December 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

Waaaay offtopic
by blsonne-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

> It's nice to imagine but if a hospital's costs go down from reduced visits > they'll just find other way to spend their budget ... sure the secretaries > need $4,000 computers with flat-screen monitors ;-) You know, I'd try and contradict you but after working in the healthcare sector I can confirm that you are more spot on than you probably realize! -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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hardware appraisal
by lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

reboot.on.ca provides charitable donation receipts when I drop off old hardware. Possibly they can assist with that dimension of your problem. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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DVD Burning and Viewing
by taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 05:28:33PM -0500, John Vetterli wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Taavi Burns wrote: > > using just the IDE driver. Your commandline starts to look something > > like this (yes, I have but one IDE channel, so hdb is my burner): > > cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdb speed=24 image.iso > > Does this setup give you problems? I was under the impression that > putting the hard-drive and cd-burner on the same ide channel could lead to > buffer underrun errors, since the controller has problems dealing with > both devices in use at the same time. It's usually a bad idea for me to go thrashing the drive while burning, and while burning the hd performance is pretty sucky anyway. Oh, and when the drive is ejecting or accepting a new disk, or while finalising a burn, hd access is impossible, leading to the system locking up on very simple tasks, if they involve something such as swapping. Other than that, my drive has BurnProof and an 8MB buffer. It doesn't coaster easily. ;) The Duron 1GHz and 120GB HD is quite sufficient to keep things in line, unlike the days of the P-133 and 4GB drives. ;) -- taa Widespread ignorance of the intimate relationships between cultural belief systems, childrearing practices and the development of violent behaviors will doom any attempts to truly understand, and prevent, violence. --Bruce D. Perry /*eof*/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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VPN question (ssh)
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

On December 21, 2003 06:28 pm, Justin Zygmont wrote: > it had a lot to do with the original type of question. I was trying > dsniff lately, which is probably my favourite packet sniffer, and I see > that it uses a man in the middle technique and does infact support ssh > version 1. I'm suprised no one has tried to add more code of their own to > compromize ssh 3.x. I don't see how that can be stopped unless they use > kerberos maybe, I always thought man in the middle was probably the best > interception technique. AFAIK, man in the middle attacks against ssh work only if the end-user is behaving badly. Part of the ssh protocol (1 or 2) involves authenticating the server. The server has a private key readable only by root, it has a public key that a user caches in ~/.ssh/known_hosts (or for all users in /etc/ssh/known_hosts). I'm no expert on public-key crtypography but I believe (roughly speaking) it works like this: - client and server agree on a string to encrypt - server encrypts string using private key and sends result to client - client checks encrypted string against the public key in it's cache ... despite not knowing the server's private key, the client can definitively know whether the string was encrypted using the correct private key That is a very rough description and I'd like to be corrected if wrong. Regardless of my description, client has ability to know definitively that it's talking to a server that has the private key that is expected. So there are a few ways that security can be compromised: - server gets broken into and someone steals private key to use in man-in-the-middle attack (they need root access to steal your key so you have big problems here quite apart from ssh) - the end user doesn't verify the key properly - the end user ignores warnings of changed keys Second point is that if you want to ensure security then you must securely populate your known hosts file. ssh'ing to a server and having the client add the public key to your known_hosts is not secure ... you can't be sure that there isn't a "man in the middle". Third point is regarding users that ignore messages like ... @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ If the machine hasn't been reinstalled then you really need to question why it's key has changed and not trust the server until you find out why and verify the new key. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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C programming question
by taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 09:34:28AM -0500, John Wildberger wrote: > "Das gefingerpoken in den Gewerken is not for Dummkopfen and is verboten." :-) ACHTUNG Das Machine ist nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Is too easy schnappen der springwerk und blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gwerkin by das dumpkofen das rubbernecken sightseeren. Keepen der hands in der pockets, relaxen und watch all der blinkelights. -- taa The most critical and formative experiences are those provided to the developing child in the incubator of the family and, optimally, by a vital, invested community. --Bruce D. Perry /*eof*/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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mp3 server
by jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

it should work ok, why not use apache 2? On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Teddy Mills wrote: > I am setting up a new RH9 system and it is blank ,except for.. > > Apache 1.329 > PHP 4.34 > MySQL 4.01 > > Im looking to make a MP3 music server. > Not a streaming server, just something to play some MP3s via Apache. > > Any recommendations? > Does someone have a working MP3 server? > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > teddy mills http://www.vger.ca > VGER directives...To collect...all that is collectable. To sell...all that > is saleable.To merchandise...all that is merchandisable. > > Family Guys Quagmire "allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll right" > Capt Tenneal "LETS GO!" > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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mp3 server
by jason-gaRZxGPHtpBxZtjKW1aY+1aTQe2KTcn/＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

