Data backup recommendations?

I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI? Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data? Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files.

I've been using duplicity for backups. I use the CLI, but I'm pretty sure there are GUI front ends available too. For storage, I've been using Backblaze B2 for the last few years. It's supported by rclone, which duplicity uses for data transfer, so it's pretty easy to configure duplicity to work with Backblaze B2. At half a cent per GB per month, it's reasonably priced. My monthly bill comes up to a few dollars. Backblaze B2 does have some access controls, but I encrypt my backups locally before sending them to the cloud. Duplicity works with GPG, so this is fairly straight forward to do too.
On April 22, 2020 9:02 PM Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data?
Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

rsnapshot is pretty nice and saves space -no GUI though Le sam. 25 avr. 2020 à 11:02, Stefan Kloppenborg via talk <talk@gtalug.org> a écrit :
I've been using duplicity for backups. I use the CLI, but I'm pretty sure there are GUI front ends available too.
For storage, I've been using Backblaze B2 for the last few years. It's supported by rclone, which duplicity uses for data transfer, so it's pretty easy to configure duplicity to work with Backblaze B2. At half a cent per GB per month, it's reasonably priced. My monthly bill comes up to a few dollars.
Backblaze B2 does have some access controls, but I encrypt my backups locally before sending them to the cloud. Duplicity works with GPG, so this is fairly straight forward to do too.
On April 22, 2020 9:02 PM Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data?
Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:02:45 -0400 Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Why not buy a second hard drive? My nightly backup is a 4TB drive. "Personal" means the data does not leave my house. I export my backups periodically to a 50GB Blu-Ray disc. My backup is a Bourne shell script that eventually calls up tar. -- Howard Gibson hgibson@eol.ca jhowardgibson@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson

I have a backup drive, but I'm thinking it would be better to store personal files at a second location. About 200-300GB in total. On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:05 PM Howard Gibson via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:02:45 -0400 Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Why not buy a second hard drive? My nightly backup is a 4TB drive. "Personal" means the data does not leave my house. I export my backups periodically to a 50GB Blu-Ray disc. My backup is a Bourne shell script that eventually calls up tar. -- Howard Gibson hgibson@eol.ca jhowardgibson@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:18:33 -0400 Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I have a backup drive, but I'm thinking it would be better to store personal files at a second location. About 200-300GB in total.
Gron Arthur, If my house and all around it is utterly destroyed, I lose all my data. Short of that, I should be okay. I could stores my backup Blu-Rays in a bank vault. It is too bad the local bank brances are not open. How about switching between a pair of 4TB USB drives? They live at the alternate location. One comes home to do the backup. The other stays in the outside place. -- Howard Gibson hgibson@eol.ca jhowardgibson@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson

On 2020-04-25 02:02 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:18:33 -0400 Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I have a backup drive, but I'm thinking it would be better to store personal files at a second location. About 200-300GB in total. Gron Arthur,
If my house and all around it is utterly destroyed, I lose all my data. Short of that, I should be okay. I could stores my backup Blu-Rays in a bank vault. It is too bad the local bank brances are not open.
How about switching between a pair of 4TB USB drives? They live at the alternate location. One comes home to do the backup. The other stays in the outside place.
I remember backing up to floppies! ;-)

I sort of do that now. I have a drive that I leave at a friend's place. But, it's not that convenient so;I don't end up backing up my data often enough and, now with social distancing I don't want to be dropping by people. On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:10 PM James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2020-04-25 02:02 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:18:33 -0400 Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I have a backup drive, but I'm thinking it would be better to store personal files at a second location. About 200-300GB in total. Gron Arthur,
If my house and all around it is utterly destroyed, I lose all my data. Short of that, I should be okay. I could stores my backup Blu-Rays in a bank vault. It is too bad the local bank brances are not open.
How about switching between a pair of 4TB USB drives? They live at the alternate location. One comes home to do the backup. The other stays in the outside place.
I remember backing up to floppies! ;-) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 02:02:21PM -0400, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
If my house and all around it is utterly destroyed, I lose all my data. Short of that, I should be okay. I could stores my backup Blu-Rays in a bank vault. It is too bad the local bank brances are not open.
How about switching between a pair of 4TB USB drives? They live at the alternate location. One comes home to do the backup. The other stays in the outside place.
My experience with rotating 3 disks (one offsite, another being used, one waiting onsite to be used, so only one is ever in transit and at least one is on site and one off site) was that hard disks don't like to be transported much unless they are solid state or laptop drives (and even they have limits). 3.5" drives rately lasted a year with being rotated once per week. -- Len Sorensen

