
Greetings I am not asking about how to solve Firefox issues (IMO the best way would be to get rid of the garbage) but am looking for some input. Firefox dies on me - - - and often. Am running a Debian testing box with 2 gpus and 4 monitors (and more than 20 GM of RAM) so I run the proprietary drivers (nouveau devs still seem to only use one monitor so they don't have any way that I know of to set up a four monitor 2 gpu setup). To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old. Are there any options for browsers that work? I'd use Chromium but I'm quite tired of google using me to get rich (especially when their search engine isn't near as good as they want me to think it is (I generally use Duckduckgo)) - - - so any ideas? I've tried Min, Opera, Vivaldi doesn't really work well (imo). Ideas/suggestions welcome! Regards Dee

I run primarily FF Quantum 61.0.1 with the NoScript plugin (limited approvals) on Ubuntu 16.04 and have no issues. I also run Tor with no plugins (pretty much FF) and have no issues. You could try Brave, which is based on Chromium. There's a version for Linux. Don On 9 August 2018 at 18:37, o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Greetings
I am not asking about how to solve Firefox issues (IMO the best way would be to get rid of the garbage) but am looking for some input. Firefox dies on me - - - and often. Am running a Debian testing box with 2 gpus and 4 monitors (and more than 20 GM of RAM) so I run the proprietary drivers (nouveau devs still seem to only use one monitor so they don't have any way that I know of to set up a four monitor 2 gpu setup). To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.
Are there any options for browsers that work?
I'd use Chromium but I'm quite tired of google using me to get rich (especially when their search engine isn't near as good as they want me to think it is (I generally use Duckduckgo)) - - - so any ideas?
I've tried Min, Opera, Vivaldi doesn't really work well (imo).
Ideas/suggestions welcome!
Regards
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o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> writes:
To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.
Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel driver. You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox? Charles

Another Firefox (nightly at that) + noscript user here, running stretch/sid and not having any crashes. I don't have the beast of a machine that you do, so I usually have <20 tabs open at a time, but I also run them in Firefox Containers, which makes them a little more resource hungry. I suggest figuring out the crash conditions and submitting bug reports to Mozilla to get them figured out. Ever since FF ~50 or so, it's been rock solid for me, and the containers to keep tracking cookies contained is wonderful. -jason On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:02 PM Charles Philip Chan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> writes:
To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.
Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel driver.
You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox?
Charles --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Jason Shaw via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Another Firefox (nightly at that) + noscript user here, running stretch/sid and not having any crashes. I don't have the beast of a machine that you do, so I usually have <20 tabs open at a time, but I also run them in Firefox Containers, which makes them a little more resource hungry.
I suggest figuring out the crash conditions and submitting bug reports to Mozilla to get them figured out. Ever since FF ~50 or so, it's been rock solid for me, and the containers to keep tracking cookies contained is wonderful.
I've been complaining about FF for about 5 years. I've had the machine about 6 .5 years and have enough ram so that if things were coded well I shouldn't have to worry about space requirements. I do tend to use a lot of tabs - - - -I've had well over 300 of them at once but lately I don't seem to even be able to get to 50 and with piles of ram - - - well that means that the confluence of the kernel, graphics drivers and FF - - - its a mess imo. I've tried reporting things quite a while ago but as the dev team just didn't seem to be interested and my system is a little out of the ordinary I've come to realize that its just a waste of time as the people responding are NOT the ones with knowledge of the coding and that's who needs to hear things but they don't seem to be interested. OH well - - - that's why I'm looking for an alternative but I'm loath to give ms google an easy look into my affairs! Thanks for the ideas. Dee

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Charles Philip Chan via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> writes:
To have some privacy I run Noscript and only give limited approval for access. Firefox seems to be only set up to run on M$ systems. The sometimes 5 and more deaths (FF) per day are getting quite old.
Strange, I rarely have Firefox die on me (my machine's up time is between kernel upgrades and Firefox is always running with noscript as one of the addons). However, I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed using the Intel driver.
You should try to figure out what is causing the crashs. Have you tried turning off GPU acceleration in Firefox?
The crashes seem to be related to libglib-2.0 - - - exactly what that means - - well - - - I don't know. I increased the level from 4 to 7 on the GPU settings as I have ram to burn. Thanks for the ideas!! Dee
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Jason Shaw
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o1bigtenor