http://rimps.sourceforge.net Works great for me on SuSE 9.0 pro With rimps you can stream or download to the local machine. Search, edit tags, create playlists, add media, users etc all from the web interface. User access control as well ( so my kids don't delete the mp3's they are trying to play ) Teddy Mills wrote: > I am setting up a new RH9 system and it is blank ,except for.. > > Apache 1.329 > PHP 4.34 > MySQL 4.01 > > Im looking to make a MP3 music server. > Not a streaming server, just something to play some MP3s via Apache. > > Any recommendations? > Does someone have a working MP3 server? > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > teddy mills http://www.vger.ca > VGER directives...To collect...all that is collectable. To sell...all that > is saleable.To merchandise...all that is merchandisable. > > Family Guys Quagmire "allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll right" > Capt Tenneal "LETS GO!" > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- " Eventually people tire of repairing broken Windows, And decide to replace them with something stronger" (o_ //\ Linux - The Choice Of A GNU Generation V_/_ Jason Shein Linux Registered User #281100 jason-gaRZxGPHtpBxZtjKW1aY+1aTQe2KTcn/(a)public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:08:44PM -0500, David J Patrick wrote > >You might want to read "Voodoo Science" by Dr. Robert Park or "A Demon > >Haunted World", by Carl Sagan for further info. > > I think the practice you are slagging is actually "homeopathy". Yes, > microdoses sound downright improbable, but I have to say that I have > seen it used successfully countless times over the last 30 years. > Just because we don't understand something doesn't always mean > it's bogus. OK, here's a scientifically verifiable experiment. Equipment ========= - 1 eye-dropper - 1 stirring rod - 2 shot glasses - 2 1-imperial-gallon glass containers - pour 1 imperial gallon of distilled water into 1 of the containers. - pour 6 26-ers of 100-proof whisky into the 2nd container. - take eye-dropper, grab 1 drop from the whisky container, and deposit it into the distilled water - stir the distilled water, and 1 drop of whisky, thoroughly Now comes the fun part. I'll drink 1 shot-glass of the distilled water, with very dilute whisky. You drink 1 shot-glass of the 100-proof whiskey. Repeat every 30 seconds. Last one standing wins. Since you're convinced that micro-doses are supposed to be so much more powerful, you'll surely take me up on the bet. And after you win the challenge, your next logical step will be to lobby to get the current alcohol tests for drunk-driving reversed, because the weaker the dosage, the stronger the effect. -- Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> Email users are divided into two classes; 1) Those who have effective spam-blocking 2) Those who wish they did -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Waaaay offtopic
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

On December 21, 2003 03:05 pm, Byron Sonne wrote: > > I got a flu shot this year and within 2 hours I had a 40 degree fever. I > > was sick for several days. I think I'll be passing on the opportunity > > next year. > > That is a rare reaction and it is probably much more likely that you're > reacting to the egg albumin (sp?) proteins used in the production of the > shot (I believe the strains are incubated in and farmed from eggs). I eat eggs every day so probably didn't react to that. More likely that I was already sick (I did have a (still unexplained) severe toothache prior to shot). > I've heard others use the 'my friend got the shot and caught the flu > from it' as an excuse for not getting it. That's a stupid and idiotic > reason to risk compromising public health I do think vaccinations are a good idea, that's why I got the flu shot ;-) > Think of the taxes that'll go up 'cos of more hospital visits from sick > folk, cutting down on that would be nice. It's nice to imagine but if a hospital's costs go down from reduced visits they'll just find other way to spend their budget ... sure the secretaries need $4,000 computers with flat-screen monitors ;-) -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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mp3 server
by teddymills-VFlxZYho3OA＠public.gmane.org 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

I am setting up a new RH9 system and it is blank ,except for.. Apache 1.329 PHP 4.34 MySQL 4.01 Im looking to make a MP3 music server. Not a streaming server, just something to play some MP3s via Apache. Any recommendations? Does someone have a working MP3 server? ------------------------------------------------------- teddy mills http://www.vger.ca VGER directives...To collect...all that is collectable. To sell...all that is saleable.To merchandise...all that is merchandisable. Family Guys Quagmire "allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll right" Capt Tenneal "LETS GO!" -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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