I use SiteGround (SG) https://world.siteground.com/ for website hosting http://aspetrie.net/ and email (POP3 / IMAP, SMTP). While I have found that SG technical support has occasionally seemed to me, to be a little peremptory and almost arrogant, they do know their stuff, and SG's infrastructure has been rock solid and extremely quick-response in real time terms. A while ago SG moved their services over to AWS and so far, SG service responsive time and reliability on AWS has been top notch. My attitude in selecting computing infrastructure providers is DEAD SIMPLE: NOTHING BEATS RELIABILITY IN SERVICES, PRODUCTS AND PEOPLE. So, I will quite happily suck up a little (perceived) arrogance from SG tech support, if the infrastructure being supported comes with rock-solid reliability and snappy performance. Mind you, SG could be considered to be a PREMIUM PRICED SERVICE, but when I have investigated hosting service alternatives, any apparent cost savings seemed minimal, and besides, I prefer to spend my time working on interesting personal projects, instead of posspbly struggling with flaky glitchy cheap / free hosting infrastructure. I happily pay some serious money to SG, to enjoy never regretting my choice of SG. Only problem I have had with SG email spam management, was being unable to use my Firefox browser to whitelist a particular email sender, whose messages were being listed by SG as potential spam. The SG support person showed me THEY could do the whitelisting, and then immediately closed my problem ticket. SG email comes with excellent spam management. I spend a few seconds once a day, dealing with a handful of potential spam candidates reported by SG spam management. Only once, have I ever seen a legitimate incoming email listed as potential spam in an SG spam report. Steve Petrie -------- Original Message -------- SUBJECT: [GTALUG] Mailchannels Vancouver,BC DATE: 2023-07-25 06:09 FROM: ac via talk <talk@gtalug.org> TO: talk@gtalug.org Hi Everyone, It seems that Mailchannels no longer manages abuse, spam, scams and criminal activity and seems to have become a service provider to criminal syndicates and other low life, nefarious and scum baggerry (does scum baggerry have two G's and two R's? or is scum baggery even a word?) They are not a "free" provider like @google (which now, recently and of late again seems to be accepting abuse complaints at abuse@google.com) Why is it that the more scummy an org becomes, the larger they seem to grow? I am thinking of names like sendgrid, for example. the more scummy the org becomes the larger they become? Maybe I am just 'late' to see the connection and the "ESP's" already know that, which I am now only noticing. The "ESP's" have this layer or veneer of "decency" and we do no evil, yet, practically, they do evil and it now seems that the more evil they are, while pretending to be sheep, the larger they grow. at the risk of seeming more ranty than shary, I also wonder why Google decided to start managing abuse again via email? I was so surprised a few weeks ago when abuse@google started working again... (does anyone know why?) In closing, has anyone else noticed the link between more scummy and economic growth? And the 'better' the decency veneer, like good abuse response (but no action) etc. etc. the larger the org grows? Andre --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk