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City Of Toronto
by pmills-5bG9SNWDbRX3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

I haven't noticed any messages lately about efforts to get a Linux foothold at the City of Toronto. Anyone interested should read an article on page A14 of this morning's Globe & Mail. Quote: "The city's problem is that 14,000 of its 17,500 computers are of 1999 vintage or older, which means that the operating system they run on is Microsoft Windows NT, a program which the software company will no longer support after some time next year, and they do not have the capacity to run on the next generation of software, Windows XP, which the city plans to switch to." Tortured grammar aside, how many things "wrong" can *you* find in that sentence? :-) ........................ Phillip Mills Multi-platform software development (416) 224-0714 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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City Of Toronto
by davidjpatrick-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Phillip Mills wrote: > I haven't noticed any messages lately about efforts to get a Linux > foothold at the City of Toronto. Anyone interested should read an > article on page A14 of this morning's Globe & Mail. > > Quote: > "The city's problem is that 14,000 of its 17,500 computers are of 1999 > vintage or older, which means that the operating system they run on is > Microsoft Windows NT, a program which the software company will no > longer support after some time next year, and they do not have the > capacity to run on the next generation of software, Windows XP, which > the city plans to switch to." > > Tortured grammar aside, how many things "wrong" can *you* find in that > sentence? :-) > Yikes ! It sounds like a golden opportunity is starting to rust ! The earlier thread "Toronto Municipal Open Source Revolution, anyone ?" had a flash of enthusiasm and then very little follow through. Who else is going to champion this cause, if not us ? How can we keep the flame under this one ? djp -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Formatting in C++ (fwd)
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, John Wildberger wrote: > On December 26, 2003 03:49 pm, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > std::cout << setf(uppercase) << setw(2) << hex << (unsigned it)buf[i]; > > Peter > The setf does not seem to be supported in my distro (mdk9.1) > I did use #include <iomanip> and also > using namespace std; > The error message is: "setf undeclared (first use this function)". setf is in ios:: Maybe your implementation has it elsewhere. C++ is an interesting beast when it comes to portability ... you can try to find the definition by doing something like: (cd /usr/include; grep -E "[ \t]ios::ios" g++/*.h) which yields ios::ios in <g++/streambuf.h> on my system. good luck, Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Iptables logging under Debian
by tenger-ew0EfhANLmVEfu+5ix1nRw＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

At 00:21 2003-12-27 -0500, Terrence Enger wrote: >At 23:40 2003-12-26 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: >> If >> I'm trying to do anything while connected, I see a message each time I >> get a suspicious hit. I do want to log them, but only to file, not to >> console. I'm using log-level 6, like so... > >I think you want --log-level info. Then the messages go to, >for example, /var/log/messages. > >HTH. >Terry. Whoops, belay that answer. info is 6. Terry. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Iptables logging under Debian
by tenger-ew0EfhANLmVEfu+5ix1nRw＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

At 23:40 2003-12-26 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > If > I'm trying to do anything while connected, I see a message each time I > get a suspicious hit. I do want to log them, but only to file, not to > console. I'm using log-level 6, like so... I think you want --log-level info. Then the messages go to, for example, /var/log/messages. HTH. Terry. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Now I Know
by roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 08:48, JoeHill wrote: > On 23 Dec 2003 21:37:39 -0500 > Stephen <roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > If there is then my problem could be solved by configuring what ever it > > is that might be configured wrong. > > actually, now that I think of it, maybe send me your vid card type and the > contents of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and I'll see if there's anything that > jumps out at me. Thanks again Joe My Vid card is a Radon 7000 with I believe 64 meg of memory on it. I am attaching the file XF86Config-4 file to this email Thanks again Stephen <roulton623-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org>

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Iptables logging under Debian
by waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

How do I tone it down? Up till now I've been on ADSL (IStop), and my Netgear router has been blocking the incoming garbage on ports 135 and 80 and etc... iptables never got to see any hits. Now I'm about to move to a condo serviced by Futureway. To complicate the situation, the owners are unhappy with Futureway and have set the wheels in motion to switch from Futureway to Bell. I figure to tough it out on dialup for a couple of months and apply for IStop ADSL right after the switch to Bell. I'm using 295.ca for dialup and it works OK (Guess what their monthly rate is <g>). My only problem is that iptables is logging to the consoles and I try to stay in text console (80 x 48) as much as possible. Only apps that require a GUI get me to flip over to tty7. If I'm trying to do anything while connected, I see a message each time I get a suspicious hit. I do want to log them, but only to file, not to console. I'm using log-level 6, like so... [0:0] -A UNSOLICITED -j LOG --log-prefix "UNSOLICITED:" --log-level 6 [0:0] -A UNSOLICITED -j DROP The manpage is totally useless. I presume I have to use a different log-level, but which one ? -- Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> Email users are divided into two classes; 1) Those who have effective spam-blocking 2) Those who wish they did -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Formatting in C++ (fwd)
by wildberger-iRg7kjdsKiH3fQ9qLvQP4Q＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

