Rogers "Anyplace TV" does not support Firefox
Why would that be? It claims to support MS Edge, IE 11, Chrome, and Safari. I don't have Chrome on my desktop because it is closed source.
| From: o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | What about Chromium? Not listed. I expect that means "no".
| From: o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | What about Chromium? No. And I tried Crave TV too. It silently won't allow login from Firefox or Chromium on Linux. Since it is silent, I don't know what it is objecting too.
I was apparently too terse. | From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | | From: o1bigtenor via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | | | What about Chromium? | | No. No, Chromium didn't work either. I installed it and tried it in response to o1bigtenor's query.
On 2019-03-09 6:09 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
No, Chromium didn't work either. I installed it and tried it in response to o1bigtenor's query.
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What about IE Tab extension to Chrome? W. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 8:09 AM James Knott via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 03/09/2019 05:15 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
It silently won't allow login from Firefox or Chromium on Linux. Since it is silent, I don't know what it is objecting too.
IIRC, it also had to Chrome on Windows.
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May I make a suggestion? If any of you are members of the Rogers community boards, or follow them on twitter, please educate them about Linux. bell has the same problem, or claims to have as much. With programs like the TPL training one introducing people to Linux vastness, Rogers must know that they must support the platform. Working around what they are doing without educating them will only keep them vested in Windows. Just a thought, Kare On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, William Porquet via talk wrote:
What about IE Tab extension to Chrome?
W.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 8:09 AM James Knott via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 03/09/2019 05:15 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
It silently won't allow login from Firefox or Chromium on Linux. Since it is silent, I don't know what it is objecting too.
IIRC, it also had to Chrome on Windows.
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pt On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:02 AM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
May I make a suggestion? If any of you are members of the Rogers community boards, or follow them on twitter, please educate them about Linux. bell has the same problem, or claims to have as much. With programs like the TPL training one introducing people to Linux vastness, Rogers must know that they must support the platform. Working around what they are doing without educating them will only keep them vested in Windows. Just a thought,
Its not a bad idea but a number of years I was introduced to a concept that goes something like this. When you try to convince an idiot of something they most often just drag you into the mud an beat you with experience. That about sums up my experiences with outfits like Bell and Rogers and Telus (connected to Bell) and and and . The only way to 'help them learn something' is to first hit them HARD in the pocket book - - - funny how they're interested in listening at that point! Dee
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-)) --dave (who managed escalations all too often) c-b On 2019-03-11 11:23 a.m., o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
May I make a suggestion? If any of you are members of the Rogers community boards, or follow them on twitter, please educate them about Linux. bell has the same problem, or claims to have as much. With programs like the TPL training one introducing people to Linux vastness, Rogers must know that they must support the platform. Working around what they are doing without educating them will only keep them vested in Windows. Just a thought, Its not a bad idea but a number of years I was introduced to a concept
pt On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:02 AM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote: that goes something like this. When you try to convince an idiot of something they most often just drag you into the mud an beat you with experience. That about sums up my experiences with outfits like Bell and Rogers and Telus (connected to Bell) and and and . The only way to 'help them learn something' is to first hit them HARD in the pocket book - - - funny how they're interested in listening at that point!
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-))
Well - - - as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise (when you keep pissing off your customer you WILL eventually lose them even if there are almost no other games in town at the time - - - someone will show up!) I've gotten to where I don't talk much with the first level, sometimes to the second and find that the back room boys don't like it when their sacred premises are proven to be 'wrong'. Dee
Depends on the company. Some (you can guess who) figure they've got you, and they should minimize their customer support costs by actively pissing people off in order to drive them away. Others, including ones of the size of Sun and above, worry about losing customers. Many need a clue-stick (;-)) --dave On 2019-03-11 4:32 p.m., o1bigtenor wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-))
Well - - - as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise (when you keep pissing off your customer you WILL eventually lose them even if there are almost no other games in town at the time - - - someone will show up!) I've gotten to where I don't talk much with the first level, sometimes to the second and find that the back room boys don't like it when their sacred premises are proven to be 'wrong'.
Dee
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Depends on the company. Some (you can guess who) figure they've got you, and they should minimize their customer support costs by actively pissing people off in order to drive them away. Others, including ones of the size of Sun and above, worry about losing customers. Many need a clue-stick (;-)) --dave On 2019-03-11 4:32 p.m., o1bigtenor wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-))
Well - - - as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise (when you keep pissing off your customer you WILL eventually lose them even if there are almost no other games in town at the time - - - someone will show up!) I've gotten to where I don't talk much with the first level, sometimes to the second and find that the back room boys don't like it when their sacred premises are proven to be 'wrong'.
Dee
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[...as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise] I disagree. The very fact that Doug Ford can get elected on a platform like "A buck a beer" speaks to the utter stupidity of the masses. This is a testament to the fact that the masses are incredibly gullible. Its business as usual. /gary On 19-03-11 04:32 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-))
Well - - - as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise (when you keep pissing off your customer you WILL eventually lose them even if there are almost no other games in town at the time - - - someone will show up!) I've gotten to where I don't talk much with the first level, sometimes to the second and find that the back room boys don't like it when their sacred premises are proven to be 'wrong'.
