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telnet
by aacton-B71PBEe7S7Y＠public.gmane.org 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 00:01, Merv Curley wrote: > I just came across a BBS which is accessed with telnet. While the stock > telnet in Xterm works, has anyone come across a front end or something with > a few more features? A search at sourceforge didn't show anything for > Linux. gnome-telnet (a.k.a. gtelnet) It's good, and it does ssh as well. Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Selling Linux ??
by hgibson-MwcKTmeKVNQ＠public.gmane.org 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:24:56 -0500 William Park <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote: > 1. Does anyone know who is currently selling (Linux based) X-terminals? > > X-terminal is the "canonical" solution for many situations. And, recent > development in PXE network booting makes > Etherboot, Netboot, Rom-a-matic, LTSP (Linux Terminal Server > Project), Mknbi-linux, Imggen, ... > all obsolete. If you have 3c905 (what I have), then you can boot > over network without above packages. I'm told you can also do that > with Intel's ethernet card, as expected since PXE is Intel spec. > > 2. Do you think there is much demand for 2, 3, or 4 users logging onto > single computer? ie. "Linux mainframe". > > That is, multiple sets of monitors, keyboards, and mouses hooked up > to single computer; much like serial terminals, but with XDM. This > would be primarily aimed at home market, where you want to have one > computer serving 2, 3, or 4 users, but don't want to buy 2, 3, or 4 > separate computers. > > Any comments or insights would be appreciated. William, An X Terminal is nothing more than a machine with a monitor, keyboard and mouse that puts up an X11 display. You do not care what the OS is. What Linux gets you is a use for all those old Pentiums that everybody wants to get rid of, that otherwise, are running perfectly. If the hardware is okay, Linux provides an X display. My experince from quite a few years ago is that X Terminals are rather expensive for something that is little more than a dumb terminal. As far as a central computer is concerned, there is no free lunch. If your users require 256MB each, your four-user machine requires 1GB of memory. Multiple processors sound to me like a good idea. -- Howard Gibson hgibson-MwcKTmeKVNQ at public.gmane.org howard-42qnO8ePF9cV+D8aMU/kSg at public.gmane.org http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Selling Linux ??
by lists-JN5fZfbfKAtWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 19:24, William Park wrote: > 1. Does anyone know who is currently selling (Linux based) X-terminals? > > X-terminal is the "canonical" solution for many situations. And, recent > development in PXE network booting makes > Etherboot, Netboot, Rom-a-matic, LTSP (Linux Terminal Server > Project), Mknbi-linux, Imggen, ... > all obsolete. If you have 3c905 (what I have), then you can boot > over network without above packages. I'm told you can also do that > with Intel's ethernet card, as expected since PXE is Intel spec. *Some* of those components would be obsolete with PXE. Etherboot/Netboot in particular. However LTSP has to do with the infrastructure on the server-side, so it is by no means obsoleted by the ability to netboot within the NIC's firmware. > 2. Do you think there is much demand for 2, 3, or 4 users logging onto > single computer? ie. "Linux mainframe". > > That is, multiple sets of monitors, keyboards, and mouses hooked up > to single computer; much like serial terminals, but with XDM. This > would be primarily aimed at home market, where you want to have one > computer serving 2, 3, or 4 users, but don't want to buy 2, 3, or 4 > separate computers. Earlier this year a fellow from a company called Display Works (?) did a presentation at TLUG about how he converted his company's internal staff to all use diskless X terminals running off a few Compaq servers running Linux with LTSP. I'm sure someone has the slides from his presentation sitting around somewhere. - Julian -- [ Julian C. Dunn <jdunn-JN5fZfbfKAtWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org> * <julian at dreaming.org> ] [ WWW: www.aquezada.com/staff/julian/ * www.dreaming.org/~julian/ ] [ PGP: 0xFDC205B9 - 91B3 7A9D 683C 7C16 715F 442C 6065 D533 FDC2 05B9 ] [ "sometimes you win, sometimes you lose / and most times ] [ you choose between the two" - carole king, "sweet seasons" ] -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Selling Linux ??
by opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA＠public.gmane.org 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

