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central mail
by robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Ilya Palagin wrote: > The feature you need is called IMAP, and it has to be supported by your Fortunately unix is built in a modular fashion so it just comes a matter of selecting the IMAP package of choice and installing it. > mail server. Your email client has to support IMAP as well, I'm not sure With the exception of the CLI tools mail & mailx I haven't see an MUA that didn't support IMAP in many years. > Good news - IMAP service installation is simple and described on many sites. Definately. It can be bandwidth intensive though so its use of a low pseed connection isn't recommended :) Rob -- Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert-5LEc/6Zm6xCUd8a0hrldnti2O/JbrIOy at public.gmane.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org) "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by wmcgilvery-6d3DWWOeJtE＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

If you are using a mail service form an ISP, you may not be able to use IMAP. You would have to find out by asking. You can still use POP and admittedly, it is not as good a solution as IMAP, but it will work. You can configure your mail client to leave messages on the server for a number of days or forever depending on what you want to do. Just don't let your mailbox fill up. Then go and configure the other mail client to do the same. The draw back is that your address book, sent messages etc, are not shared, only your inbox. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406? FAX www.LynchDigital.com -----Original Message----- From: Ilya Palagin [mailto:IlyaPalagin-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:32 PM To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [TLUG]: central mail Chris Aitken wrote: ... > know of a site called "Setting up Netscape Messenger to store the mail > database centrally to be accessed from any linux PC on the network" > (please Creator, let there be such a site!). : ) The feature you need is called IMAP, and it has to be supported by your mail server. Your email client has to support IMAP as well, I'm not sure about Netscape, but Mozilla does it perfectly. Good news - IMAP service installation is simple and described on many sites. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by phiscock-g851W1bGYuGnS0EtXVNi6w＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

I sympathise, many PC's these days are unbearably noisy. I got one that was unacceptably noisy and simply took it back to OTA the next day and asked for a quieter fan. They obliged. That's the easiest and simplest solution. Incidentally, a larger fan is quieter for the same volume of air because the fan blades can rotate more slowly. If a quiet fan isn't an option, there are ways to quiet the device. Basically, you have to put it in a sturdy enclosure with a labyrinth (a duct with bends in it) for the cooling air to pass through. The labyrinth is lined with absorbing material that absorbs the sound. You may have noticed a generator wagon on film shoots. The thing is generating thousands of watts of electricity from a diesel generator, there is a plum of exaust gas coming out the top, and it can hardly be heard at all. So it is absolutely possible to quiet a PC. If you like, I can provide more details, I used to do consulting in acoustics and noise reduction. Peter On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:07:15PM -0500, Chris Aitken wrote: > I have a need for my PC to be quiet. This is for three reasons: > > I have tintinitus several times a day, and when I don't the PC > reminds me what it's like - it's like tintinitus-on-demand. : / > > I am starting a business for which recording acoustic instruments > will play a large part. > > My PC is exceptionally loud - so titinuitus or not, acoustic recording > or not, it's damned loud. > > Has anyone had luck shutting their computer up? I have a lot of > start up expenses - weighted 88-key keyboard, clarinet, etc. so I'll go > to great lengths to quiet this one before I'll buy a new one. > > In the last home studio I had, I had the PC in a closet - but I'm tired > of positioning my recording/PC station to the lowest common > denominator (the short leash of mouse, keyboard, etc.) - it's > just silly. > > I guess this is a rhetorical question: Is the fan the only thing that > makes > noise? I have three fans - CPU, chassis and removeable drive bay. > > I suspected it was the removeable drive bay, so I replaced it with > another, > identical bay. No improvement - of course that doesn't prove that the > bay > is not the culprit - this brand might just have a noisy fan assembly. > And to > be completely honest, the unwanted sounds were different (but not less) > with the second bay than with the first. > > So, I guess my next step is to remove the bay and just install the hard > drive > the old-fashioned way (?). If that doesn't help it must be one of the > other two > fans (?). Or chip creep? What else is there? > > Also, I'll be in Toronto over Christmas and I could take the PC back to > Honson > - they built it for me. I hope they will work hard on it without soaking > me as they > built it. > > Chris Aitken > > > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml -- Peter D. Hiscocks Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Ryerson University, 350 Victoria Street, Toronto, Ontario, M5B 2K3, Canada Phone: (416) 979-5000 Ext 6109 Fax: (416) 979-5280 Email: phiscock-g851W1bGYuGnS0EtXVNi6w at public.gmane.org URL: http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~phiscock -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by IlyaPalagin-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Chris Aitken wrote: ... > know of a site called "Setting up Netscape Messenger to store the mail > database centrally to be accessed from any linux PC on the network" > (please Creator, let there be such a site!). : ) The feature you need is called IMAP, and it has to be supported by your mail server. Your email client has to support IMAP as well, I'm not sure about Netscape, but Mozilla does it perfectly. Good news - IMAP service installation is simple and described on many sites. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by james.knott-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Chris Aitken wrote: > I have been using Netscape Messenger for email for some time. > It has served me well. > > I now need to move to a system by which I can see the same > email from two different PCs. Sounds like a simple thing but I have > a feeling this is going to entail a huge learning curve and maybe even > moving to a different email system. > > I don't even know where to start. I know that helpless newbies are not > to be coddled on this list - I just need the first concept to > investigate > and then I'm sure that will have me chasing the right ideas - unless you > > know of a site called "Setting up Netscape Messenger to store the mail > database centrally to be accessed from any linux PC on the network" > (please Creator, let there be such a site!). : ) I have done just that. I can access my mail from any PC or almost any mail client. Install an imap mail server and use fetchmail to get your mail from a pop account. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

