wireless to ethernet adapter suggestions?
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent" So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this. Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router.
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them? On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
I don't have a deep background on this, but based on what you described I *think* that what you're looking for is called a "wireless bridge". This is the opposite of an access point. When doing an Amazon search, one of the items that came up is primarily used as a wifi signal booster, but also has an Ethernet port. https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1900-Range-Extender-RE550/dp/B08TLT65WM/ref=... Another simply advertises itself as a wifi to ethernet adapter: https://www.amazon.ca/BrosTrend-Ethernet-Universal-Adapter-Wireless/dp/B093G... Do either of these come close to meeting your needs? Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56 On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:34 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my
machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: main physically
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi Evan, I am feeling that the second item is what I need. My understanding is that the wifi coverage is quite good, meaning that the adapter could connect with ease, keeping me from losing service all the time. wonder if there is anything comparative, but slightly less expensive? thanks for the tip, I can search with the right terms now. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
I don't have a deep background on this, but based on what you described I *think* that what you're looking for is called a "wireless bridge". This is the opposite of an access point.
When doing an Amazon search, one of the items that came up is primarily used as a wifi signal booster, but also has an Ethernet port. https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1900-Range-Extender-RE550/dp/B08TLT65WM/ref=...
Another simply advertises itself as a wifi to ethernet adapter: https://www.amazon.ca/BrosTrend-Ethernet-Universal-Adapter-Wireless/dp/B093G...
Do either of these come close to meeting your needs?
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:34 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my
machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: main physically
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Find the Rogers router, plug an RJ45 into it, use a switch or an old router and you'll have a couple of wired RJ45 ports for use. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 22:28, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi Evan, I am feeling that the second item is what I need. My understanding is that the wifi coverage is quite good, meaning that the adapter could connect with ease, keeping me from losing service all the time. wonder if there is anything comparative, but slightly less expensive? thanks for the tip, I can search with the right terms now.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
I don't have a deep background on this, but based on what you described I *think* that what you're looking for is called a "wireless bridge". This is the opposite of an access point.
When doing an Amazon search, one of the items that came up is primarily used as a wifi signal booster, but also has an Ethernet port.
https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1900-Range-Extender-RE550/dp/B08TLT65WM/ref=...
Another simply advertises itself as a wifi to ethernet adapter:
https://www.amazon.ca/BrosTrend-Ethernet-Universal-Adapter-Wireless/dp/B093G...
Do either of these come close to meeting your needs?
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:34 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but
is
not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi Don, This household uses bell. Currently the adapter I am using is attached to the main setup upstairs, but the distance is causing long windows, as in sometimes lasting many hours where I cannot access the internet. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Don Tai wrote:
Find the Rogers router, plug an RJ45 into it, use a switch or an old router and you'll have a couple of wired RJ45 ports for use.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 22:28, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi Evan, I am feeling that the second item is what I need. My understanding is that the wifi coverage is quite good, meaning that the adapter could connect with ease, keeping me from losing service all the time. wonder if there is anything comparative, but slightly less expensive? thanks for the tip, I can search with the right terms now.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
I don't have a deep background on this, but based on what you described I *think* that what you're looking for is called a "wireless bridge". This is the opposite of an access point.
When doing an Amazon search, one of the items that came up is primarily used as a wifi signal booster, but also has an Ethernet port.
https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1900-Range-Extender-RE550/dp/B08TLT65WM/ref=...
Another simply advertises itself as a wifi to ethernet adapter:
https://www.amazon.ca/BrosTrend-Ethernet-Universal-Adapter-Wireless/dp/B093G...
Do either of these come close to meeting your needs?
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:34 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org
wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but
is
not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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If your apartment is in the basement, it is possible that the Rogers router is also in the basement? Check to see where the wire enters the house. Usually the main router from Bell or Rogers will have 4 ethernet ports. If everyone is wireless, then these ports should be free. You might want to check where the main router is located. Don On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 19:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my
machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: main physically
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi Don, Thanks, will ask again but my understanding is that all equipment is upstairs in my landlord's apartment. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Don Tai wrote:
If your apartment is in the basement, it is possible that the Rogers router is also in the basement? Check to see where the wire enters the house. Usually the main router from Bell or Rogers will have 4 ethernet ports. If everyone is wireless, then these ports should be free. You might want to check where the main router is located.
