Some of this, if my landlord is correct is not a problem, he got the link for the box from bell. According to the manual, the wifi should not be a problem in theory either... if the correct information is provided, it should have wifi connection. Not sure I follow while digital would be a problem for me question though? On Mon, 22 Jan 2024, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

I'm not convinced that it will work. (I don't know that it won't.)

One clue is that Bell won't offer it to you.

Another is that the web site is for Bell's Manitoba Telephone System subsidiary. There's a good chance they use different technology since MTS started as an independant company.

If it works, it has to connect "upstream" to another box with WiFi. Will your house's Bell box inter-operate with this thing?

The TV signal will be digital all the way to the VIP2502. Is that a problem for you?

| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | To: talk@gtalug.org | Cc: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> | Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:17:04 -0500 (EST) | Subject: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item? | | hi all, | Layered times, leaving me reading more than commenting. | My landlord wishes to provide, but cannot seem to successfully secure from | bell, the box below. | | it's a basic bell cable box vip2502 | https://www.bellmts.ca/support/tv/fibe-tv/installation-and-setup/arris-vip25... | Anyone have this sitting in a closet? | Might be wise to confirm the idea will work. This entire property, even | outside, has bell fibe for home coverage including internet..But my on going | issues with them have me a bit scared. | Thanks, | Kare | Who has not given up on Over The Air, just gauging offered options. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 18:25, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:

I thought digital telephone signals were a big problem for you so I wondered if digital TV would be a similar problem.

If she were to go with "Over the Air" TV, that would be all digital, too (up to the point it's converted to analog by a converter box, if necessary). There's no analog TV in the GTA. -- Scott

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 18:57, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:

bell has provided the wrong equipment twice now.

According to Bell's web site, the receiver that is currently used for Fibe TV is the VIP2262 (presumably with the optional wireless interface). They also use the VIP5662 for 4K resolution TV but I doubt you would require the capability to receive 4K. -- Scott

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 21:17, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:

What bell's site states, and what can be provided, specifically from an access ability standpoint, are more than two different things

The VIP2262 has all the same connections as the VIP2502, including component and composite video and analog audio out, all on RCA connectors. The cases, including the front and back panels, are virtually identical between the two. -- Scott

On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 22:07, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:

Bell accessibility requires you use the apple TV 4k

I'm sorry but I'm confused. What does that have to do with the VIP2502 box that you're looking for? -- Scott

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 14:55, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:

Nothing, but you suggested I would not need 4k..bell accessibility disagrees with you, even if it does not work.

No, I said you wouldn't need a box capable of outputting 4k video resolution (3840 x 2160 pixels), like the VIP5662 is, since you don't have a 4K resolution TV. "Apple TV 4K" is the name of a specific box that Apple sells. It is capable of outputting 4K video but you don't have to use it at that resolution. I'm guessing Bell Accessibility probably uses the Apple TV 4K box because of a specific feature that it can provide, like maybe "descriptive video" audio output, or some other accessibility feature that other products don't provide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV#4K_(first_generation) -- Scott

Hi folks, Just a quick update. While bell has sent the wrong equipment twice now..still waiting for my landlord 's third request, he is allowing me to borrow the unit for a hard work related deadline. Everything connected perfectly, to my set, i have the box along with a DVD player and a VCR all hooked in running sound via a surround sound setup with my stereo. interfaces to the internet covering the property just fine as well. Do have to return it tomorrow, but if bell ever does their job providing the unit, this will be a fine solution. Thanks, Kare On Tue, 23 Jan 2024, David Ing daviding.isss--- via talk wrote:

Karen, I'm sorry that I can't provide you with the equipment.  I can provide you with information, because I have this hardware in my house.

In the livingroom, I have a VIP2262 HD PVR that works with the Bell slimline remote.  Beside that is the VAP3400 Wireless Transmitter, that serves as a bridge to receivers that connect to the television elsewhere in the house.

In the kitchen, and in the bedroom, I have a VIP2502 Wireless Receiver that is connected to a television.

In the kitchen, I used to have a small Samsung television, that had inputs of either coaxial cable, or SRGB RCA plugs.  That old television did not have an HDMI input.  So I attached the VIP2502 Wireless Receiver to the Sansung television with the three SRGB plugs.

I've since replaced that old kitchen television with a newer LG television that has an HDMI input.  The VIP2502 Wireless Receiver now takes full advantage of the HDMI quality on the LG television ... that I didn't know was missing when I had the Samsung television.

The Bell slimline remotes for each television are programmed differently:  bedroom old Samsung television; livingroom new Samsung television, kitchen new LG television.  Through the slimline remote, I can program via any television for the VIP2262 HD PVR to record, and to playback stored video.

Last year (in 2023) , we were on Fibe 500, with Fiber-to-the-House.  I discovered that after 5 years, Bell had stopped charging for this hardware.  We've had the equipment for 5 years, and I guess it's fully depreciated.  I think that when the equipment fails, I will not be able to get replacements.  When we switched from Rogers to Bell a while back, we didn't have fiber-to-the-house, and were on an ADSL modem.

Last April, we got a package upgrade to Gigabit Fibe 1.5, and new Wifi 6 pods.  The resulted in swapping out the Fibe modem, but the televisions were not impacted.

The condo where my father lives recently switched from Rogers to Bell, and so he's got the Fibe Tv box, that is an small Android device with Google Play.  This means that recorded video is saved in the cloud, not in a PVR in the home.  The major advantage for my elderly father is that he doesn't need to switch remote controls for the television and the PVR.  The disadvantage is that cloud services mean the programs can expire online, whereas the VIP2262 HD PVR has a hard drive in it.

So, if your landlord has the VIP2262 HD PVR and the VAP3400 Wireless Transmitter, it should be easy for add on another VIP2502 Wireless Receiver.

The wrinkle is that Bell probably doesn't distribute the VIP2502 Wireless Receiver to consumers, anymore.

If a customer were to upgrade from VIP2262 HD PVR to a Bell Fibe Tv Android box, I assume that Bell would send boxes to return the old equipment.

So if you're looking for a VIP2502 Wireless Receiver , you might find that from someone who either hasn't returned the equipment to Bell.  However, you want to make sure that your landlord has VIP2262 HD PVR, and isn't planning to switch to the Bell Fibe Tv Android box anytime soon.

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On 2024-01-22 17:17, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: hi all, Layered times, leaving me reading more than commenting. My landlord wishes to provide, but cannot seem to successfully secure from bell, the box below.

it's a basic bell cable box vip2502 https://www.bellmts.ca/support/tv/fibe-tv/installation-and-setup/arris-vip25... eference-guide Anyone have this sitting in a closet? Might be wise to confirm the idea will work.  This entire property, even outside, has bell fibe for home coverage including internet..But my on going issues with them have me a bit scared. Thanks, Kare Who has not given up on Over The Air, just gauging offered options.

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