On December 26, 2003 03:49 pm, Peter L. Peres wrote: > std::cout << setf(uppercase) << setw(2) << hex << (unsigned it)buf[i]; > Peter The setf does not seem to be supported in my distro (mdk9.1) I did use #include <iomanip> and also using namespace std; The error message is: "setf undeclared (first use this function)". John -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Kernel 2.6 compile: Comaptability
by jingsu-26n5VD7DAF2Tm46uYYfjYg＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

I can't remember what module in question is being discussed here... But I finally got 2.6 running on my box, with all the creature comfort options (sound, graphics, etc) running. I *think* the things that are needed are: new utils: as mentioned before, new modutils, e2fs, psutil, etc... new modutils: I think you need the newer modutils first before doing 'make module_install'. I had trouble with loading modules even with the new modutils until I recompiled and reinstalled the modules again out of frustration, at which point they worked file. renamed modules: (on my redhat box), under /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, look for the line containing: modprobe keybdev modprobe mousedev gotta replace them with modprobe uhci_hcd modprobe usbkbd modprobe usbmouse look for line containing: mount -n -t proc /proc /proc add line afterwards: mount -n -t sysfs /sys /sys (remember to make the directory /sys/ as root before rebooting) Those are the basic things I think that got the mouse and keyboard working. I'm also running Alsa using the OSS compatability. -Jing On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Paul King wrote: > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:07:01 -0500 > From: Paul King <pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> > Reply-To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org > To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Kernel 2.6 compile: Comaptability? > > Forget it. I know where it is now. > > I see that I needed to update e2fsprogs and procps, but that was tangential to > the main problem: the modules wouldn't load. I recall this was posted earlier > (by Jing Su) without much reply. I installed the latest e2fsprogs, and got the > same problem. No drivers except what was already compiled in; no mouse; no > sound. There was a complaint from modprobe about some function or other not > being present during the boot sequence. The newer version of modutils didn't > change or eliminate this error. > > e2fsprogs, FWIW, is installed in the latest version (1.35-WIP, whatever "WIP" > means). I see all my partitions, so I would suppose the "WIP" part is > unimportant in my case -- I could find nothing on the abbreviation. > > Subject: [TLUG]: Kernel 2.6 compile: Comaptability? > From: Paul King <pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> > To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org > Organization: Date sent: 26 Dec 2003 20:02:31 -0500 > Send reply to: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org > > > An earlier poster posed what was a good issue: that I ought to check my > > software for compatability with the kernel. OK, so I try to check, but > > the compatability list doesn't appear to be in its usual place. Anyone > > know where this stuff is? > > > > -- > > Paul King <pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> > > > > -- > > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > ========================================================= > Paul King http://www3.sympatico.ca/pking123/ > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Kernel 2.6 compile: Comaptability?
by pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

Forget it. I know where it is now. I see that I needed to update e2fsprogs and procps, but that was tangential to the main problem: the modules wouldn't load. I recall this was posted earlier (by Jing Su) without much reply. I installed the latest e2fsprogs, and got the same problem. No drivers except what was already compiled in; no mouse; no sound. There was a complaint from modprobe about some function or other not being present during the boot sequence. The newer version of modutils didn't change or eliminate this error. e2fsprogs, FWIW, is installed in the latest version (1.35-WIP, whatever "WIP" means). I see all my partitions, so I would suppose the "WIP" part is unimportant in my case -- I could find nothing on the abbreviation. Subject: [TLUG]: Kernel 2.6 compile: Comaptability? From: Paul King <pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Organization: Date sent: 26 Dec 2003 20:02:31 -0500 Send reply to: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org > An earlier poster posed what was a good issue: that I ought to check my > software for compatability with the kernel. OK, so I try to check, but > the compatability list doesn't appear to be in its usual place. Anyone > know where this stuff is? > > -- > Paul King <pking123-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org> > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml ========================================================= Paul King http://www3.sympatico.ca/pking123/ -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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