Don
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 19:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my
machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: main physically
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
Also, what privacy protection would you have, to keep him or the other tenant off your network? Typically, you'd use a router. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Find out where the Rogers cable enters your house. It should be near the electrical panel, which is usually in the basement. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 22:32, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
Hi Don, Thanks, will ask again but my understanding is that all equipment is upstairs in my landlord's apartment.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Don Tai wrote:
If your apartment is in the basement, it is possible that the Rogers router is also in the basement? Check to see where the wire enters the house. Usually the main router from Bell or Rogers will have 4 ethernet ports. If everyone is wireless, then these ports should be free. You might want to check where the main router is located.
Don
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 19:33, Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> wrote:
Hi James, fine questions. First, there is no other tenet here, its a private home, my apartment is in the basement, and honestly? I saw more than a few rental unites that advertised as all inclusive, i. e. providing internet as a part of the rent just like some provide utilities. Speaking personally, I wonder how rogers enforced that rule? willing to share the models of those units so I can search for them?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, James Knott via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my
machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be
On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: main physically
connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen Yes, it is possible to do that with WiFi. I have a couple of portable routers that will do that. However, another issue is by sharing Internet service, your landlord might be violating his terms of service with his ISP. For example, here's something that's prohibited on Rogers. I expect Bell will have something similar.
"use the Services for anything other than your own personal purposes (such as reselling the Services, providing Internet access or any other feature of the Services to any third party) or share or transfer your Services without our express consent"
So, if your landlord has personal service for his home and shares it with tenants, he would be violating this.
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Yes, I'm using Asus RP-N12 Repeater (in client mode) right now. I have bunch of devices in the basement with ethernet port only. My network is wireless router upstairs. In "client mode", it connects to my wireless router like normal client and bridges the connection to its single ethernet port. Then, the repeater is plugged into a switch along with the said devices. No problem getting DHCP IP, going out to internet, pinging local devices, etc. I don't think RP-N12 is available now. So, look for phrases, like - client mode - wireless network adapter - wireless bridge, media bridge - connects TV, gaming console, etc in the current models. I'm used to Asus, but I'm not sure what is the current state of market. On 2023-04-13 18:13, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
Hi wise souls, I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to find a solution. he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two adapter I got from the source a few years back. they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no extra software involved. The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with resources on line, like reach my office email. Leading me to the question. given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into a wireless network. By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. Anyone know of such an adapter? amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. Thanks, Karen
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| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two | adapter I got from the source a few years back. | they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item | is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no | extra software involved. What are these two adapters? It is hard to help without knowing. My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters. Here's an example: <https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/computers-tablets/networking/range-extenders-powerline/d-link-dhp-601av-re-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starter-kit---refurbished/p/108080701> (These happen to be refurbished.) If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as your landlord. That means that each of you can "see" all of the devices on the LAN. For privacy, each of you might want be on separate LANs. (Someone else mentioned this.)
I believe the source calls, or called them wall outlet Ethernet kits. On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
| There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two | adapter I got from the source a few years back. | they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item | is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no | extra software involved.
What are these two adapters? It is hard to help without knowing.
My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters. Here's an example: <https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/computers-tablets/networking/range-extenders-powerline/d-link-dhp-601av-re-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starter-kit---refurbished/p/108080701> (These happen to be refurbished.)
If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as your landlord. That means that each of you can "see" all of the devices on the LAN. For privacy, each of you might want be on separate LANs. (Someone else mentioned this.) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | I believe the source calls, or called them wall outlet Ethernet kits. That's not a reasonable name. I have wall outlets for ethernet that are just plates with ethernet cables connected behind them. The ethernet runs to a patch panel in my basement. Ethernet has to be carried by something. - normally an ethernet cable that is a refined version of ordinary phone cable. A current standard is called "CAT 6" - it can be carried by radio waves, like WiFi - it can be carried on an optical fiber. - it can be carried with CATV co-ax cable (Rogers). - it can be carried over power lines. This last one is convenient because it piggy-backs on existing electrical power wiring in your house. This signal is blocked by transformers so it probably leaks out of your house but not your neighbourhood. My guess remains that the pair of units you have is for transmission over power lines. If you cannot easily give a model number, could you say what connectors each unit has? I'm guessing: - a two or three prong plug to go into a power socket - an ethernet socket - perhaps an antenna for WiFi.
sorry, answered swiftly. I am very sure this is not the goal, as my adapter has no software whatsoever. as for seeing everyone's devices, I certainly cannot do this using my tools. I have asked my landlord if he can see me, and he knows not where to look. On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
| There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two | adapter I got from the source a few years back. | they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item | is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no | extra software involved.
