Experience Upgrading From Fedora 24 to Fedora 25
Hello All, I've been using Fedora for a few years on my primary workstation, though I use Debian (stable) for servers. Whenever Fedora released a new major version, I'd do a fresh install, which based on past experience with attempts to upgrade in place was the best way. I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed. Hardware specs, in case you're wondering, are as follows. ASUS P755D with Intel i5-750 CPU, 16GB RAM /boot, /, and swap on a 120GB Samsung 750 EVO SSD /home on a 960GB SanDisk SSD /data on an 8TB Western Digital Red HDD nVidia 960GT video card (using nouveau driver) -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay + 1 647-778-8696
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
Hello All,
I've been using Fedora for a few years on my primary workstation, though I use Debian (stable) for servers. Whenever Fedora released a new major version, I'd do a fresh install, which based on past experience with attempts to upgrade in place was the best way.
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
Hardware specs, in case you're wondering, are as follows.
ASUS P755D with Intel i5-750 CPU, 16GB RAM
/boot, /, and swap on a 120GB Samsung 750 EVO SSD /home on a 960GB SanDisk SSD /data on an 8TB Western Digital Red HDD
nVidia 960GT video card (using nouveau driver)
I upgraded my Thinkpad 13 travel laptop from 24 to 25. It took more than 20 minutes, being lower power, but it went off without a hitch. -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education?
I have always had the same positive experience with the Fedora upgrades as well as Linuxmint upgrades. On reading Clifford's experience, I took the plunge as well and it worked great. Took longer on my 32bit box with dual core Intel cpu and 3 gigs of ram along with a lot of stuff to upgrade e.g. my Hadoop account, Python stuff. This is not the first time that I have used this approach and it always worked really well for me. My two bits --------- Clive DaSilva – cdasilva@iprimus.ca Mailing List - talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -----Original Message----- From: talk [mailto:talk-bounces@gtalug.org] On Behalf Of CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:13 PM To: talk@gtalug.org Subject: [GTALUG] Experience Upgrading From Fedora 24 to Fedora 25 Hello All, I've been using Fedora for a few years on my primary workstation, though I use Debian (stable) for servers. Whenever Fedora released a new major version, I'd do a fresh install, which based on past experience with attempts to upgrade in place was the best way. I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed. Hardware specs, in case you're wondering, are as follows. ASUS P755D with Intel i5-750 CPU, 16GB RAM /boot, /, and swap on a 120GB Samsung 750 EVO SSD /home on a 960GB SanDisk SSD /data on an 8TB Western Digital Red HDD nVidia 960GT video card (using nouveau driver) -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay + 1 647-778-8696 --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
I have a little do nothing arm system stashed away that I only interact with remotely. https://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_A1000 Allwinner A10 single core with 512MB of RAM. I did the initial install on Fedora 23, previously upgraded this way to 24, and just yesterday to 25. All remotely, rebooting without hiccup. I've also done the 23 => 24 Jump on a T-420 thinkpad I own. And will likely do the 24 => 25 jump after posting this. -- Scott Sullivan
Odd follow up to this. While doing that T-420, I also performed the upgrade on my daily laptop. Although what I failed to notice was that I jumped directly from 23 => 25, skipping 24. D'oh! Thankfully, the transition went very well from my perspective. Been running the last whole week without issues. This is with third-party repos like RPM Fusion, Dropbox, Chrome, Adobe, and some Fedora COPR repos as well. Your millage may very, but it interesting to see the result in my case. On 27/11/16 03:12 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
I have a little do nothing arm system stashed away that I only interact with remotely.
https://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_A1000 Allwinner A10 single core with 512MB of RAM.
I did the initial install on Fedora 23, previously upgraded this way to 24, and just yesterday to 25. All remotely, rebooting without hiccup.
I've also done the 23 => 24 Jump on a T-420 thinkpad I own. And will likely do the 24 => 25 jump after posting this.
I updated my netbooks first, then my T440, and both went off without a hitch. --dave On 06/12/16 04:55 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
Odd follow up to this.
While doing that T-420, I also performed the upgrade on my daily laptop. Although what I failed to notice was that I jumped directly from 23 => 25, skipping 24. D'oh!
Thankfully, the transition went very well from my perspective. Been running the last whole week without issues. This is with third-party repos like RPM Fusion, Dropbox, Chrome, Adobe, and some Fedora COPR repos as well.
Your millage may very, but it interesting to see the result in my case.
On 27/11/16 03:12 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
I have a little do nothing arm system stashed away that I only interact with remotely.
https://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_A1000 Allwinner A10 single core with 512MB of RAM.