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:05:31PM -0400, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
Why not buy a second hard drive? My nightly backup is a 4TB drive. "Personal" means the data does not leave my house. I export my backups periodically to a 50GB Blu-Ray disc. My backup is a Bourne shell script that eventually calls up tar.
If it's only in one location, you have no backup. :) If it has to be manually connected and manual steps taken, most people will not remember to do it. -- Len Sorensen

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:50:57 -0400 lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:05:31PM -0400, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
Why not buy a second hard drive? My nightly backup is a 4TB drive. "Personal" means the data does not leave my house. I export my backups periodically to a 50GB Blu-Ray disc. My backup is a Bourne shell script that eventually calls up tar.
If it's only in one location, you have no backup. :)
If it has to be manually connected and manual steps taken, most people will not remember to do it.
Lennart, Run a cron job. My backups to Blu-Ray are manual. -- Howard Gibson hgibson@eol.ca jhowardgibson@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020, at 21:02, Gron Arthur via talk wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data?
Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files.
On my servers I use restic[0] to backup data to Backblaze B2 [1] these days. It is a CLI only utility but once you have a simple script set up in cron it is basically maintenance free. restic can also backup data to other storage providers like Amazon S3 or a SFTP endpoint. If you are looking for a offsite SFTP storage provider I have used rsync.net [2] in the past and they are solid. [0] - https://restic.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [1] - https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html [2] - https://www.rsync.net/index.html -- Sadiq Saif https://sadiqsaif.com/

In my experience, Borg Backup is by far the most efficient and advanced backup solution. Although I prefer using Borg directly, many people choose Borgmatic [2], a Python wrapper for Borg that provides some additional niceties like pre-backup and post-backup hooks, backup of databases like PostgreSQL and MySQL/MariaDB and more. Very importantly, Borg enables backups to untrusted servers and from untrusted clients using the restricted ssh mechanism [3]. Borgmatic supports at least two hosting providers as of now [2]. Personally, I rclone my Borg backups to Amason S3. [1] https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [2] https://torsion.org/borgmatic/ [3] https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/usage/serve.html On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 21:03, Gron Arthur via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI?
Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data?
Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

I'm using "Back in Time", which is a gui front end to rsync, written to mimic Apple's "Time Machine", and can use remote storage via ssh. --dave On 2020-04-22 9:02 p.m., Gron Arthur via talk wrote: I'm looking for an easy way to backup data? What's good software to use, preferably open-source, better if it had a GUI? Where is the best place to buy some space, for storing data? Trying to modernize how I backup files personal files. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org<mailto:talk@gtalug.org> Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com<mailto:dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com> | -- Mark Twain CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including any and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any dissemination, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited and is not a waiver of confidentiality. If you have received this telecommunication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return electronic mail and delete the message from your inbox and deleted items folders. This telecommunication does not constitute an express or implied agreement to conduct transactions by electronic means, nor does it constitute a contract offer, a contract amendment or an acceptance of a contract offer. Contract terms contained in this telecommunication are subject to legal review and the completion of formal documentation and are not binding until same is confirmed in writing and has been signed by an authorized signatory.
participants (9)
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Dave Collier-Brown
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Gron Arthur
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Howard Gibson
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James Knott
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lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
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Marc Lijour
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Sadiq Saif
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Stefan Kloppenborg
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Val Kulkov