What are these two adapters? It is hard to help without knowing.
My *guess* is that they are powerline ethernet adapters. Here's an example: <https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/computers-tablets/networking/range-extenders-powerline/d-link-dhp-601av-re-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starter-kit---refurbished/p/108080701> (These happen to be refurbished.)
If this is what you are using, beware that you are on the same LAN as your landlord. That means that each of you can "see" all of the devices on the LAN. For privacy, each of you might want be on separate LANs. (Someone else mentioned this.) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Hi folks, I located the box and manual for what I am seeking to emulate. it is a d-links powerline adapter starter kit. hopefully a google? will generate an image. Going to phone d-link myself to ask for ideas, in case there is a new generation of this unit. thanks, Karen
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:36 -0400 (EDT) | I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. | My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to | find a solution. | he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not | very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. | for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main | machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. | There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two | adapter I got from the source a few years back. | they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item | is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no | extra software involved. Now we know that the two adapters are: d-links powerline adapter starter kit.
From what I see, they kind of act like an ethernet cable. Here is D_link's page for the current model: https://ca.dlink.com/en/products/dhp-601av-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starte...
It has two footnotes: 1 Maximum throughput based on theoretical transmission PHY rate. Actual data throughput will vary. Network conditions and environmental factors, including volume of traffic and network overhead, may lower actual data throughput rate. Interference from devices that emit electrical noise, such as vacuum cleaners and hair dryers, may adversely affect the performance of this product. 2 Power outlets and electrical wiring must all be part of the same electrical system. Certain electrical conditions in your home, such as wiring condition and configuration, may affect the performance of this product. Additional D-Link PowerLine AV series products are required to add new devices to the network. A minimum of two D-Link PowerLine AV series products are required to create a network. Connecting this product to a power strip with a surge protector may adversely affect the performance of this product. For best results, plug the adapter directly into a wall outlet. | The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose | internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time. That's odd. But a lot of network problems are odd. Sometimes hard to diagnose. Could someone be putting noise on the home wiring? For example, footnote 1 mentions vacuum cleaners and hair dryers. But who uses those for an hour at a stretch? Could you be using a power bar at either end? Footnote 2 calls that out as an issue. Note: when you use this powerline kit, all your devices appear on the same LAN as your landlord's devices. This provides no firewall between you. | My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, | but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this. Probably not. But I cannot be certain. | To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me | personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with | resources on line, like reach my office email. Makes sense. | Leading me to the question. | given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am | guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into | a wireless network. | By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically | connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless | resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack. I don't understand exactly what you are saying. Generally speaking, a wired connection is usually better (more reliable, faster) than a wireless one. Generally speaking, most devices now speak WiFi and fewer have wired ethernet connections. Your landlord could give you the WiFi password for his internet connection. - does it reliably reach the part of your apartment that matter? - this would not reduce the security of the current setup BUT I'm guessing that both you and he might like to impose some separation between your devices. - do all the devices that you wish to hook up to the internet have WiFi connections? If the answer to each of these is "yes", then you could probably do without the powerline adapters. | Anyone know of such an adapter? There are things called "wireless access points". I'd have to understand your situation better to make a recommendation. - do you care about protecting your devices from your landlord's devices and vice versa? - does WiFi from you landlord's modem/router reliably cover all of your rooms? Any of your rooms? - what the heck is the source of your outages. | amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now. Amazon has lots and lots of stuff. Not always the cheapest source. | If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer | uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever. That partially answers one question: that your main computer doesn't have a WiFi adapter. They are fairly easy to add, if you want to. Here's a quite fast one that I heard recommended (I am not recommending it because I haven't done the research needed): <https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1300-High-Wi-Fi-Adapter/dp/B08D72GSMS/> This requires a USB 3 port on your computer. Do you have any other devices that you wish to connect to the ethernet? If so, what ports do they have.