I did the initial install on Fedora 23, previously upgraded this way to 24, and just yesterday to 25. All remotely, rebooting without hiccup.
I've also done the 23 => 24 Jump on a T-420 thinkpad I own. And will likely do the 24 => 25 jump after posting this.
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Is it better to have RHEL instead of Fedora as a regular desktop if you're a dev? Red Hat is giving out free (as in beer) versions for devs: https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/03/31/no-cost-rhel-developer-subscri... On 2016-12-06 04:55 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
Odd follow up to this.
While doing that T-420, I also performed the upgrade on my daily laptop. Although what I failed to notice was that I jumped directly from 23 => 25, skipping 24. D'oh!
Thankfully, the transition went very well from my perspective. Been running the last whole week without issues. This is with third-party repos like RPM Fusion, Dropbox, Chrome, Adobe, and some Fedora COPR repos as well.
Your millage may very, but it interesting to see the result in my case.
On 27/11/16 03:12 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
I have a little do nothing arm system stashed away that I only interact with remotely.
https://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_A1000 Allwinner A10 single core with 512MB of RAM.
I did the initial install on Fedora 23, previously upgraded this way to 24, and just yesterday to 25. All remotely, rebooting without hiccup.
I've also done the 23 => 24 Jump on a T-420 thinkpad I own. And will likely do the 24 => 25 jump after posting this.
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Fedora is good for a developer, redhat as a production target. I like to run a copy of my production system on a VM (actually on more then one) so I don't break dev or pollute prod. --dave On 06/12/16 10:19 PM, Marc Lijour via talk wrote:
Is it better to have RHEL instead of Fedora as a regular desktop if you're a dev? Red Hat is giving out free (as in beer) versions for devs: https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/03/31/no-cost-rhel-developer-subscri...
On 2016-12-06 04:55 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
Odd follow up to this.
While doing that T-420, I also performed the upgrade on my daily laptop. Although what I failed to notice was that I jumped directly from 23 => 25, skipping 24. D'oh!
Thankfully, the transition went very well from my perspective. Been running the last whole week without issues. This is with third-party repos like RPM Fusion, Dropbox, Chrome, Adobe, and some Fedora COPR repos as well.
Your millage may very, but it interesting to see the result in my case.
On 27/11/16 03:12 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
On 24/11/16 07:12 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk wrote:
I just followed the directions here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed.
I have a little do nothing arm system stashed away that I only interact with remotely.
https://linux-sunxi.org/Mele_A1000 Allwinner A10 single core with 512MB of RAM.
I did the initial install on Fedora 23, previously upgraded this way to 24, and just yesterday to 25. All remotely, rebooting without hiccup.
I've also done the 23 => 24 Jump on a T-420 thinkpad I own. And will likely do the 24 => 25 jump after posting this.
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-- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain
| From: Marc Lijour via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | Is it better to have RHEL instead of Fedora as a regular desktop if you're a | dev? | Red Hat is giving out free (as in beer) versions for devs: | https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/03/31/no-cost-rhel-developer-subscri... I imagine that I'd be happier with free/libre CentOS rather than free-beer RHEL. CentOS is a bit slower with updates. It depends what you value. If you are deploying on RHEL, you need to test on RHEL. But Fedora has more creature comforts and moves more quickly. I use CentOS for servers and Fedora for my own desktop. Sometimes I use Ubuntu LTS for other people's desktops. But I'm not a conventional developer so I don't feel the same forces.
| From: CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | I just followed the directions here | <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade> to upgrade from 24 to 25. | Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed. I've done perhaps four systems that way. Only one got into a problem. That system (my main desktop) uses the proprietary Nvidia driver. The reason is that Nouveau didn't seem to be able to drive my 4k monitor with my curreent GX 650 card and the proprietary driver can. I get the nvidia driver from rpmfusion, all niceley packaged for Fedora. When I did the in-place update, for some reason the rpmfusion repositories were removed. After that, the existing nvidia driver was obsolete, didn't match the kernel, and could not be updated. It took me a while to figure out what was going wrong. Once I did, all I had to do was re-add the rpmfusion repositories and do and update the system. PS: one source of typos in my messages is that my mechanical keyboard, spec'ed for several lifetimes worth of keystrokes, has a failing e key. Of course the actual warranty period (1 year) is long dead. I'm not willing to follow these leads: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsby_(novel)> La Desparaton by <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec> (I found the second link fascinating. Knuth lists another work by the same author as "perhaps the greatest 20th century novel" <http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/retd.html>)
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CLIFFORD ILKAY -
Clive DaSilva -
D. Hugh Redelmeier -
David Collier-Brown -
Digimer -
Marc Lijour -
Scott Sullivan