean 2.4.20 kernel or go forward to 2.5 or 2.6. In any event, insmod --force pwcx does the trick for now. Another nagging problem is the way this device causes the sound card config to be overwritten at times. It shows up as 5 new sound devices on a reboot and if configured then, will become the only sound device available as a microphone. And the mic don't work either. I can restore the sound server by rebooting with the cam unplugged. There are other ways but I'm in quick-n-dirty mode right now. I believe I can fix the multiple sound card problem with ALSA, I seen something in the errors about full duplex. So I guess what I'm asking is this: Can I avoid another 18Mb syslog thrash with any more quick-n-dirty tricks? or Have I reached the work-around limit for this device and need to build that custom kernel? farmer6re9 -- Eating Crow is better with MyCrowSauce -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

That would seem to be the case. However, I have used -many- of these Seagates and I have never seen one suddenly pooch before. I am debating running the Seagate test on it or decide to just recommend having it sent to a data recovery house... I know that backups of the superblock are made, do you know by chance how to locate them and/or how to tell the OS to use one for mounting? Also, at least two partitions on the drive have gone bad... Madison > Either the drive had a hardware OR the superblock is toast. It doesnt > seem > likely to be both. >>From your description, it appears that the drive is functioning, but the > superblock is gone. Is that correct? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Madison Kelly" <linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> > To: <tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:23 AM > Subject: [TLUG]: Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help > please!! > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Well, the fact that I am posting this after 12:00am Sunday night (and >> on >> my birthday, to-boot!) should indicate just how dire the situation is... >> I have had a drive failure on a server and I can no longer mount the >> data partition on the hard drive (/dev/hda5 [ext3 under RH7.3]) because >> the replacement server (Fedora Core 1) claims that the drive's >> superblock is toast. >> >> Now, before anyone rips me a new one, I -DO- have a tape drive but >> that, >> too, has rather depressingly failed. When I try to recover the files >> from the IDE Travan 8GB drive it successdully recovers about 50 files >> and then fails with this... >> >> -= Begin Error =- >> [root-9CO/sRhIDOA at public.gmane.org tape]# tar zxvf /dev/ht0 >> . >> [bunch-of-files] >> . >> home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec >> Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/navex15.exp >> home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec >> Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/navex15.sys >> home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec >> Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/NAVEX15.VXD >> >> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file >> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive >> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive >> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now >> [root-9CO/sRhIDOA at public.gmane.org tape]# >> -= End Error =- >> >> This is true on three of the tapes I have tried to recover from. The >> data >> was backed up via this simple script: >> >> -= Begin Script =- >> mt -f /dev/ht0 erase >> mt -f /dev/ht0 rewind >> tar zcvf /dev/ht0 /home/* >> -= End Script =- >> >> I have been Googling for a while now with no success. If anyone has any >> clues, by all means -please- share them... Also, if anyone here can >> recommend (as a fall back) a data recovery house that won't balk at an >> ext3 partition, please forward contact info. >> >> Thanks everyone (again!!!) >> >> The Ever-Stumbling Madison >> -- >> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org >> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml >> >> > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi everyone, Well, the fact that I am posting this after 12:00am Sunday night (and on my birthday, to-boot!) should indicate just how dire the situation is... I have had a drive failure on a server and I can no longer mount the data partition on the hard drive (/dev/hda5 [ext3 under RH7.3]) because the replacement server (Fedora Core 1) claims that the drive's superblock is toast. Now, before anyone rips me a new one, I -DO- have a tape drive but that, too, has rather depressingly failed. When I try to recover the files from the IDE Travan 8GB drive it successdully recovers about 50 files and then fails with this... -= Begin Error =- [root-9CO/sRhIDOA at public.gmane.org tape]# tar zxvf /dev/ht0 . [bunch-of-files] . home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/navex15.exp