inexpensive external portable 4T drive
I like the 4T Seagate "portable" (i.e. 2.5") external 4T disk drives. They are good for backups. - 2.5" drives are physically small - 2.5" external drives only have one (USB3) cable. No separate power cable and wall-wart (3.5" externals require these). - If you don't have USB 3 on your computer I'm not sure that the drive will get enough power to run. Even if it works, filling a 4T drive at USB 2 "Full Speed" is going to take a very long time. - shuckable (i.e. you can pry off the case and use the raw drive). This is good if something goes wrong. It isn't true of Western Digital drives. - unfortunate: if I remember correctly, the physical raw drive is a little thicker than most 2.5" drive bays allow. So shucking to get a raw drive to install inside a notebook may not work. The Seagate 2T portable externals do work. - 2.5" drives seem to handle mechanical shock better than 3.5" drives - 2.5" drives are a lot easier to store than 3.5" drives (a lot smaller, lighter, and fewer bits) - cheap. Usually $125 is possible. Last I looked, cheaper than the internal drive. Right now Staples is selling these for $99.92 + a little environmental stewardship fee. And there are a lot of $15 off $100 Staples coupons floating about. I even had (and used) a $25 off $75 coupon. <http://forums.redflagdeals.com/staples-staples-seagate-expansion-stea4000400-4-tb-usb-3-0-99-92-additional-savings-coupon-2218659/> (For most internal applications these days, SSDs make more sense than HDDs. SSD prices seem to be starting to fall. For a number of our notebooks we actually have both.) There are drives with larger capacity but they are generally more expensive per byte, shingled, or 3.5". I don't yet trust shingled drives but a natural application for them would be backing up because that doesn't require random access writing, their weak point.
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 11:17, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
I like the 4T Seagate "portable" (i.e. 2.5") external 4T disk drives. They are good for backups.
- 2.5" drives are physically small
- 2.5" external drives only have one (USB3) cable. No separate power cable and wall-wart (3.5" externals require these).
- If you don't have USB 3 on your computer I'm not sure that the drive will get enough power to run. Even if it works, filling a 4T drive at USB 2 "Full Speed" is going to take a very long time.
- shuckable (i.e. you can pry off the case and use the raw drive). This is good if something goes wrong. It isn't true of Western Digital drives.
- unfortunate: if I remember correctly, the physical raw drive is a little thicker than most 2.5" drive bays allow. So shucking to get a raw drive to install inside a notebook may not work. The Seagate 2T portable externals do work.
- 2.5" drives seem to handle mechanical shock better than 3.5" drives
- 2.5" drives are a lot easier to store than 3.5" drives (a lot smaller, lighter, and fewer bits)
- cheap. Usually $125 is possible. Last I looked, cheaper than the internal drive.
Right now Staples is selling these for $99.92 + a little environmental stewardship fee. And there are a lot of $15 off $100 Staples coupons floating about. I even had (and used) a $25 off $75 coupon.
< http://forums.redflagdeals.com/staples-staples-seagate-expansion-stea4000400...
(For most internal applications these days, SSDs make more sense than HDDs. SSD prices seem to be starting to fall. For a number of our notebooks we actually have both.)
There are drives with larger capacity but they are generally more expensive per byte, shingled, or 3.5". I don't yet trust shingled drives but a natural application for them would be backing up because that doesn't require random access writing, their weak point. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
I could just say "me too" but I should probably clarify. I didn't know you could still "shell" this model - I knew the WDs didn't support that anymore, I had assumed the same of the Seagates - that's good to know. I have three of this very model, bought about 18 months ago. One has been used fairly heavily, the other two are on a lighter backup duty - all have performed flawlessly. Lennart isn't a fan of Seagate as I recall and I've usually preferred WD myself, but I've had reason to be happy with these. And $100 is a good price. -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com
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