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by emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 09:27:03AM -0500, Emir Alikadic wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, (EJH) Emma Jane Hogbin <emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org> wrote: > How do you launch those apps? WindowMaker, for example, has its menus in a > file under ~/GNUstep. Find the equivalent for your wm and view it to see where > the launcher is pointing to, then use "which" and "ls -l" to find what the > launcher is linked to (they're usually just symbolic links). You can then > remove the link and create your own ("ln -s TARGET LINKNAME"). In the end everything was set in /etc/alternatives. I'm not even sure how I figured this out, I was just suddenly in that directory poking around while I was supposed to be doing other things. The x-www-browser was pointing to konqueror. I had to set a new "alternative" with: # update-alternatives --install /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser \ x-www-browser /usr/bin/mozilla-firebird 1000 The syntax is as follows: --install (instead of --remove) /path/to/alternative name-of-alternative /path/to/application/to/use "importance" -- I started at 10, 100 and finally 1000 was the number I needed to use to override konqueror. Anything smaller than that and the konqueror link was added instead of a mozilla one. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by rbrockway-wgAaPJgzrDxH4x6Dk/4f9A＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: Hi Maddy. I hope you got some sleep last night... > I know that backups of the superblock are made, do you know by chance how > to locate them and/or how to tell the OS to use one for mounting? Also, at No one mentioned this (and I didn't read TLUG yesterday) so here it is: /sbin/dumpe2fs /dev/hdxy (where xy is a1, b2, etc) will give you this info. There is quite a lot of output so redirect it to a file and read it with less, eg: /sbin/dumpe2fs /dev/hde3 > /tmp/hde3.info Search for the word "Superblock" Now, take that number and use it with e2fsck -b, Eg I have "Superblock at 163840" listed for /dev/hde3, so I could try: e2fsck -b 163840 /dev/hde3. Remember to only work on backup copies! See below. > least two partitions on the drive have gone bad... Different filesystems (partitions) being bad makes it far less likely it is a filesystem problem. Also, the use of dd was mentioned. This is good but there is no need to write it to a physical drive. You can write the dd to a file and mount it using loopback and attempt recovery on that. As long as you keep a good copy of the filesystem file around you can keep trying things over and over on copies. Good luck. Rob -- Robert Brockway Senior Technical Consultant, OpenTrend Solutions Ltd. Phone: 416-669-3073, Email: rbrockway-wgAaPJgzrDxH4x6Dk/4f9A at public.gmane.org, http://www.opentrend.net OpenTrend Solutions: Reliable, secure solutions to real world problems. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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by emir-rdkfGonbjUTTQjIoRn/dzw＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, (EJH) Emma Jane Hogbin <emmajane-MHIYrZpDPrNWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org> wrote: EJH> I have a few KDE apps that I like using for various tasks. Unfortunately EJH> the interface fonts were messed up so I installed the KDE base to get them EJH> working again. KDE has now hijacked my system and is using all of its apps EJH> instead of the ones /I/ want. The current problem is that Mozilla-Firebird EJH> is no longer my default browser. EJH> EJH> Any idea of where to fix this? I tried kcontrol but I couldn't find EJH> anything that would allow me to set the default applications... How do you launch those apps? WindowMaker, for example, has its menus in a file under ~/GNUstep. Find the equivalent for your wm and view it to see where the launcher is pointing to, then use "which" and "ls -l" to find what the launcher is linked to (they're usually just symbolic links). You can then remove the link and create your own ("ln -s TARGET LINKNAME"). -- Emir. "If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now." [Zaphod Beeblebrox] -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