On December 8, 2003 07:28 pm, Chris Aitken wrote: > I now need to move to a system by which I can see the same > email from two different PCs. Use IMAP not POP. -- Fraser Campbell <fraser-Txk5XLRqZ6CsTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Reply To address messes with tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org
by john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Chris Aitken wrote: >I want the Reply To address on my outgoing email to be >whatever-KpGSJ1HvxhMWgbWefVBuadBPR1lH4CV8 at public.gmane.org >(doesn't matter what the 'whatever' is as labstudiofileld.com is just a >parked domain >which forwards any email ending with @labstudiofield.com to my >subscription >aitken-BwLjziHGQLusTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org) > >I tried this a while back and ran into problems sending/recieving email >to/from tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org, >if I recall correctly. > >Any ideas? > >I use Netscape email. > It's done in the Preferences settings. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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quiet PC
by kmastin-PzQIwG9Jn9VAFePFGvp55w＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

> I guess this is a rhetorical question: Is the fan the only thing that > makes noise? I have three fans - CPU, chassis and removeable drive > bay. Unlock the bay and boot.. it will tell you almost right away in most cases. > I suspected it was the removeable drive bay, so I replaced it with > another, identical bay. No improvement - of course that doesn't > prove that the bay is not the culprit - this brand might just have > a noisy fan assembly. If it's a plastic bay with a fan in back, it's a good guess. I have a couple in a machine that start making hell's racket from time to time. Aluminum are the best, but if you tell the vendor about the quitness you're looking for they should be able to test it in front of you before you buy. > And to be completely honest, the unwanted sounds were different > (but not less) with the second bay than with the first. Drive bay. Your sound room should be isolated from the electronics in any event for best sound quality, especially with digital recording. Sometimes even an amp fan makes a difference. -- Keith -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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central mail
by john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Chris Aitken wrote: >I have been using Netscape Messenger for email for some time. >It has served me well. > >I now need to move to a system by which I can see the same >email from two different PCs. Sounds like a simple thing but I have >a feeling this is going to entail a huge learning curve and maybe even >moving to a different email system. > >I don't even know where to start. I know that helpless newbies are not >to be coddled on this list - I just need the first concept to >investigate >and then I'm sure that will have me chasing the right ideas - unless you > >know of a site called "Setting up Netscape Messenger to store the mail >database centrally to be accessed from any linux PC on the network" >(please Creator, let there be such a site!). : ) > >Chris > > IMAP has been suggested, or you can set the local mail in Netscape preferences of both PCs to point to the same Mail directory. You need to set up permissions properly. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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*Really* bad week for SCO
by awh-z32R3RYGf1M＠public.gmane.org 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:11:57PM -0500, Ian Goldberg wrote: > Shorting a stock is trivially easy. Just go to your friendly online > broker website, and sell some. Assuming, of course, that you have a margin account and are approved for short selling. > [Note: not all stocks are allowed to be > shorted, but I don't think SCOX is one of them.] In Canada, I think that the IDA rule is that stocks less than about $3.00 can't be shorted. Of course individual dealers are allowed to set their rules to be more restrictive than the IDA's. > But if instead, unbeknownst to everyone, SCOX has been using the lawsuit > as a smokescreen to hide its super-secret research efforts into > real-time widget operating systems, and announces the Best Thing Ever (TM), > its stock price may jump to $50, and if you hold -100 of them, you'll > now have to pay $5000 to close out your position, and you're in the hole big > time. Yes. The problem with short selling is that there is a (theoretically) infinite exposure, and a maximum possible upside. With your original example, the maximum possible upside is the $1500 that you short-sold the stock for, since the stock price can't go negative (no matter how much some people on this list may pray). But theoretically the stock price could rise to infinity. This is why, if you're bearish on a particular stock, it may be better to buy put options. At least your loss is limited to the market value of the puts at the time of purchase. That said, the put options would have greater price volatility than the actual stock. - awh -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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