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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

there was this place that does it. www.chguy.net On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > Hi! > > Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux > distributions? > > Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be > cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > > Thanks! > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: >Hi! > >Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux >distributions? > >Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be >cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > >Thanks! > > > Stephan Try www.cheapbytes.com Clive -- Clive DaSilva CMA Home Tel: 416-421-2480 Cell: 416-560-8820 Email: cdasilva-q6EoVN9bke6w5LPnMra/2Q at public.gmane.org Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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FYI on updated RPMs for redhat 7.3 (see note
by lists-jiQtrEI3vUxWk0Htik3J/w＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Lloyd D Budd wrote: >-----Forwarded Message----- >From: Chip Cuccio <chipster-hjhRz81uzAkdnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org> >I also maintain a large repository of Red Hat 7.3 RPMs, mainly because I >manage quite a few 7.3 servers at work and my home "data center" - and >statistics show that many other companies/people out there still use 7.3 >(especially on the server platform) for its stability and quality. I like 7.3, but it have one big issue: it use somewhat non-standard gcc 2.96. Is there any successful modification of 7.3 to accomodate the running of binaries compiled by gcc 3? Thanks! -- Stephan Paul Arif Sahari Wibowo _____ _____ _____ _____ /____ /____/ /____/ /____ _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by IlyaPalagin-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Madison Kelly wrote: > Yep, still under OE (*shudder*) > > Thanks for the suggestion, Walter. I did make a copy of the tar.gz file but > I got nothing useful out of it. I am still waiting now for the darn > activation code for a MS-based ext3-aware data recovery tool... Maybe that > will finally crack my rough luck thus far - if it ever arrives! > > Tom, thanks for the note about gunzip -c being the same as zcat. I will make > another backup and give that a go, though my hopes are narrow... Oh, and > given the current state of my hardware; I certainly would not trust my tape > to make another dump so Walter's suggestion is/was valid. > > Madison (who has passed the 24hours mark and wishes she could just get a > break and then go home!!) For your daily backup operations, a recommend you to use star instead of tar. star has a nice "diff" option, which allows to verify backups. Like tar, it's multiplatform, so you can take your tapes to a friend with the same tape drive and try to restore data on his system to make sure that your backups make sence. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Legrady" <legrady-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> > To: <tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help > please!! > > > >>Don't use zcat to decompress a file ... use the appropriate tool, gunzip: >> >>gunzip file.tar.gz >>ls file.tar >> >>NB. gunzip -c file.tar.gz is identical to zcat/ >> >> >>He already has a backup of the tar.gz ... it's called a tape >> >>Tom >> >>Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:51:45AM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>PS - I got a dd of th last tape that ran (finally) and it is about 3.6GB >>>>(about right). I extracted it as a tar.gz (which should work) but it > > fails > >>>>claiming to not be a gzip archive... Any ideas on that front by chance? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> *MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE TAR.GZ FILE FIRST* !!! >>> >>> Straight from the man page... >>> >>> >>> >>>> tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz >>>> extract gzipped foo.tar.gz >>>> >>>> >>> >>>..did you remember the "z" parameter ? >>> >>> I've had similar problems with tar.bz2 archives. I find that doing it >>>one step at a time works. Note, you will need a *LOT* more diskspace. >>> >>>Step 1) zcat filename.tar.gz > filename.tar >>> The "zcat" executable is named "gzcat" in some versions. Use whichever >>>one works on your system. >>> >>>Step 2) tar -xvf filename.tar >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org >>TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns >>How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Madison Kelly wrote: >Hi everyone, > > Well, the fact that I am posting this after 12:00am Sunday night (and on >my birthday, to-boot!) should indicate just how dire the situation is... >I have had a drive failure on a server and I can no longer mount the >data partition on the hard drive (/dev/hda5 [ext3 under RH7.3]) because >the replacement server (Fedora Core 1) claims that the drive's >superblock is toast. > have you considered a boot linux (like knoppix) in order to move trapped data and/ or assess damage ? works for me, YYMV djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Where to buy CDs for linux distributions?
by rico.juan-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

try http://www.easylinuxcds.com On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 04:46, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > Hi! > > Do you know where I can buy CDs created from downloadable linux > distributions? > > Yes, I know I can just download and write it myself, but if the CDs can be > cheap enough, the convenience may worth the difference. > > Thanks! -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

