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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 13:55, Brian K Garel wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL > > Any suggestions are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Brian K. Garel > brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org > > "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." > -Mark Twain I've had great experience with Sentex. Great support, good prices, and excellent reliability. Check it out at: http://www.sentex.net Kareem -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO has valid case
by dstubbs-ZsETY1VsSgK5ibTBNBZY+dUNXN58jlyp＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

> BTW... and this is entirely speculation... what happens to software if > the > copyright owner is defunct? It's not like SCO is going to leave a will or > an estate. Is it at this point that M$ buys the ...what? ...copyrights? > ...SCO? outright for nothing in a short stock trade? Remember this? > > NOW it's getting interesting! This might be very very important. SCO is pretty much a starving, almost-dead, shrivelled, emaciated near-corpse and for all that, is making quite a racket. They haven't been able to ship a compelling product in years. Any time I've ever had to support SCO Unix I've hated it. ALL of the other UNIXes are much more amenable to easy administration, and a lot more of the usual tools you'd expect are there. Anyway, what happens if SCO folds up and goes out of business? How bad would it be if Microsoft bought the leftovers of SCO and decided to continue the fight, just for fun? Could Microsoft afford to litigate Linux into oblivion? At least in the US anyway? Finally, would it be possible to get concerned Linux users together to buy SCO? Or at least to buy the scraps if they folded up? Maybe then we could officially bequeath UNIX to the public domain... If each angry concerned Linux user out there put $100 into this cause, could we do it? Dave... -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO.com and Caldera.com dead
by dstubbs-ZsETY1VsSgK5ibTBNBZY+dUNXN58jlyp＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Rick Tomaschuk wrote: > While I hate to keep taking SCO's side in things since I fully support > the Linux movement I don't think any of SCO's long time customers care > wheather or not SCO's web site is up or not since Openserver has some > machines with verified uptimes of 5, 10 and 17+ years without reboot. > If any machine is repeatedly attacked by professionals it will crash. > RickT > > Interesting! Especially since Openserver has barely been around for 5 years, let alone 10 and 17+ years. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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St. Christopher House web page needs alt tags, was RE: Learning PHP
by andzy-bYF1QM81rroS+FvcfC7Uqw＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:20:15 -0400 (EDT), "Max Blanco" <blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F at public.gmane.org> said: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > > > BTW: how does an ALT tag display in a text browser? > > <p> > <img src="foo.jpg" alt="[bar]"> > </p> > > looks like this in lynx: > > [bar] > > > Also: this looks a lot better in links (aka elinks) than in lynx. Didn't > > try w3m. > > elinks??? whazzat? is it javascript enabled? > Links was a text web browser project. Elinks is a fork of links but is now accepted as a replacement for links. It does table layout (though no javascript) so it's really much more suitable for browsing modern web pages than lynx. The Debian package name is 'links-ssl' ------------------- Andrew Malcolmson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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The most recent meeting
by andzy-bYF1QM81rroS+FvcfC7Uqw＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:54:27 -0400, "Phillip Mills" <pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q at public.gmane.org> said: > On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Mike Kallies wrote: > > > I have these visions of some poor journalist standing at the front of > > an auditorium with his notebook on a podium with 50 people yelling > > stuff like "run ldconfig!", "Pick the frame buffer X driver!", "No, > > the OTHER left mouse button!", "You need devfs for that to work!", > > "'ln' dash 's', no! 'ln' _space_ dash 's'!" > > You're psychic! The only way it could have been worse is if we'd given > the poor guy a wedgie on his way out. > I am absolutely amazed that his follow-up article wasn't a complete > dismissal of Linux, TLUG, and everything else that even contains the > letter 'L'. :-) Maybe we should have pointed out that non-commercial Linux software is mostly distributed in rpm or deb format and installed by way of package managers and therefore actually simpler than installing on Windows. We could have, by way of contrast, demonstrated installing AbiWord or OpenOffice (from a local source) with Synaptic. Also, we could have demonstrated with Xandros where Crossover Office setup is a breeze - just pick it off a 'Start Menu' item. ------------------- Andrew Malcolmson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Interpret Network Communication
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

On Saturday 30 August 2003 01:22, Marc Lijour (Professeur d'Informatique) wrote: > I need a nice program to listen to the traffic between my machine to the > outside. > Nice output welcome. > > Any recommandations? Depends what it is that you want to know. If you're looking for statistics on how much traffic each machine and/or protocol generates ntop is excellent for that. If you're looking to rip open packet to see what's inside then you'll need to look at other programs. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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The most recent meeting
by pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Mike Kallies wrote: > I have these visions of some poor journalist standing at the front of > an auditorium with his notebook on a podium with 50 people yelling > stuff like "run ldconfig!", "Pick the frame buffer X driver!", "No, > the OTHER left mouse button!", "You need devfs for that to work!", > "'ln' dash 's', no! 'ln' _space_ dash 's'!" You're psychic! The only way it could have been worse is if we'd given the poor guy a wedgie on his way out. I am absolutely amazed that his follow-up article wasn't a complete dismissal of Linux, TLUG, and everything else that even contains the letter 'L'. :-) ........................ Phillip Mills Multi-platform software development (416) 224-0714 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Interpret Network Communication
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Marc Lijour (Professeur d'Informatique) wrote: > Hi, > > I need a nice program to listen to the traffic between my machine to the > outside. > Nice output welcome. > > Any recommandations? ethereal. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Interpret Network Communication
by marc-bbkyySd1vPWsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Le 30 Ao??t 2003 01:22, Marc Lijour (Professeur d'Informatique) a ??crit : > Hi, > > I need a nice program to listen to the traffic between my machine to the > outside. > Nice output welcome. > > Any recommandations? > > Marc Never mind. I found with ettercap everything I needed. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Interpret Network Communication
by marc-bbkyySd1vPWsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hi, I need a nice program to listen to the traffic between my machine to the outside. Nice output welcome. Any recommandations? Marc -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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