hobbyist web hosting recommendations?

I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations? Thanks! Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/

On 12/20/15 21:14, Stephen wrote:
On 15-12-20 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
I have been with hostpapa for many years, and I am happy with them
Thank you for the recommendation, Stephen! kind regards, Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/

On 12/20/15 21:19, James Knott wrote:
On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server.
That's definitely an option, thanks for the suggestion, Mr. Knott. I currently use free WordPress, free Google web hosting, as well as a free wiki.wiki account. I don't see a reason to bring this in-house for now, I basically just serve static content, not doing any e-commerce... the price is right, but can I do better? I have to ask myself what can I achieve with as little server maintenance as possible and maximize availability, while spending something I'm comfortable with? For the pricing I'm seeing, and also for the pricing I'm not seeing (try to figure out costs from places that price by the hour, and throw in a monthly "service" fee), and the benefits of having a web site hosted in a data center, I think that buying a web hosting plan could potentially be very cost-effective. I could set up the server (GNU/Linux or OpenBSD), but I have limited free time. thanks for your time, Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/

On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations? Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server. Making my own interests me, mainly for the experience. I'm not a computer guy but did set up a file server for the house at one point and would like to do it again. Adding a web server would be an interesting
On 12/20/2015 09:19 PM, James Knott wrote: project, although it might be too much for my skill level. My first thought... what would be the impact wrt the service provider? Naturally I'd need a company that allows accessing servers, so am wondering if it would end up costing me more than using a web hosting company. I need something for an income tax preparation business that I have started, so this is a timely thread for me. John.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, John Moniz wrote:
On 12/20/2015 09:19 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations? Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server. Making my own interests me, mainly for the experience. I'm not a computer guy but did set up a file server for the house at one point and would like to do it again. Adding a web server would be an interesting project, although it might be too much for my skill level.
Most distros have a webserver installed, if not by default, then selectable through whatever package management tool you use. I have Apache running on the laptop I'm currently using as my main machine. I develop my sites locally and then upload them to hostgator when ready. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com>