1. Does anyone know who is currently selling (Linux based) X-terminals? X-terminal is the "canonical" solution for many situations. And, recent development in PXE network booting makes Etherboot, Netboot, Rom-a-matic, LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project), Mknbi-linux, Imggen, ... all obsolete. If you have 3c905 (what I have), then you can boot over network without above packages. I'm told you can also do that with Intel's ethernet card, as expected since PXE is Intel spec. 2. Do you think there is much demand for 2, 3, or 4 users logging onto single computer? ie. "Linux mainframe". That is, multiple sets of monitors, keyboards, and mouses hooked up to single computer; much like serial terminals, but with XDM. This would be primarily aimed at home market, where you want to have one computer serving 2, 3, or 4 users, but don't want to buy 2, 3, or 4 separate computers. Any comments or insights would be appreciated. -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> Linux solution for data management and processing. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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If someone sells laptops w/o Windows installed
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Ok, here are two brands: IPC - older 'disappearing' brand ? 2GHz 256MB 20GB CD-RW+DVD 15" TFT, touchpad, looks very much like a Dell clone ? but isn't one. There are no Dell parts in it. The price is no longer of actuality. Daewoo - 950MHz 256MB 20GB 14.4" TFT (?) no cd (can upgrade) but only 1.6kg (almost a notebook), comes with Lindows and OpenOffice installed, and xtra lithium battery, 3xUSB, ether and modem builtin, all supported by Lindows, for about US$1000 cash or 6 months on credit (remember we have serious taxes here - like 18% vat on everything and more funnies - in your parts the price on discount will likely be 60-70% of what we see here). Interesting, this is the first laptop loaded with Linux that comes from a local shop chain I see here. Good timing for this thread ;-) Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Jay wrote: > okay, for my DNS registration I have the following options > > Primary DNS Host: > Primary DNS IP: > Secondary DNS Host: > Secondary DNS IP: > > It tells me I need at least 2. Should I fill them both out with the same > information both pointing to my machine/IP. Thats what I did? Hi Jay. You need to arrange for 2 (or more) machines with static addresses to act as authorative servers for you. If you home Linux box has a static address, then you can use it at one (as ling as it is ok within the AUP). Your ISP may well be able to run the other one. Alternatively you could look at EveryDNS (http://www.everydns.net) You can run your primary & secondary nameservers there for free. For my domains I have the primary namserver on my own box and use EveryDNS as secondaries. Once you have the 2 machines (wherever they happen to be) correctly configured, you can "delegate" to these machines and your domain goes live. > I also asked istop to change from jay.tor.istop.com to hostname.domain.ca They could change the reverse lookup to point to hostname.domain.ca but it isn't strickly necessary for the functioning of your domain. Just as long as you have some sort of reverse going. > Nowhere does it ask for ZOA or anything like that? I assume that is when I SOA (Start of Authority) is an important part of the zonefile and includes things like the origin (primary nameserver) and the serial (a number that tells authorative servers if their copy of the zonefile is current). There are a lot of ways to subtly get dns configuration wrong (something like 30% of fortune 1000 companies have their dns somewhat misconfigured). I'd suggest reading up a bit more on how dns works to make sure you get it going properly, and I'd suggest giving serious consideration to EveryDNS. Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi All, I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL Any suggestions are very much appreciated! Cheers, Brian K. Garel brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain ----------------------------------------- Original Message: From: Madison Kelly <linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Sent: Sun Aug 31 12:26:21 EDT 2003 Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Help With Home Server When you register your domain (domain.com/ca) you will have to specify which DNS servers will have the zone of authority (ZOA, IIRC). Whatever that server specifies is what will go. I do not believe you -have- to tell Istop, as they should see that domain as a seperate entity from what they have recorded (jay.tor.istop.com) You can have multiple DNS names for one machine. All this said, please differ if someone answers with more authority than I. Madison Jay wrote: > Hi all... > > Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow > you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now > I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my > questions :-) > > Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). > > When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to > the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for > example) Bind? > > Thanks > > Jay -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using DeskNow Lite - Free mail & collaboration server http://www.desknow.com -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

When you register your domain (domain.com/ca) you will have to specify which DNS servers will have the zone of authority (ZOA, IIRC). Whatever that server specifies is what will go. I do not believe you -have- to tell Istop, as they should see that domain as a seperate entity from what they have recorded (jay.tor.istop.com) You can have multiple DNS names for one machine. All this said, please differ if someone answers with more authority than I. Madison Jay wrote: > Hi all... > > Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow > you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now > I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my > questions :-) > > Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). > > When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to > the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for > example) Bind? > > Thanks > > Jay -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help With Home Server
by jay-Zd07PnzKK1IAvxtiuMwx3w＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi all... Several months ago I asked for recommendations on an ISP that will allow you to run a server of the connection. I eventually chose istop.com. Now I have a DNS question. My IP resolved to jay.tor.istop.com.Now my questions :-) Do I ask them to change that to my hostname (hostname.domain.ca). When I purchase my domain, do I set up the DNS information to point to the istop nameserver, or do I point it to my server and run (for example) Bind? Thanks Jay

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ISP Suggestions...(was Re: Re:Help With Home Server)
by kareem-d+8TeBu5bOew5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 13:55, Brian K Garel wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking to stop giving Ted Roger$ all my money and was looking around for a decent service. I saw Jay mention istop.com and was curious if anyone else has any other suggestions. I'm up in Newmarket so I should have access to pretty much anything. Keys here are Price, reliability, and they don't care if you're running servers.....oh yeah....and the support deparment must know something more than how to spell dns! LOL > > Any suggestions are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Brian K. Garel > brian-hkt3R1SlsOrYtjvyW6yDsg at public.gmane.org > > "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." > -Mark Twain I've had great experience with Sentex. Great support, good prices, and excellent reliability. Check it out at: http://www.sentex.net Kareem -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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