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As much as I am unhappy with the outcome of the last election your characterization is not really fair. Only 40% of the population in Ontario voted for the PC party. The voting process has part of the blame. Dissatisfaction with the previous government both real and generated take part of the blame. As appealing as "Buck a Beer" is I don't that that really carried the day. On 3/12/19 4:46 AM, Gary via talk wrote:
[...as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise]
I disagree. The very fact that Doug Ford can get elected on a platform like "A buck a beer" speaks to the utter stupidity of the masses. This is a testament to the fact that the masses are incredibly gullible. Its business as usual.
/gary
On 19-03-11 04:32 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM David Collier-Brown via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
The help-desk is tasked with making you happy with what you have. In many companies they are forbidden to take bug reports. You often have to ask for their "escalations manger", and sometimes explain to them what that is (;-))
Well - - - as one who has totally given up on getting big business to understand their imminent demise (when you keep pissing off your customer you WILL eventually lose them even if there are almost no other games in town at the time - - - someone will show up!) I've gotten to where I don't talk much with the first level, sometimes to the second and find that the back room boys don't like it when their sacred premises are proven to be 'wrong'.
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My guess is that the lack of support for Linux is because of the lack of built in DRM. Years ago we were dealing with several IPTV vendors and a common fear from the content owners is hackers breaking apart the streams and posting them to some torrent site. To get access to the content the IPTV providers had to provide some encryption to the set-top boxes. So long as the content owners have an unnatural fear of people stealing their content it is likely that OS's that are perceived as DRM strong will be supported. On 3/11/19 11:02 AM, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
May I make a suggestion? If any of you are members of the Rogers community boards, or follow them on twitter, please educate them about Linux. bell has the same problem, or claims to have as much. With programs like the TPL training one introducing people to Linux vastness, Rogers must know that they must support the platform. Working around what they are doing without educating them will only keep them vested in Windows. Just a thought, Kare
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, William Porquet via talk wrote:
What about IE Tab extension to Chrome?
W.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 8:09 AM James Knott via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 03/09/2019 05:15 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
It silently won't allow login from Firefox or Chromium on Linux. Since it is silent, I don't know what it is objecting too.
IIRC, it also had to Chrome on Windows.
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 11:36, Alvin Starr via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
My guess is that the lack of support for Linux is because of the lack of built in DRM.
Years ago we were dealing with several IPTV vendors and a common fear from the content owners is hackers breaking apart the streams and posting them to some torrent site. To get access to the content the IPTV providers had to provide some encryption to the set-top boxes.
So long as the content owners have an unnatural fear of people stealing their content it is likely that OS's that are perceived as DRM strong will be supported.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 8:09 AM James Knott via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
On 03/09/2019 05:15 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
It silently won't allow login from Firefox or Chromium on Linux. Since it is silent, I don't know what it is objecting too.
IIRC, it also had to Chrome on Windows.
I can't answer for "Anyplace TV" specifically, but I agree that this is probably because of DRM support. Netflix can be made to run on Linux if you're willing to install Chrome - it doesn't work in Firefox (my preferred browser) or Chromium, only in Chrome (and yes, this is personal experience on Fedora, most recently v28). And it is because of the DRM. So while it's possible Rogers are limiting their support to Windows and possibly macOS, try Chrome on Linux (if you're willing to install it). -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr@gmail.com
On 2019-03-11 12:34 p.m., Giles Orr via talk wrote:
Netflix can be made to run on Linux if you're willing to install Chrome - it doesn't work in Firefox
Netflix works fine for me on Firefox (65.0.1, Ubuntu 18.10 on x86_64). Your distro may have turned off Widevine: Tools → Add-ons → Plugins, then make sure that "Widevine Content Decryption Module provided by Google Inc." is allowed. Stewart
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 09:30:29PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
Why would that be?
I suspect it's because the proprietary browsers protect DRM content from copying.
It claims to support MS Edge, IE 11, Chrome, and Safari.
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Perhaps you could give Chromium a try, Hugh ? Clive -----Original Message----- From: talk <talk-bounces@gtalug.org> On Behalf Of D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk Sent: March 8, 2019 9:30 PM To: Toronto Linux Users Group <talk@gtalug.org> Cc: D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@mimosa.com> Subject: [GTALUG] Rogers "Anyplace TV" does not support Firefox Why would that be? It claims to support MS Edge, IE 11, Chrome, and Safari. I don't have Chrome on my desktop because it is closed source. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 21:30 D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Why would that be? It claims to support MS Edge, IE 11, Chrome, and Safari.
I don't have Chrome on my desktop because it is closed source.
I was having trouble with the Rogers website until I started to allow trackers. Ivan
Here too. Chrome and Ghostery usually serves me well, but on rogers.com I was not able to view my account until I allowed the trackers. It’s on todo list to revisit and figure out what trackers are “mandatory” and which trackers are not. From: talk <talk-bounces@gtalug.org> On Behalf Of Ivan Avery Frey via talk Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:51 AM To: GTALUG <talk@gtalug.org> Cc: Ivan Avery Frey <ivan.avery.frey@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Rogers "Anyplace TV" does not support Firefox On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 21:30 D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, <talk@gtalug.org <mailto:talk@gtalug.org> > wrote: Why would that be? It claims to support MS Edge, IE 11, Chrome, and Safari. I don't have Chrome on my desktop because it is closed source. I was having trouble with the Rogers website until I started to allow trackers. Ivan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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