Hi there, let me answer at the top, faster for me. I have two mini adapters, one down here, and the second upstairs with my landlord. My manual also includes those footnotes. my adapter is plugged into a wall, but I am unsure if the second one upstairs is also plugged into a wall, instead of a power bar. a second factor, which may be impacting things is that we did not actually configure the adapter, as in did not insure they are firmly closed security wise. Those instructions, apparently there is a button to be pressed is another step to take. I know of no WiFi adapter that runs in DOS, which is my primary operating system. I use ssh to reach shellworld, and a dos edition of the Links browser on my machine. My landlord states that WiFi works, even outside, he has honestly never heard of Ethernet before now, finding this all confusing. I have no other devices I currently wish to connect to this setup, there will be a macbook pro at some point, but that is a fair amount of voiceover training away. Your understanding is correct though, the adapter here has the Ethernet cable from my computer plugged into it. upstairs, the adapter is plugged again via Ethernet cable into the modem of my landlord's setup..have never seen it, and cannot seem to learn how, or if I show up as a device. My landlord seems unsure how to tell, with bell claiming their software does not provide that information. I cannot access anything regarding my landlords devices, doubt he can actually access my main computer either. for now, confirming the configuration process is my first step, that and making sure the upstairs adapter is plugged into a real wall jack. Thanks, Karen On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:13:36 -0400 (EDT)
| I hope I ask this question clearly, as it may be hard to picture. | My new landlord is including Internet in my rent, all the more motivation to | find a solution. | he has bell, fibe for home, which includes things like Internet, but is not | very aware of unique methods of using the Internet, like Ethernet connections. | for the past year I have quite easily used fibe connections with my main | machine, so I feel sure this may be more about distance than anything else. | There is no physical modem in my apartment. Instead, I have a set of two | adapter I got from the source a few years back. | they plug into the wall, have a single Ethernet jack, and when the other item | is connected to the modem via the same method, I can use the network, no | extra software involved.
Now we know that the two adapters are: d-links powerline adapter starter kit.
From what I see, they kind of act like an ethernet cable. Here is D_link's page for the current model: https://ca.dlink.com/en/products/dhp-601av-powerline-av2-1000-gigabit-starte...
It has two footnotes:
1 Maximum throughput based on theoretical transmission PHY rate. Actual data throughput will vary. Network conditions and environmental factors, including volume of traffic and network overhead, may lower actual data throughput rate. Interference from devices that emit electrical noise, such as vacuum cleaners and hair dryers, may adversely affect the performance of this product.
2 Power outlets and electrical wiring must all be part of the same electrical system. Certain electrical conditions in your home, such as wiring condition and configuration, may affect the performance of this product. Additional D-Link PowerLine AV series products are required to add new devices to the network. A minimum of two D-Link PowerLine AV series products are required to create a network. Connecting this product to a power strip with a surge protector may adversely affect the performance of this product. For best results, plug the adapter directly into a wall outlet.
| The problem we are having though is that for unexplained reasons I loose | internet access, sometimes for minutes, sometimes for several hours at a time.
That's odd. But a lot of network problems are odd. Sometimes hard to diagnose.
Could someone be putting noise on the home wiring? For example, footnote 1 mentions vacuum cleaners and hair dryers. But who uses those for an hour at a stretch?
Could you be using a power bar at either end? Footnote 2 calls that out as an issue.
Note: when you use this powerline kit, all your devices appear on the same LAN as your landlord's devices. This provides no firewall between you.
| My first thought was that perhaps the service upstairs thinks i am a threat, | but again my new landlord has no idea how to check for this.
Probably not. But I cannot be certain.
| To be forthright the Internet shakiness is becoming a major factor for me | personally, I still have no land line, doing a great deal of work with | resources on line, like reach my office email.
Makes sense.
| Leading me to the question. | given adapter like the one I am using now existed, think 2017 or 2018, I am | guessing comparative ones exist that allow the Ethernet connection to tap into | a wireless network. | By which I mean, there will be no need for the adapter to be physically | connected to the service modem, the adapter can draw upon the wireless | resources, while still providing say a single Ethernet jack.
I don't understand exactly what you are saying.
Generally speaking, a wired connection is usually better (more reliable, faster) than a wireless one.