You may also want to check out dreamhost.com if you don't mind using a US based service. You get shell access with their standard hosting plan and they seem to offer unlimited everything (data storage, data use, hosted web sites, users, etc.). You get one free domain and, I believe, unlimited subdomains ("something.dreamhosters.com") which are great for experimenting, informal blogging, etc.. I use the shell access regularly for socks proxy browsing and watching US based entertainment. If you are not in a rush, I suggest waiting for one of their promotions. I literally paid something like $10 for an entire year when I first started using them. Also, the lifehacker.com blog usually reports when they have a deal on or when lifehacker themselves have a Dreamhost promotion code that readers can use. On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson <chris@cfajohnson.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, John Moniz wrote:
On 12/20/2015 09:19 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server.
Making my own interests me, mainly for the experience. I'm not a computer guy but did set up a file server for the house at one point and would like to do it again. Adding a web server would be an interesting project, although it might be too much for my skill level.
Most distros have a webserver installed, if not by default, then selectable through whatever package management tool you use.
I have Apache running on the laptop I'm currently using as my main machine. I develop my sites locally and then upload them to hostgator when ready.
-- Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com>
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Thanks to everyone who responded with a serious, constructive reply. I used to work in the industry. When I can have access to shared hosting for 1.15 a month for the first year, and 3.24 a month thereafter, for up to three web sites, then that seems to me to be worth a look. Of course, I need to review all these recommendations for companies to see what best serves my computing needs. Thanks again! Daniel Villarreal On 12/21/15 17:26, Nigel Auger wrote:
You may also want to check out dreamhost.com <http://dreamhost.com> if you don't mind using a US based service. You get shell access with their standard hosting plan and they seem to offer unlimited everything (data storage, data use, hosted web sites, users, etc.). You get one free domain and, I believe, unlimited subdomains ("something.dreamhosters.com <http://something.dreamhosters.com>") which are great for experimenting, informal blogging, etc.. I use the shell access regularly for socks proxy browsing and watching US based entertainment. If you are not in a rush, I suggest waiting for one of their promotions. I literally paid something like $10 for an entire year when I first started using them. Also, the lifehacker.com <http://lifehacker.com> blog usually reports when they have a deal on or when lifehacker themselves have a Dreamhost promotion code that readers can use.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson <chris@cfajohnson.com <mailto:chris@cfajohnson.com>> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, John Moniz wrote:
On 12/20/2015 09:19 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server.
Making my own interests me, mainly for the experience. I'm not a computer guy but did set up a file server for the house at one point and would like to do it again. Adding a web server would be an interesting project, although it might be too much for my skill level.
Most distros have a webserver installed, if not by default, then selectable through whatever package management tool you use.
I have Apache running on the laptop I'm currently using as my main machine. I develop my sites locally and then upload them to hostgator when ready.
-- Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com>
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org <mailto:talk@gtalug.org> http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've heard nice things about CloudAtCost http://www.cloudatcost.com/ - -- One price ($35) for a VPS forever. Local to Waterloo, so no foreign interception worries. I have to admit I haven't used CloudAtCost since I self-host as much as I can. But it might be nice to experiment with. I've used shared hosting from CCj/Clearline http://ccjclearline.com/hosting.html (also local to Waterloo) -- Both easier and more difficult because they take care of OS and application upgrades & installation. - --Bob. On 21/12/15 06:08 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
Thanks to everyone who responded with a serious, constructive reply.
I used to work in the industry. When I can have access to shared hosting for 1.15 a month for the first year, and 3.24 a month thereafter, for up to three web sites, then that seems to me to be worth a look.
Of course, I need to review all these recommendations for companies to see what best serves my computing needs.
Thanks again! Daniel Villarreal
On 12/21/15 17:26, Nigel Auger wrote:
You may also want to check out dreamhost.com <http://dreamhost.com> if you don't mind using a US based service. You get shell access with their standard hosting plan and they seem to offer unlimited everything (data storage, data use, hosted web sites, users, etc.). You get one free domain and, I believe, unlimited subdomains ("something.dreamhosters.com <http://something.dreamhosters.com>") which are great for experimenting, informal blogging, etc.. I use the shell access regularly for socks proxy browsing and watching US based entertainment. If you are not in a rush, I suggest waiting for one of their promotions. I literally paid something like $10 for an entire year when I first started using them. Also, the lifehacker.com <http://lifehacker.com> blog usually reports when they have a deal on or when lifehacker themselves have a Dreamhost promotion code that readers can use.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson <chris@cfajohnson.com <mailto:chris@cfajohnson.com>> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, John Moniz wrote:
On 12/20/2015 09:19 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/20/2015 06:28 PM, Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Why not make your own? A Linux box makes an excellent server.
Making my own interests me, mainly for the experience. I'm not a computer guy but did set up a file server for the house at one point and would like to do it again. Adding a web server would be an interesting project, although it might be too much for my skill level.
Most distros have a webserver installed, if not by default, then selectable through whatever package management tool you use.
I have Apache running on the laptop I'm currently using as my main machine. I develop my sites locally and then upload them to hostgator when ready.
-- Chris F.A. Johnson, <http://cfajohnson.com>
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Since I moved to hostgator, got great prices with excellent uptime. Also, the suppport was always amazing. You could at least check their prices and benefits. ;) On Dec 20, 2015 6:28 PM, "Daniel Villarreal" <youcanlinux@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks! Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/ --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

On 12/21/15 08:08, Marcelo Cavalcante wrote:
Since I moved to hostgator, got great prices with excellent uptime. Also, the suppport was always amazing.
You could at least check their prices and benefits. ;)
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks, Mr. Cavalcante! I'll look into it. have fun! Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/

On Dec 20, 2015 6:28 PM, "Daniel Villarreal" <youcanlinux@gmail.com <mailto:youcanlinux@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
I'm using Canadian Web Hosting (https://login.canadianwebhosting.com/) and have been for several years. I wanted to use a Canadian company so I wouldn't have to worry about some of the laws the US government put in place in regards to the Internet and US hosted content. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | --Chris Hardwick

On 21/12/15 09:07 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
On Dec 20, 2015 6:28 PM, "Daniel Villarreal" <youcanlinux@gmail.com <mailto:youcanlinux@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
I'm using Canadian Web Hosting (https://login.canadianwebhosting.com/) and have been for several years. I wanted to use a Canadian company so I wouldn't have to worry about some of the laws the US government put in place in regards to the Internet and US hosted content.
As long as the data you're concerned about has to traverse the Internet, having the server in Canada offers only the illusion of data protection. Packets might have to traverse the United States and even if they didn't, do you really think that an American IP transit provider can resist the pressure of the American government and not allow the government to collect data as they see fit? -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay +1 647-778-8696

