On 2023-12-18 09:41, ac via talk wrote:
So, interesting times where only 54 weeks ago, OpenAI devs shocked the world with the release of ChatGPT 3.x, and now devs in the field are being shocked by open sourced (Apache licensed) AIs.
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:33:24 -0800 Ron / BCLUG via talk<talk@gtalug.org> wrote: <snip> the time between the world being shocked is becoming shorter as the singularity approaches :) I am waiting for the arrival of Singularia https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7266
I am more worried that some idiot human will ask an AI for the DNA to a virus that will kill all Christians or Jews or Muslims, and get a virus that kills all humans.
open source models are very cool and deserve broad support. Also interesting is hardware growth, the h100 with almost 15k cuda cores (more than twice that of a100) and then AMD with open source ROCm as machine learning becomes more mainstream, more hardware, faster hardware and close vs open in that arena is also something interesting to watch. What actually is or will be 'ai' is also interesting to watch :) It is crazy the amount of new stuff showing up every day now. It is clear that hugingface is the place to watch.
-- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
On 2023-12-18 09:41, ac via talk wrote:
So, interesting times where only 54 weeks ago, OpenAI devs shocked the world with the release of ChatGPT 3.x, and now devs in the field are being shocked by open sourced (Apache licensed) AIs.
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:33:24 -0800 Ron / BCLUG via talk<talk@gtalug.org> wrote: <snip> the time between the world being shocked is becoming shorter as the singularity approaches :) I am waiting for the arrival of Singularia https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7266
I am more worried that some idiot human will ask an AI for the DNA to a virus that will kill all Christians or Jews or Muslims, and get a virus that kills all humans.
The one that goes through my mind is: A space alien comes to earth and lands. And we run up to the S.A. and say "Thank God you're here! You've got to help us. We got this message from space? And we decoded it? And it was the plans for a giant computer? And we built it? and turned it on? And it took over the world and made us all its slaves? And it's cruel and our lives are horrible and you've got to do something!!" So the space alien says "Well, let's see the message." And it reads the message and says "This is a recipe for butterscotch chip muffins. What have you been doing?"
open source models are very cool and deserve broad support. Also interesting is hardware growth, the h100 with almost 15k cuda cores (more than twice that of a100) and then AMD with open source ROCm as machine learning becomes more mainstream, more hardware, faster hardware and close vs open in that arena is also something interesting to watch. What actually is or will be 'ai' is also interesting to watch :) It is crazy the amount of new stuff showing up every day now. It is clear that hugingface is the place to watch.
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 04:45:40 -0500 mwilson--- via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 09:41, ac via talk wrote:
So, interesting times where only 54 weeks ago, OpenAI devs shocked the world with the release of ChatGPT 3.x, and now devs in the field are being shocked by open sourced (Apache licensed) AIs.
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:33:24 -0800 Ron / BCLUG via talk<talk@gtalug.org> wrote: <snip> the time between the world being shocked is becoming shorter as the singularity approaches :) I am waiting for the arrival of Singularia https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7266
very cool, thanks Alvin, really enjoyed that! :)
but... as far as humans being "watt efficient" and this being a saving grace for our species: Chinese scientists developed another new light based chip (the previous one was 100x on a100... this one is 3000x on a100 - but note the energy consumption: "ACCEL can execute an impressive 74.8 quadrillion operations per second using just a single watt of power"[1]
I am more worried that some idiot human will ask an AI for the DNA to a virus that will kill all Christians or Jews or Muslims, and get a virus that kills all humans.