home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/navex15.sys home/OldC/Program Files/Common Files/Symantec Shared/VirusDefs/19970902.001/NAVEX15.VXD gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [root-9CO/sRhIDOA at public.gmane.org tape]# -= End Error =- This is true on three of the tapes I have tried to recover from. The data was backed up via this simple script: -= Begin Script =- mt -f /dev/ht0 erase mt -f /dev/ht0 rewind tar zcvf /dev/ht0 /home/* -= End Script =- I have been Googling for a while now with no success. If anyone has any clues, by all means -please- share them... Also, if anyone here can recommend (as a fall back) a data recovery house that won't balk at an ext3 partition, please forward contact info. Thanks everyone (again!!!) The Ever-Stumbling Madison -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Tom Legrady wrote: > Ten years ago I worked in an office of 8 developers which used a Sparc > 10 with 32 MB ( or maybe 64 MB, I forget ) and 1 GB HD, driving a > bunch of NCD Xterminals. We were using vi & emacs and ruunning gcc all > day long > > Phillip Mills wrote: >> I certainly wouldn't be happy doing software development with 64MB >> on any of my systems, whether Linux, Mac, or MS. ...and I'd been writing code for four years before I saw a *mini* computer with a whole megabyte of main memory. (It tended to bog down when it hit about a dozen concurrent Fortran compiles.) I didn't say it was impossible, just that I wouldn't be happy. :-) ........................ Phillip Mills Multi-platform software development (416) 224-0714 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Robert Brockway wrote: >On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, David J Patrick wrote: > > > >>I'll try and make it Monday >> .. unless .. we dedicate the post TLUG brewskie to the municipal cause >> on the 9th ? >> rather than our usual frivolity ? >> >> > >Given that the majority of TLUG members are likely not interested in being >involved I think it makes sense to have a seperate meeting. A couple of >people have confirmed for the Monday Jan 12th meeting already so we'll see >what sort of brain storming we get done :) > >Rob > > > Sound logic there, Robert. Better for me too, as we can get wobbly while talking about the caffe . As stated earlier, I will do my best to attend Mondays session. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by rbrockway-wgAaPJgzrDxH4x6Dk/4f9A＠public.gmane.org 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, David J Patrick wrote: > I'll try and make it Monday > .. unless .. we dedicate the post TLUG brewskie to the municipal cause > on the 9th ? > rather than our usual frivolity ? Given that the majority of TLUG members are likely not interested in being involved I think it makes sense to have a seperate meeting. A couple of people have confirmed for the Monday Jan 12th meeting already so we'll see what sort of brain storming we get done :) Rob -- Robert Brockway Senior Technical Consultant, OpenTrend Solutions Ltd. Phone: 416-669-3073, Email: rbrockway-wgAaPJgzrDxH4x6Dk/4f9A at public.gmane.org, http://www.opentrend.net OpenTrend Solutions: Reliable, secure solutions to real world problems. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by legrady-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Ten years ago I worked in an office of 8 developers which used a Sparc 10 with 32 MB ( or maybe 64 MB, I forget ) and 1 GB HD, driving a bunch of NCD Xterminals. We were using vi & emacs and ruunning gcc all day long Phillip Mills wrote: > On Saturday, December 27, 2003, at 01:23 PM, Howard Gibson wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:08:49 -0500 >> Phillip Mills <pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q at public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> Quote: >>> "The city's problem is that 14,000 of its 17,500 computers are of 1999 >>> vintage or older, which means that the operating system they run on is >>> Microsoft Windows NT, a program which the software company will no >>> longer support after some time next year, and they do not have the >>> capacity to run on the next generation of software, Windows XP, which >>> the city plans to switch to." >>> >> My 1998 computer works okay as long as I do not launch KDE. I >> have added a lot of RAM since I bought the thing, 64MB to 256MB. My >> second hand laptop has 64MB of RAM. I am running Red Hat 8 on both >> machines. >> >> I am here to tell you that 64MB is not enough for Red Hat 8. If I >> cannot get more than 64MB into the laptop, this will be its final >> upgrade. >> >> I suspect that if you install the latest version of Linux onto >> these old machines, you will teach a bunch of people to hate Linux. >> A clever administrator may get these machines to work efficiently, >> but new machines are probably easier and