[GTALUG-Announce] GTALUG Meeting on Tuesday 10 October at 7:30pm
<http://gtalug.org/meeting/2017-10/> # The State of Mozilla with Mike Hoye In November, Mozilla will release Firefox 57, a major update to the browser with a lot of new technology and features under the hood. Mike Hoye will be joining us to talk where Firefox, Mozilla and the Web are today, and where they're going. ### Annual General Meeting After Mike's talk GTALUG will be doing it's annual general meeting. * **GTALUG Update** -- 5 minutes * **Treasury Update** -- 5 minutes * **ICANN & CAG** -- 5 minutes * **Board Elections** -- 20 minutes ## Location George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre 245 Church Street, Room 203 Ryerson University <http://goo.gl/maps/16oJ2> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23447525> ## Schedule * 6:00 pm - Please discuss on the general mailing list (i.e. <talk@gtalug.org>) where you want to go for dinner. * 7:30 pm - Meeting and presentation. * 9:00 pm - After each meeting, a group of GTALUGers move to The Imperial Pub (54 Dundas St East) for refreshments and more socialising. # Code of Conduct We want a productive happy community that can welcome new ideas, improve every process every year, and foster collaboration between individuals with differing needs, interests and skills. We gain strength from diversity, and actively seek participation from those who enhance it. This code of conduct exists to ensure that diverse groups collaborate to mutual advantage and enjoyment. We will challenge prejudice that could jeopardise the participation of any person in the community. The Code of Conduct governs how we behave in public or in private whenever the Linux community will be judged by our actions. We expect it to be honoured by everyone who represents the community officially or informally, claims affiliation or participates directly. It applies to activities online or offline. We invite anybody to participate. Our community is open. Please read more about the GTALUG Code of Conduct here: <http://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/>. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the GTALUG Code of Conduct please contact the GTALUG Board @ <board@gtalug.org>. --- GTALUG Announce mailing list announce@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:09 PM, hi--- via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
<http://gtalug.org/meeting/2017-10/>
# The State of Mozilla with Mike Hoye
In November, Mozilla will release Firefox 57, a major update to the browser with a lot of new technology and features under the hood. Mike Hoye will be joining us to talk where Firefox, Mozilla and the Web are today, and where they're going.
I can't attend (just a couple and then some thousand km away - - - sorry) but I would love to get a response to a question (or two). Am a serious browser user - - - in the past have had up to 18 windows open and from 3 to 50+ tabs on any one window. There isn't a browser out there that can handle that kind of usage especially NOT FF! ( I have north of 20 GB of RAM plus a system to match so its really not a resources issue). The issue is that browsers are quite memory wasteful and somehow can't use ram neatly. When can we expect the present malaise to change - - - - 2030? Maybe his response to my comment/question could be transmitted back - - - please? Yes I've tried using the 'help' section but dev types don't seem to ever read anything there. Regards Dee
On 2017-09-30 03:15 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
… in the past have had up to 18 windows open and from 3 to 50+ tabs on any one window.
Could one do useful work with that many pages open at once? Each page/tab is effectively a little VM, so you've got hundreds of “users” on your system. If just one of those tabs does an image carousel (like many news or sales sites), it'll use most of a core to do so, even if hidden. I thought I had problems with one tab out of 10 or so in Firefox crashing and turning this i7 into a mini space heater, but clearly I ain't seen nothing yet … cheers, Stewart
I use The Great Suspender extension extension in Chrome to suspend background tabs. That frees up resources being consumed by those tabs. There are similar add-ons for Firefox. Regards, Clifford Ilkay On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2017-09-30 03:15 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
… in the past have had up to 18 windows open and from 3 to 50+ tabs on any one window.
Could one do useful work with that many pages open at once? Each page/tab is effectively a little VM, so you've got hundreds of “users” on your system. If just one of those tabs does an image carousel (like many news or sales sites), it'll use most of a core to do so, even if hidden.
I thought I had problems with one tab out of 10 or so in Firefox crashing and turning this i7 into a mini space heater, but clearly I ain't seen nothing yet …
cheers, Stewart
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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2017-09-30 03:15 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
… in the past have had up to 18 windows open and from 3 to 50+ tabs on any one window.
Could one do useful work with that many pages open at once? Each page/tab is effectively a little VM, so you've got hundreds of “users” on your system. If just one of those tabs does an image carousel (like many news or sales sites), it'll use most of a core to do so, even if hidden.
My work flow goes something like this. Working on finding an option that works better than virtualbox for me. Do a search - - - find an interesting webpage. That page refers to something - - - lets say its containers. Then I open another tab and start looking for containers in linux and some ways of implementing and controlling. That can easily result in 5 tabs looking back and forth for information. Then drilling down I'm looking at lxc/lxd for a combination. There is the official pages but then I've often found it useful to have have others have written on installation first and then use. Getting to 20 tabs on this particular example isn't hard at all. After I get something installed, and that rarely seems straight forward and so the process takes looking up the 4 or 5 issues that need to be resolved (easily another 3 or 4 tabs if not more) I tend to leave the tabs available. Rereading information sites is a way of remembering and reinforcing. Then there are all the other projects (its rare when I've only got 5 or 6 on the go and sometimes its a lot more). I tried using a different window for every meta topic (and Min works quite well here) but that didn't help. So I try hard to control the tab proliferation but I don't seem to be winning often - -- grin!
I thought I had problems with one tab out of 10 or so in Firefox crashing and turning this i7 into a mini space heater, but clearly I ain't seen nothing yet …
I do have 6 physical (meaning 12 accessible however that works) cores available so - - pedal to the metal!! For me computers are tools. Software is like functions. When tools don't work, for me, either I need a better tool or I need to build a tool. As I'm a total noob to programming, and understand that a better browser is quite likely something that I'm not really equipped to create by myself, I choose to challenge the incumbents by pointing out what's not working. Except in this case the incumbents don't really ever seem to connect with anyone not on the project or at very least they sure don't seem to be listening (I think the second is an even more glaring fault than the first) so when I read of a very senior member of one of those problem tool committees is going to appear out of their gopher hole - - - -well I thought it would be worth a question (or three!). Sorry for throwing the cat into the bathwater!! Dee
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Stewart C. Russell