August 2003 - Legacy - lists.gtalug.org

Code Monkey???
by matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Emir <emir-rdkfGonbjUTTQjIoRn/dzw at public.gmane.org> writes: > Rick Tomaschuk wrote: > | Get a wife and have some kids. Sounds like you have some sort of void > | in your life. ;>) > > So one should get married and have kids not for the love of their partner but > to fill a void in their life? Is that why *you* got married? Lots of guys get married hoping that they can consistently 'fill a void' ;) I only say that because I know that I can't offend anyone that is still reading this stupid thread. -- matthew rice <matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. phone: 905-771-0017 x242 thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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A Canadian Response to SCO
by matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ＠public.gmane.org 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Max Blanco <blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F at public.gmane.org> writes: > Can I read somewhere about how this issue affects the little guy? > I have a 1995 distro of redhat. Does this affect me? > What about if I have a 2.2 kernel built in 2000? Check out: http://www.linux.ca/clic/ There is an FAQ there. If you need information that isn't there or linked from there, let me [or the group know] and we'll add it. -- matthew rice <matt-s/rLXaiAEBtBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> starnix inc. phone: 905-771-0017 x242 thornhill, ontario, canada http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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demystification of "chat" - re: /dev/tty* + modem test logic
by blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F＠public.gmane.org 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Thanks to Tim and Peter for their demystification of the "chat" command. My test logic made no sense as I tried vainly to set up my modem: I had thought "chat" looked at "/dev/modem" implicitly. Not so - see below. A better logic (?) is at end. Tim Writer wrote: > Max Blanco <blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F at public.gmane.org> writes: > > > Through which /dev port does "chat" cmd look? > > > > I can't find this info anywhere in the chat man page. There exists no > > "usr/share/doc/chat" directory. > > I believe it reads from standard input and writes to standard output. > If you're using it with PPP, pppd arranges to connect its standard input > and standard output to the relevant tty. On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > chat talk to its stdin and stdout but it will not work stand-alone, as in: > > chat "" ATZ OK </dev/modem >/dev/modem > > because the line disipline and buffering need to be set. pppd does this > before calling chat. calling chat as above will fail on any machine, in > despite of working modem etc. The call will hang (can be interrupted with > ^C). > I would appreciate helpful comments on this...: ---begin untested perl code: "/usr/bin/mdmtst"--- #!/usr/bin/perl print STDOUT "mdmtst: program to test your modem.\n"; print STDOUT "\tuse at own risk\n"; #dialout string: $mdmstrng="ATL1DT4165551212\n"; print STDOUT "\tusing: $mdmstrng\n"; #dmesg check: $dmesg=`dmesg | grep tty`; print STDOUT "Your kernel says (man dmesg)\n$dmesg\n"; #tests: &mdmctl("ttyS"); print STDOUT "...deprecated /dev/cua* for ancient distros...\n"; &mdmctl("cua"); print STDOUT "Modem test finished.\n"; sub mdmctl { my $prefix=$@; print STDOUT "Testing: $prefix\*\n"; for $i (0..3) { print STDOUT "\t\/dev\/$prefix$i\n"; open (MDM,">/dev/$prefix$i") or die; print MDM $mdmstrng; sleep(2); close (MDM); } print STDOUT "Done $prefix\* tests.\n"; } ---end untested perl code--- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO.com and Caldera.com dead?
by rickl-ZACYGPecefkNbK0NzMECUg＠public.gmane.org 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

While I hate to keep taking SCO's side in things since I fully support the Linux movement I don't think any of SCO's long time customers care wheather or not SCO's web site is up or not since Openserver has some machines with verified uptimes of 5, 10 and 17+ years without reboot. If any machine is repeatedly attacked by professionals it will crash. RickT On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:32:27 -0400, John Myshrall <jmyshrall-6duGhz7i8susTnJN9+BGXg at public.gmane.org> wrote : > On August 24, 2003 10:01 am, Emir wrote: > > > Paul Osman wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > > >>Hi all, > > >> > > >> I know there was a thread on SCO so this may already have been > > >>pointed out but if so, I missed it. It looks like the SCO and Caldera > > >>websites are gone and have been for several hours now. Curiously, it > > >>follows after two days of steady rise in SCOX share price. A rumour we > > >>didn't know about? > > >> > > >>Madison > > > > > > I wonder what their customers think now that they can't even access their > > > website. Fucking losers... honestly. > > > > ...and by "customers" I assume you mean "defendents"? > > See what ESR has to say > > http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003082400126NWCYLL > > > John > > > > > > > > -- > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml > > > -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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HP692
by mr.mcgregor-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

You might try the HP Inkjet Project at Sourceforge for a suitable driver. http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ John McGregor -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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SCO.com and Caldera.com dead?
by jmyshrall-6duGhz7i8susTnJN9+BGXg＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