On 21/12/15 09:43 PM, Clifford Ilkay wrote:
On 21/12/15 09:07 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
On Dec 20, 2015 6:28 PM, "Daniel Villarreal" <youcanlinux@gmail.com <mailto:youcanlinux@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
I'm using Canadian Web Hosting (https://login.canadianwebhosting.com/) and have been for several years. I wanted to use a Canadian company so I wouldn't have to worry about some of the laws the US government put in place in regards to the Internet and US hosted content.
As long as the data you're concerned about has to traverse the Internet, having the server in Canada offers only the illusion of data protection. Packets might have to traverse the United States and even if they didn't, do you really think that an American IP transit provider can resist the pressure of the American government and not allow the government to collect data as they see fit?
<http://www.cantechletter.com/2015/12/ixmaps-illustrates-how-your-local-data-travels-through-the-nsas-jurisdiction/> -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay +1 647-778-8696

On 15-12-21 09:43 PM, Clifford Ilkay wrote:
On 21/12/15 09:07 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
I'm using Canadian Web Hosting (https://login.canadianwebhosting.com/) and have been for several years. I wanted to use a Canadian company so I wouldn't have to worry about some of the laws the US government put in place in regards to the Internet and US hosted content.
As long as the data you're concerned about has to traverse the Internet, having the server in Canada offers only the illusion of data protection.
The person who mentioned "no interception worries" by using a Canadian provider was Bob Jonkman. I had other concerns arising from laws enacted by the American government in the name of keeping their people "safe". -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include <disclaimer/favourite> | --Chris Hardwick

Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
I have been using for a number of years and it's amazing. I'm running a bunch of static web sites, WordPress, YOURLS, and some custom PHP/MySQL stuff. They also support doing running daemons and proxies (i.e. you can run your Node.js, Python, or Ruby web apps). If you want full control over your environment you should go with . That's where this mailing list is hosted.

I've used 000webhost before... but quite a while ago. It's free and they give you shell access. If you're willing to pay, then Digital Ocean is very good if you don't mind administrating your own stuff. $5/month and they now have servers in Toronto. If you really want to shop around, take a look at http://www.lowendtalk.com/ . On 20 December 2015 at 18:28, Daniel Villarreal <youcanlinux@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks! Daniel Villarreal http://www.youcanlinux.org/ --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Thanks for the recommendations, Mr. Tisdall! I appreciate it. have a good day, Daniel Villarreal On 12/21/15 08:55, Tim Tisdall wrote:
I've used 000webhost before... but quite a while ago. It's free and they give you shell access.
If you're willing to pay, then Digital Ocean is very good if you don't mind administrating your own stuff. $5/month and they now have servers in Toronto.
If you really want to shop around, take a look at http://www.lowendtalk.com/ .
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?

On 20 December 2015 at 18:28, Daniel Villarreal <youcanlinux@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm looking for web hosting, for my own projects... anyone have any recommendations?
If I were starting again (and I may well be shortly ...) I'd go with hover for name management and Digital Ocean for the server(s). I already use both at work and have been very happy with them. Hover isn't the cheapest, but their prices are reasonable, they offer automatic privacy for domain owners, and their name management for sub-domains and the like is excellent. Digital Ocean is kind of a pain because yes, you do have to admin your own server, but that's also the plus side: no one decides which services are available for you to install. So it depends how much time you want to spend, and how much flexibility you need. At their cheapest, D.O. is $5US a month, although I'd encourage you to turn on the automatic backups for +20% per month. And start with the smallest server, because you can expand it to the next tier very easily - but shrinking the server requires considerably more work if you realize you didn't need such a big and expensive box. Good luck. -- Giles http://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com
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Bob Jonkman
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Chris F.A. Johnson
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Clifford Ilkay
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Daniel Villarreal
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Giles Orr
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James Knott
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John Moniz
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Kevin Cozens
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Marcelo Cavalcante
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Myles Braithwaite
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Nigel Auger
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Stephen
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Tim Tisdall