The one that goes through my mind is: A space alien comes to earth and lands. And we run up to the S.A. and say "Thank God you're here! You've got to help us. We got this message from space? And we decoded it? And it was the plans for a giant computer? And we built it? and turned it on? And it took over the world and made us all its slaves? And it's cruel and our lives are horrible and you've got to do something!!" So the space alien says "Well, let's see the message." And it reads the message and says "This is a recipe for butterscotch chip muffins. What have you been doing?"
oh wow. can of worms. imo butterscotch is so much more than caramel. so I can (and have) made really cool caramel chip muffins. BUT, If I only had a really cool recipe for butterscotch chip muffins. You can google it, it is a very real problem... most recipes just say "add butterscotch chips" - but the real world issues are that if your flakes/chips are too large (thick) and the muffin is chewed, the larger hard chip is sometimes unexpected (even though knowing and expecting such chips in the muffin) then, if you make the butterscotch flakes to thin or too small, they kinda dissolve (or become like smudgy) during baking. Sorry, I know this is truly far off topic: But if you perhaps really have a good butterscotch chip muffin recipe, would you mind sending it to me? I know that somewhere out there, there exists a recipe with more granulated butterscotch (butterscotch is basically brown sugar and butter) but there is a 'secret' process out there as I have actually eaten butterscotch muffins with more granulated (like not exactly chewy but not like rock candy either) I am thinking that when the whole space alien thingy ran through your mind, it was after all a butterscotch recipe... (not chocolate cake) so, you must actually know the secret. please tell me? please?
open source models are very cool and deserve broad support. Also interesting is hardware growth, the h100 with almost 15k cuda cores (more than twice that of a100) and then AMD with open source ROCm as machine learning becomes more mainstream, more hardware, faster hardware and close vs open in that arena is also something interesting to watch. What actually is or will be 'ai' is also interesting to watch :) It is crazy the amount of new stuff showing up every day now. It is clear that hugingface is the place to watch. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
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On 2023-12-19 04:45, mwilson--- via talk wrote:
On 2023-12-18 09:41, ac via talk wrote:
So, interesting times where only 54 weeks ago, OpenAI devs shocked the world with the release of ChatGPT 3.x, and now devs in the field are being shocked by open sourced (Apache licensed) AIs.
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:33:24 -0800 Ron / BCLUG via talk<talk@gtalug.org> wrote: <snip> the time between the world being shocked is becoming shorter as the singularity approaches :) I am waiting for the arrival of Singularia https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7266
I am more worried that some idiot human will ask an AI for the DNA to a virus that will kill all Christians or Jews or Muslims, and get a virus that kills all humans.
The one that goes through my mind is: A space alien comes to earth and lands. And we run up to the S.A. and say "Thank God you're here! You've got to help us. We got this message from space? And we decoded it? And it was the plans for a giant computer? And we built it? and turned it on? And it took over the world and made us all its slaves? And it's cruel and our lives are horrible and you've got to do something!!" So the space alien says "Well, let's see the message." And it reads the message and says "This is a recipe for butterscotch chip muffins. What have you been doing?"
See "A for Andromeda" circa1962, written by Fred Hoyle and John Elliot. Followed up by "Andromeda Breakthrough" by the same authors. But the aliens weren't so nice in the Andromeda books. The aliens provide schematics and code for wonderfully advanced computers.. that replicate themselves and start a terraforming project on Earth! -- Michael Galea
On 2023-12-19 17:56, Michael Galea via talk wrote: [snip]
The one that goes through my mind is: A space alien comes to earth and lands. And we run up to the S.A. and say "Thank God you're here! You've got to help us. We got this message from space? And we decoded it? And it was the plans for a giant computer? And we built it? and turned it on? And it took over the world and made us all its slaves? And it's cruel and our lives are horrible and you've got to do something!!" So the space alien says "Well, let's see the message." And it reads the message and says "This is a recipe for butterscotch chip muffins. What have you been doing?"
See "A for Andromeda" circa1962, written by Fred Hoyle and John Elliot. Followed up by "Andromeda Breakthrough" by the same authors.
But the aliens weren't so nice in the Andromeda books. The aliens provide schematics and code for wonderfully advanced computers.. that replicate themselves and start a terraforming project on Earth!
Hmm.... You could classify humans as computers built from the plans in our DNA. We are terraforming the earth. Could the story be true. They got here a few hundred thousand or million years ago and converted some apes into self replicating geoengineering devices that just work very slowly. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 alvin@netvel.net ||
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