On August 24, 2003 10:01 am, Emir wrote: > Paul Osman wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Madison Kelly wrote: > >>Hi all, > >> > >> I know there was a thread on SCO so this may already have been > >>pointed out but if so, I missed it. It looks like the SCO and Caldera > >>websites are gone and have been for several hours now. Curiously, it > >>follows after two days of steady rise in SCOX share price. A rumour we > >>didn't know about? > >> > >>Madison > > > > I wonder what their customers think now that they can't even access their > > website. Fucking losers... honestly. > > ...and by "customers" I assume you mean "defendents"? See what ESR has to say http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003082400126NWCYLL John -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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debian/woody powrpc + /dev/lp* + serial port: /dev/ttyS1
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Max Blanco wrote: > The faqs.org says 9600 baud is the going rate, yet when I tried to > setserial, my keyboard fubarred and I had to reboot. ?! why would that happen ? Maybe you are trying to write to the wrong port ? I do not know what the tty keyboard looks like on a Mac but if you tried to configure that or a UART (Z8530) shared with it then it would explain it. You also want to see the manpage of stty wrt. settings for manual testing like buffering etc. If the printer is post script then the raw text you send will cause the interpreter to curl up and die. Try to send a short ps file. Like man man -Tps >/dev/wherever. Even this may not work if the printer requires JCL control to enter PS mode or xon/xoff handshake. You have to find some info on your printer. A captured printer file from another Mac with the same printer would help a lot. Have you tried to look at the printer's answers ? As in cat </dev/theprinter|od -a ? Try this after turning it off and on again. You can test the port completely and maybe talk to the printer for testing using minicom, since it is serial. good luck, Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Good news: blender is now free
by plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

The 3d rendering and animation package is now (and has been for a while ?) free and open source. Go to: www.blender3d.org Peter -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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debian/woody powrpc + /dev/lp* + serial port: /dev/ttyS1
by blanco-S8qYAnHmZTt34ZA5RureAJ4VBq8PJc8F＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Max Blanco wrote: > > > Yet when I do > > # cat > /dev/ttyS1 > > The quick brown fox. > > <ctrl-d> > > > > nothing comes out the printhead. Yes, I do have it "online". No, I > > haven't ever had it work with the macos: I am unable (terminally) to work > > with iconic macos. > > It may need a page flush to start moving. > whazzat? ctrl-L? > > Does Imagewriter II have a powerup self-test in eeprom (like various HP > > devices I've known?) If so, how do I gain access? > > Most (all) intelligent printers have one (winprinters aren't intelligent). > Try to hold the button(s) down while cycling the power. Hold them for at > least 5 seconds. Try different combinations or look on the internet for > more data. These pages helped: <LI><a href="http://www.faqs.org/faqs/apple2/faq/part18/">Apple II Csa2 FAQs: Printers, Part 18/25</a> <LI><a href="http://www.aviators.stark.k12.oh.us/Tech/imagewriter.html">Imagewriter.html</a> I got it to do a self-test by holding pwr and ff buttons while starting up. That part works, so I have a functional peripheral. > > PS If anyone has a working /etc/printcap for a serial port mac printer, > > I'd appreciate you posting it. > > I am sure that you will find one on the net. The 68k Linux users must have > managed this a long time ago. > Odd, google couldn't find any with my search strings. Printing-Howto's galore, but no valuable info therein. > FYI the most often encountered nonworking peripheral problem is a bad > cable. If you see that things do not behave as they should try another > cable first, then everything else. The faqs.org 18/25 printer page (ref above) said the same thing. I did a continuity test and my cable is indeed working. Mine is NOT a "straight-through" cable. The correct type of cable for my imagewriter II is NOT straight-through according to faqs.org. I suspect it to be a setserial problem. The faqs.org says 9600 baud is the going rate, yet when I tried to setserial, my keyboard fubarred and I had to reboot. TIA, max. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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Help rebuilding Redhat 9 rpm database
by kmastin-PzQIwG9Jn9VAFePFGvp55w＠public.gmane.org 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

> My other machine, a 4-year-old Dell of mine, runs OK except that the > harddrive has recently begun showing more bad blocks than than a Toronto > Argonauts highlight reel. So I went and bought a new drive. I RTFM'd > and set the jumper to Master and swapped drives. Then I thought I'd try > putting Redhat 9 on the system while I was at it. The install went OK, > and the check for bad blocks didn't find anything. I decided to remove > Postfix as the mail agent and replace it with ssmtp. Then rpm whined > about how mutt depended on Postfix. I did a --nodeps removal of > Postfix, and rpm froze. I popped open another tty and killed rpm. > > Then I tried rebuilding the rpm database from scratch. Two hours ago, > I did "rpm -vv --initdb". The response on the screen was... > > D: opening db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages joinenv > D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages create mode=0x42 > > Nothing further since then. Is this a long process on a 450 mhz > machine, or are things so badly hosed that I should re-install ? You did rpm --rebuilddb, right? Might be hosed. If you don't have a big investment in the machine already, might be a good time to reinstall. IIRC ssmtp and postfix can live on a system together. Just do postfix stop and start ssmtp. -- Keith Mastin BeechTree Information Technology Services Inc. Toronto, Canada (416)696 6070 -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://tlug.ss.org TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://tlug.ss.org/subscribe.shtml

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