> Madison (who has passed the 24hours mark and wishes she could just get a > break and then go home!!) Please let us know how this all turns out. I'm quite interested in the ultimate resolution! Sounds like a text book case of the typical failed drive/bad tape nightmare scenario. I've been through this kind of hell but it was when I was part of the dark side and had to restore MS boxen, or attempt to, from bad Veritas/BackupExec and/or Legato backups (though most of the time it worked). Part of the overall procedure (which mind you wasn't followed regularly for whatever reasons) was periodic restores to make sure everything would work when called upon. Nothing like having a shelf full of backups that turn out to be shitworthy in the end. Oh; I would avoid CDs for backup... I've used numerous brands across multiple writers and I'm finding that they are just not trustworthy enough over time. Some people seem to have something against tape, but I'd be far more inclined to trust DLT over CD. And keep them drives clean! It does help. My experience with using RAID (level 5 or similar levels of redundancy) is that it obviates the need for 90% of the restores I would have had to do in the past. Except, of course, people that want a restore done to get an old version of a file back. RAID is not a panacea, but who gives a shit about a busted drive or a 12 hour restore when you can just pop in a new drive with nary a hiccup? If you got the money, go RAID and complement it with a good backup system (I like DLT). Given a solid and well designed IT infrastructure, using good stuff, backups should be solid, reliable, and never, ever needed. Or for those with massive amounts of data, go SAN. While I'm rambling on, make sure you have clean electrical power, preferably backed up with a UPS. Numerous restores I've done in the past would have been avoided if the machine didn't hiccup or crash due to a brownout or power failure. They don't have to keep your boxen running for days on end, just enough time to close open files and back down gracefully. They also help for restores and backups; rather annoying when a long, long restore craps out midway through due to a power glitch. Tapes will also be more reliable if your power is clean too, but I suppose that is conjecture. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by legrady-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Don't use zcat to decompress a file ... use the appropriate tool, gunzip: gunzip file.tar.gz ls file.tar NB. gunzip -c file.tar.gz is identical to zcat/ He already has a backup of the tar.gz ... it's called a tape Tom Walter Dnes wrote: >On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:51:45AM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote > > > >>PS - I got a dd of th last tape that ran (finally) and it is about 3.6GB >>(about right). I extracted it as a tar.gz (which should work) but it fails >>claiming to not be a gzip archive... Any ideas on that front by chance? >> >> > > *MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE TAR.GZ FILE FIRST* !!! > > Straight from the man page... > > >> tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz >> extract gzipped foo.tar.gz >> >> >..did you remember the "z" parameter ? > > I've had similar problems with tar.bz2 archives. I find that doing it >one step at a time works. Note, you will need a *LOT* more diskspace. > >Step 1) zcat filename.tar.gz > filename.tar > The "zcat" executable is named "gzcat" in some versions. Use whichever >one works on your system. > >Step 2) tar -xvf filename.tar > > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Data recovery emergency on a downed server... Help please!!
by waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:51:45AM -0500, Madison Kelly wrote > PS - I got a dd of th last tape that ran (finally) and it is about 3.6GB > (about right). I extracted it as a tar.gz (which should work) but it fails > claiming to not be a gzip archive... Any ideas on that front by chance? *MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE TAR.GZ FILE FIRST* !!! Straight from the man page... > tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz > extract gzipped foo.tar.gz ..did you remember the "z" parameter ? I've had similar problems with tar.bz2 archives. I find that doing it one step at a time works. Note, you will need a *LOT* more diskspace. Step 1) zcat filename.tar.gz > filename.tar The "zcat" executable is named "gzcat" in some versions. Use whichever one works on your system. Step 2) tar -xvf filename.tar -- Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> Email users are divided into two classes; 1) Those who have effective spam-blocking 2) Those who wish they did -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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DocBook
by wildberger-iRg7kjdsKiH3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

In the directory /linux/Documentation/DocBook there are a great number of files all having the extension 'tmpl'. Presumably this stands for template. When I open anyone of these files in filemanager I see the full text all jammed together without any attempt of formatting. How can I display these pages in a reasonable manner? I found all kinds of references that deal with writing doc books, but have found so far none that would explain how to read them. Can anyone give me a hint? John -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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