Generally speaking, most devices now speak WiFi and fewer have wired ethernet connections.
Your landlord could give you the WiFi password for his internet connection.
- does it reliably reach the part of your apartment that matter?
- this would not reduce the security of the current setup BUT I'm guessing that both you and he might like to impose some separation between your devices.
- do all the devices that you wish to hook up to the internet have WiFi connections?
If the answer to each of these is "yes", then you could probably do without the powerline adapters.
| Anyone know of such an adapter?
There are things called "wireless access points".
I'd have to understand your situation better to make a recommendation.
- do you care about protecting your devices from your landlord's devices and vice versa?
- does WiFi from you landlord's modem/router reliably cover all of your rooms? Any of your rooms?
- what the heck is the source of your outages.
| amazon Canada would be wonderful as I have a gift card balance just now.
Amazon has lots and lots of stuff. Not always the cheapest source.
| If confusing, ask questions that make it easier to follow, my main computer | uses Ethernet only, I have no wireless resources whatsoever.
That partially answers one question: that your main computer doesn't have a WiFi adapter. They are fairly easy to add, if you want to. Here's a quite fast one that I heard recommended (I am not recommending it because I haven't done the research needed): <https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1300-High-Wi-Fi-Adapter/dp/B08D72GSMS/> This requires a USB 3 port on your computer.
Do you have any other devices that you wish to connect to the ethernet? If so, what ports do they have.
I'll top-post. I'm 99% sure that are on your Landlord's LAN, so you can see each other's devices. How can you test for this from MSDOS? I have no idea. I don't even know how MSDOS does networking in the present day. The old-school command-line tool is nmap. Maybe it exists in your DOS. Are you actually running MSDOS or are you running something else? Perhaps one of these: - FreeDOS - a CLI (cmd.exe, for example) under Windows - a DOS box under Linux I'll await an answer rather than speculating. On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: | From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | I know of no WiFi adapter that runs in DOS, which is my primary operating | system. I use ssh to reach shellworld, and a dos edition of the Links browser | on my machine.
On 20/04/2023 11:44, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
I'll top-post.
I'm 99% sure that are on your Landlord's LAN, so you can see each other's devices.
How can you test for this from MSDOS? I have no idea.
Try pinging the broadcast address in your net. Not all devices present might respond but you will get a guess if something unexpected is on the lan. The other way would be to ping individually all possible addresses in your subnet. Never used LAN-over-powerline devices but AFAIK they should have a pairing mechanism and communication should be encrypted.
I don't even know how MSDOS does networking in the present day. The old-school command-line tool is nmap. Maybe it exists in your DOS.
Are you actually running MSDOS or are you running something else? Perhaps one of these:
- FreeDOS - a CLI (cmd.exe, for example) under Windows - a DOS box under Linux
I'll await an answer rather than speculating.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk <talk@gtalug.org>
| I know of no WiFi adapter that runs in DOS, which is my primary operating | system. I use ssh to reach shellworld, and a dos edition of the Links browser | on my machine. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi, Answering the only important question for me personally. I respect of your interest in security, but my issue is improving my connection, and I cannot imagine the value for me personally in checking other devices. as I physically cannot use windows screen readers or speech synthesizers due to my previously shared experiencing of auditory processing, all of my machines are custom built to run my speech synthesizer, which is hardware, the Reading edge, and my other tools. I use pure ms. dos, a package constructed from ms. dos 7.1, which existed under windows 98 at the time, but had updated utilities written for the package. there is no edition of windows on my machine. One of the nice things about freedos though is how that on going work is sparking innovation and creativity. For example the ssh package I use, sshdos, was updated just in the past few months to use updated dh key processes, blending putty with other more recently developed solutions. If you search for sshdos, you will find the GitHub for the project. I respect the creative nature of this list, but my computers are tools, and my main interest is using those tools with the body I have involving the most time efficient solution I need for the job. Thanks, Karen On Thu, 20 Apr 2023, Aurelian Melinte via talk wrote:
On 20/04/2023 11:44, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
I'll top-post.
I'm 99% sure that are on your Landlord's LAN, so you can see each other's devices.
How can you test for this from MSDOS? I have no idea.
Try pinging the broadcast address in your net. Not all devices present might respond but you will get a guess if something unexpected is on the lan. The other way would be to ping individually all possible addresses in your subnet.
