Scientific Libraries in Python for Drawing Physics Equations
Greetings, I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. If someone has a recommendation or has used something similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory. This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming library, Nick -- Fundamentally an organism has conscious mental states if and only if there is something that it is like to be that organism--something it is like for the organism. - Thomas Nagel
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 5:07 PM Nicholas Krause via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Greetings, I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. If someone has a recommendation or has used something similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory.
This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming library, Nick
My guru for such died early this summer but I'm betting Tex would be your friend. How easy - - - dunno. Did some searching at CTAN (comprehensive Tex archive network) but nothing direct. Quite sure there would be something you'll find it faster talking to someone who does know their way around Tex. HTH
On 2020-11-02 18:07, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote:
Greetings, I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. If someone has a recommendation or has used something similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory.
This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming library,
I have zero experience or knowledge about it, but here's a reasonable looking project that uses Seaborn (https://seaborn.pydata.org/) to visualize wave functions: https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project The code is in here: https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project/blob/master/Tung-Nhan%20Nguyen%2... Seaborn is a very nice wrapper around matplotlib. From a cursory glance, it looks like qutip is also a wrapper around pandas & matplotlib so the two might be useful in combination with each other. Cheers, Jamon
On 11/2/20 6:56 PM, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote:
On 2020-11-02 18:07, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote:
Greetings, I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. If someone has a recommendation or has used something similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory.
This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming library,
I have zero experience or knowledge about it, but here's a reasonable looking project that uses Seaborn (https://seaborn.pydata.org/) to visualize wave functions:
https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project
The code is in here: https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project/blob/master/Tung-Nhan%20Nguyen%2...
Seaborn is a very nice wrapper around matplotlib. From a cursory glance, it looks like qutip is also a wrapper around pandas & matplotlib so the two might be useful in combination with each other.
Cheers, Jamon
Jamon, Thanks I will look into that. The bigger problem isn't wave functions so much as quantum field theory. I'm not sure how many people about it. Basically its a merger of special relativity with quantum mechanics using fields. Not sure if its better to graph that out using a physics engine or just the above. If people need more information on that this may help: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2015/08/20/qft/ And for anyone who is asking General Relativity has issues with Bell's Theorem in quantum mechanics alongside other things I'm not aware of so its not part of the standard model. Off topic but the standard paper on that is this: https://cds.cern.ch/record/111654/files/vol1p195-200_001.pdf and it was proven in various labs in the 1960s if I recall my years correctly. Sorry for the weird question and this is my bigger concern if I was unclear before through thanks again James, Nick
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 at 22:21, Nicholas Krause via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 11/2/20 6:56 PM, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote:
On 2020-11-02 18:07, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote:
Greetings, I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. If someone has a recommendation or has used something similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory.
This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming library,
I have zero experience or knowledge about it, but here's a reasonable looking project that uses Seaborn (https://seaborn.pydata.org/) to visualize wave functions:
https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project
The code is in here: https://github.com/nnguyen19/helium_project/blob/master/Tung-Nhan%20Nguyen%2...
Seaborn is a very nice wrapper around matplotlib. From a cursory glance, it looks like qutip is also a wrapper around pandas & matplotlib so the two might be useful in combination with each other.
Cheers, Jamon
Jamon, Thanks I will look into that. The bigger problem isn't wave functions so much as quantum field theory. I'm not sure how many people about it. Basically its a merger of special relativity with quantum mechanics using fields. Not sure if its better to graph that out using a physics engine or just the above. If people need more information on that this may help: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2015/08/20/qft/ And for anyone who is asking General Relativity has issues with Bell's Theorem in quantum mechanics alongside other things I'm not aware of so its not part of the standard model. Off topic but the standard paper on that is this: https://cds.cern.ch/record/111654/files/vol1p195-200_001.pdf and it was proven in various labs in the 1960s if I recall my years correctly.
Sorry for the weird question and this is my bigger concern if I was unclear before through thanks again James,
I have some (not much) experience with matplotlib, and have been impressed by it. I suspect that by itself matplotlib would be inadequate to your task - I encountered Quantum Mechanics in university and hated it, but that was ... decades ago, so I'm not claiming to understand. But it sounds like there are wrappers, and if they're based on matplotlib I think they chose a good starting point. Hope this helps, if only a little. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com
| From: Nicholas Krause via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | I'm wondering if anyone has used this before: http://qutip.org/tutorials.html. | If someone has a recommendation or has used something | similar for drawing out the graphs for Schrodinger wave functions or | Quantum Field Theory that would be helpful. I'm drawing to draw them | out on a computer with a library as drawing them by hand is also impossible | for large scales of values and will be easier for field theory. No harm in asking, but this isn't the best group to ask. Try talking to people in the applications area. I first saw a program to graph the Schrodinger Wave Equation as an example for the PDP-8 FOCAL language in 1967 or 1968. Graphing on a teletype! Nobody would draw this stuff by hand now. Sketch, maybe. I don't even know how useful graphs of this thing are. Visualization would be more useful (i.e. a live multi-dimensional graph that you can manipulate and explore). But there must be tonnes of software you could use, without even programming. Lots of projects have contributions from physicists. Mathmatica: Wolfram started this quest as a post-doc (or something like it) in the High Energy Physics Department at Cal Tech. Mathmatica is expensive, but free on a Rasperry Pi. Jupyter and Julia (both open source projects) surely have lots of physics contributors. | This is for the future but it would be nice to hear if anyone has any | experience with drawing out quantum physics equations from a programming | library, It all depends why you are doing it.
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