Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry PI wifi problem

LOL Evan, I've been waiting for your follow-up. You had to know that your comment would solicit replies.
As many TLUGers know I've been following the issue for a long time, at one point being the ZDNet writer on open source for more than 100 columns. I heard a crapload about the frustrations of people -- non-technical people. who didn't want to hear about downloading firmwares and relinking kernels. The original mail reflected the fact that personally, I continue to find networking more difficult to use on Linux desktops than on Windows or Macs. Why, for instance, should the end-user be expected to know what kind of wifi authentication protocol is in use? Who cares? Win and Mac just try them all till one works, assuming the credentials are right. Oh well, at least it's not as bad as the sound configuration. And Linux always had windowing and multitasking right. In any case, the point is moot. It is fully irrelevant whether or not Linux ever does better on the PC desktop than it has. Linux dominates on mobile and server and has become more than mainstream. Now Microsoft is the one struggling for compatibility, and the Unix wars are long behind us (notwithstanding what has evolved into a friendly niche rivalry with BSD). But I swear.... if Android phones had required PulseAudio, we'd all still be using Symbian. -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto, Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

On August 25, 2017 11:38:11 AM EDT, Evan Leibovitch via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
LOL Evan, I've been waiting for your follow-up. You had to know that your comment would solicit replies.
As many TLUGers know I've been following the issue for a long time, at one point being the ZDNet writer on open source for more than 100 columns. I heard a crapload about the frustrations of people -- non-technical people. who didn't want to hear about downloading firmwares and relinking kernels.
The original mail reflected the fact that personally, I continue to find networking more difficult to use on Linux desktops than on Windows or Macs. Why, for instance, should the end-user be expected to know what kind of wifi authentication protocol is in use? Who cares? Win and Mac just try them all till one works, assuming the credentials are right.
Oh well, at least it's not as bad as the sound configuration. And Linux always had windowing and multitasking right.
In any case, the point is moot. It is fully irrelevant whether or not Linux ever does better on the PC desktop than it has. Linux dominates on mobile and server and has become more than mainstream. Now Microsoft is the one struggling for compatibility, and the Unix wars are long behind us (notwithstanding what has evolved into a friendly niche rivalry with BSD).
But I swear.... if Android phones had required PulseAudio, we'd all still be using Symbian.
Ouuucch, thats gotta hurt. But be careful what you wish for. Remember when the mantra was "Linux World Domination" Then it happened. Now, as far as init goes, it seem there are those with the Lennartware sucks mantra. No kidding, I read that in an answer on Quora. I'm not particularly in any one camp but, its kind of hard to think that someone building a sound server, wouldn't understand at the time; you don't turn on the power amp until the mixer pre-amp is powered up and the gain is at 0. In practice you don't just run the amp with no load, just as you don't power up the mixer with the onboard pre-amp output on. Thats also an historical issue now addressed apparently. I still use a toolbar button to quick mute. amixer sset Master toggle My biggest nice to have feature would be a comprehensive source of ICC lookup tables for linux. I wouldn't have to stop cups to be able to scan with my MFU. Darnd thing throws off paper feed errors and although I've never used it with windows and based on some reports I've read, I've got a feeling that the ink tank contents data, which changes quite a bit, looks like an unrecognizable colour profile to xsane, instead of a scanner. Just a hunch tho. -- Russell Sent by K-9 Mail

(subject changed from "Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry PI wifi problem") On 2017-08-25 03:49 PM, Russell via talk wrote:
My biggest nice to have feature would be a comprehensive source of ICC lookup tables for linux.
If you're meaning for scanners, generic manufacturer ones are kind of useless. Light sources age and shift, and so your generic calibration becomes less and less useful. If you have to have one of these files, dig about in the Windows or Mac driver package, as there's usually one there. With an ICC target — Wolf Faust sells cheap but good ones from http://www.targets.coloraid.de/ — it's easy to calibrate a scanner. I've always meant to a.) do a lightning talk on colour management; b.) arrange a group buy of scanner targets. Wolf sells them *very* cheap if you're shipping more than one. I have a spare (stored in the dark, unused, technically expired but good enough) ITU target if anyone wants one. Wolf makes targets for the big repro companies, so his stuff is good. He's also been writing printer drivers since the early 1990s. You might also be surprised at what's living in /usr/share/color/icc already …
I wouldn't have to stop cups to be able to scan with my MFU.
Is your AIO networked, or connected via USB? cups tends to hog the whole device over USB. xsane finds my networked Epson, but annoyingly all drivers (perhaps the hardware itself) can only scan at 8 bpp. Stewart
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