there was this place that does it. www.chguy.net On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > Hi! > > Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux > distributions? > > Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be > cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > > Thanks! > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: >Hi! > >Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux >distributions? > >Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be >cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > >Thanks! > > > Stephan Try www.cheapbytes.com Clive -- Clive DaSilva CMA Home Tel: 416-421-2480 Cell: 416-560-8820 Email: cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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FYI on updated RPMs for redhat 7.3 (see note
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Lloyd D Budd wrote: >-----Forwarded Message----- >From: Chip Cuccio <chipster-hjhRz81uzAkdnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org> >I also maintain a large repository of Red Hat 7.3 RPMs, mainly because I >manage quite a few 7.3 servers at work and my home "data center" - and >statistics show that many other companies/people out there still use 7.3 >(especially on the server platform) for its stability and quality. I like 7.3, but it have one big issue: it use somewhat non-standard gcc 2.96. Is there any successful modification of 7.3 to accomodate the running of binaries compiled by gcc 3? Thanks! -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by IlyaPalagin-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Madison Kelly wrote: > Yep, still under OE (*shudder*) > > Thanks for the suggestion, Walter. I did make a copy of the tar.gz file but > I got nothing useful out of it. I am still waiting now for the darn > activation code for a MS-based ext3-aware data recovery tool... Maybe that > will finally crack my rough luck thus far - if it ever arrives! > > Tom, thanks for the note about gunzip -c being the same as zcat. I will make > another backup and give that a go, though my hopes are narrow... Oh, and > given the current state of my hardware; I certainly would not trust my tape > to make another dump so Walter's suggestion is/was valid. > > Madison (who has passed the 24hours mark and wishes she could just get a > break and then go home!!) For your daily backup operations, a recommend you to use star instead of tar. star has a nice "diff" option, which allows to verify backups. Like tar, it's multiplatform, so you can take your tapes to a friend with the same tape drive and try to restore data on his system to make sure that your backups make sence. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Legrady" <legrady-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> > To: <tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help > please!! > > > >>Don't use zcat to decompress a file ... use the appropriate tool, gunzip: >> >>gunzip file.tar.gz >>ls file.tar >> >>NB. gunzip -c file.tar.gz is identical to zcat/ >> >> >>He already has a backup of the tar.gz ... it's called a tape >> >>Tom >> >>Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:51:45AM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>PS - I got a dd of th last tape that ran (finally) and it is about 3.6GB >>>>(about right). I extracted it as a tar.gz (which should work) but it > > fails > >>>>claiming to not be a gzip archive... Any ideas on that front by chance? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> *MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE TAR.GZ FILE FIRST* !!! >>> >>> Straight from the man page... >>> >>> >>> >>>> tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz >>>> extract gzipped foo.tar.gz >>>> >>>> >>> >>>..did you remember the "z" parameter ? >>> >>> I've had similar problems with tar.bz2 archives. I find that doing it >>>one step at a time works. Note, you will need a *LOT* more diskspace. >>> >>>Step 1) zcat filename.tar.gz > filename.tar >>> The "zcat" executable is named "gzcat" in some versions. Use whichever >>>one works on your system. >>> >>>Step 2) tar -xvf filename.tar >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org >>TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns >>How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Madison Kelly wrote: >Hi everyone, > > Well, the fact that I am posting this after 12:00am Sunday night (and on >my birthday, to-boot!) should indicate just how dire the situation is... >I have had a drive failure on a server and I can no longer mount the >data partition on the hard drive (/dev/hda5 [ext3 under RH7.3]) because >the replacement server (Fedora Core 1) claims that the drive's >superblock is toast. > have you considered a boot linux (like knoppix) in order to move trapped data and/ or assess damage ? works for me, YYMV djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by rico.juan-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

try http://www.easylinuxcds.com On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 04:46, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > Hi! > > Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux > distributions? > > Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be > cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > > Thanks! -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

> Madison (who has passed the 24hours mark and wishes she could just get a > break and then go home!!) Please let us know how this all turns out. I'm quite interested in the ultimate resolution! Sounds like a text book case of the typical failed drive/bad tape nightmare scenario. I've been through this kind of hell but it was when I was part of the dark side and had to restore MS boxen, or attempt to, from bad Veritas/BackupExec and/or Legato backups (though most of the time it worked). Part of the overall procedure (which mind you wasn't followed regularly for whatever reasons) was periodic restores to make sure everything would work when called upon. Nothing like having a shelf full of backups that turn out to be shitworthy in the end. Oh; I would avoid CDs for backup... I've used numerous brands across multiple writers and I'm finding that they are just not trustworthy enough over time. Some people seem to have something against tape, but I'd be far more inclined to trust DLT over CD. And keep them drives clean! It does help. My experience with using RAID (level 5 or similar levels of redundancy) is that it obviates the need for 90% of the restores I would have had to do in the past. Except, of course, people that want a restore done to get an old version of a file back. RAID is not a panacea, but who gives a shit about a busted drive or a 12 hour restore when you can just pop in a new drive with nary a hiccup? If you got the money, go RAID and complement it with a good backup system (I like DLT). Given a solid and well designed IT infrastructure, using good stuff, backups should be solid, reliable, and never, ever needed. Or for those with massive amounts of data, go SAN. While I'm rambling on, make sure you have clean electrical power, preferably backed up with a UPS. Numerous restores I've done in the past would have been avoided if the machine didn't hiccup or crash due to a brownout or power failure. They don't have to keep your boxen running for days on end, just enough time to close open files and back down gracefully. They also help for restores and backups; rather annoying when a long, long restore craps out midway through due to a power glitch. Tapes will also be more reliable if your power is clean too, but I suppose that is conjecture. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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