more reliable, Linux or no >> Linux. > > > I don't have a problem with anything you're saying, except that I miss > the point. I certainly wouldn't be happy doing software development > with 64MB on any of my systems, whether Linux, Mac, or MS. > > I have a Dell P3 733 that was given to me with NT 4 Workstation > running. I have it dual-booting with NT and SuSE 8.1/KDE. The > interface feels faster under Linux than Windows. Years ago -- when NT > 4 was new -- I converted a PII to Linux and used it as an Internet > gateway for a 20-person office. Running NT, it wouldn't have worked > as well...if at all. Since the people referenced in the above quote > are using NT already, then equivalent functions on a Linux system > should *not* be a *worse* experience for performance. I think one > would have to try really hard to install Linux such that it felt > slower than NT on any given system. > > If workers need upgraded systems because of their job functions or > because the standard for acceptable performance has changed, that's > fine. If they need them just to do an XP upgrade -- like the article > suggests -- that seems terribly wasteful. > > ........................ > Phillip Mills > Multi-platform software development > (416) 224-0714 > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

On Saturday, December 27, 2003, at 01:23 PM, Howard Gibson wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:08:49 -0500 > Phillip Mills <pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q at public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> Quote: >> "The city's problem is that 14,000 of its 17,500 computers are of 1999 >> vintage or older, which means that the operating system they run on is >> Microsoft Windows NT, a program which the software company will no >> longer support after some time next year, and they do not have the >> capacity to run on the next generation of software, Windows XP, which >> the city plans to switch to." >> > My 1998 computer works okay as long as I do not launch KDE. I have > added a lot of RAM since I bought the thing, 64MB to 256MB. My second > hand laptop has 64MB of RAM. I am running Red Hat 8 on both machines. > > I am here to tell you that 64MB is not enough for Red Hat 8. If I > cannot get more than 64MB into the laptop, this will be its final > upgrade. > > I suspect that if you install the latest version of Linux onto > these old machines, you will teach a bunch of people to hate Linux. > A clever administrator may get these machines to work efficiently, but > new machines are probably easier and more reliable, Linux or no Linux. I don't have a problem with anything you're saying, except that I miss the point. I certainly wouldn't be happy doing software development with 64MB on any of my systems, whether Linux, Mac, or MS. I have a Dell P3 733 that was given to me with NT 4 Workstation running. I have it dual-booting with NT and SuSE 8.1/KDE. The interface feels faster under Linux than Windows. Years ago -- when NT 4 was new -- I converted a PII to Linux and used it as an Internet gateway for a 20-person office. Running NT, it wouldn't have worked as well...if at all. Since the people referenced in the above quote are using NT already, then equivalent functions on a Linux system should *not* be a *worse* experience for performance. I think one would have to try really hard to install Linux such that it felt slower than NT on any given system. If workers need upgraded systems because of their job functions or because the standard for acceptable performance has changed, that's fine. If they need them just to do an XP upgrade -- like the article suggests -- that seems terribly wasteful. ........................ Phillip Mills Multi-platform software development (416) 224-0714 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Robert McDonald wrote: >I had put up a wiki for TLUG to use for the purpose of putting together a >proposal for the city of Toronto and a total of 1 ( ONE ) user was able ( or >willing ) to log in to it. > > Aw man ! I was unsucessful when you first put it up and contunue to fail the registration ! Using Mozilla 1.5xft and all cookies enabled (for the occasion) "Wrong registration code" I'm certainly willing, nay eager, to. and I'll try again. >http://www.lampware.info/tiki/tiki-custom_home.php The site could use some >help with fine tuning and I would be happy to setup additional admins for >that purpose. > >It's seems the Group is anxious to debate the pro's and cons via email but >when it comes to getting a Linux proposal for the city of Toronto however a >lot of the talk is just that, talk. Actions speak louder than words. > > > yeah, but usually those actions are triggered by words, so they're not all bad. ;) let's actually put something together ! djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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