Never used LAN-over-powerline devices but AFAIK they should have a pairing mechanism and communication should be encrypted.
I don't even know how MSDOS does networking in the present day. The old-school command-line tool is nmap. Maybe it exists in your DOS.
Are you actually running MSDOS or are you running something else? Perhaps one of these:
- FreeDOS - a CLI (cmd.exe, for example) under Windows - a DOS box under Linux
I'll await an answer rather than speculating.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
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And some of you can, with my joining in, laugh at its simplicity. I located another outlet in the room serving as my office, where the adapter is connected. Suddenly I have the best Internet personally enjoyed in recent memory. going from needing to log back in within minutes and 8 hour down time, to lag lasting as long as a sneeze. However? my, aquired from Canada computers Ethernet cable, while reaching, is well not reaching safely. as in a tightrope for barbies to walk across the room. so, I ordered Ethernet cable from amazon Canada, at least it says it is Ethernet cable. I imagine? the non braided flat variety is the bees knees these days? What has me a tiny bit worried is how like, but not totally like the Ethernet plug I know well the ends look. I might have gotten too much..its 50 feet laughs! still it has these adorable little wall clip things and this belt that feels like Velcro and was only $12. I read the description 4 times, making sure Ethernet was in the features. Should I be worried? Back in the Internet fast lane, Kare
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 09:13:11PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
And some of you can, with my joining in, laugh at its simplicity. I located another outlet in the room serving as my office, where the adapter is connected. Suddenly I have the best Internet personally enjoyed in recent memory. going from needing to log back in within minutes and 8 hour down time, to lag lasting as long as a sneeze. However? my, aquired from Canada computers Ethernet cable, while reaching, is well not reaching safely. as in a tightrope for barbies to walk across the room. so, I ordered Ethernet cable from amazon Canada, at least it says it is Ethernet cable. I imagine? the non braided flat variety is the bees knees these days? What has me a tiny bit worried is how like, but not totally like the Ethernet plug I know well the ends look. I might have gotten too much..its 50 feet laughs! still it has these adorable little wall clip things and this belt that feels like Velcro and was only $12. I read the description 4 times, making sure Ethernet was in the features. Should I be worried? Back in the Internet fast lane,
Given ethernet done using UTP (twisted pair) cable is allowed by the specifications to be 100 meters, I can't imagine a 50 foot cable will be any issue. And certainly there are flat cables made for people that want to be able to put them behind things. Some have nicer connectors than others, with rubber or other covers to protect the clip. Some people like those, some hate them (Some of them make the cable very hard to unplug. Good if you don't want it falling out or getting knocked, not good if you often need to plug and unplug a cable to do testing work). I hope your connection decides to stay working now. -- Len Sorensen
Thanks! Went back to check, a cat 6 at a cat5 price? 100 meters of Ethernet cable sounds like a prop for a stunt performance. Thanks everyone for your ideas and help. Kare On Sat, 29 Apr 2023, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 09:13:11PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
And some of you can, with my joining in, laugh at its simplicity. I located another outlet in the room serving as my office, where the adapter is connected. Suddenly I have the best Internet personally enjoyed in recent memory. going from needing to log back in within minutes and 8 hour down time, to lag lasting as long as a sneeze. However? my, aquired from Canada computers Ethernet cable, while reaching, is well not reaching safely. as in a tightrope for barbies to walk across the room. so, I ordered Ethernet cable from amazon Canada, at least it says it is Ethernet cable. I imagine? the non braided flat variety is the bees knees these days? What has me a tiny bit worried is how like, but not totally like the Ethernet plug I know well the ends look. I might have gotten too much..its 50 feet laughs! still it has these adorable little wall clip things and this belt that feels like Velcro and was only $12. I read the description 4 times, making sure Ethernet was in the features. Should I be worried? Back in the Internet fast lane,
Given ethernet done using UTP (twisted pair) cable is allowed by the specifications to be 100 meters, I can't imagine a 50 foot cable will be any issue. And certainly there are flat cables made for people that want to be able to put them behind things. Some have nicer connectors than others, with rubber or other covers to protect the clip. Some people like those, some hate them (Some of them make the cable very hard to unplug. Good if you don't want it falling out or getting knocked, not good if you often need to plug and unplug a cable to do testing work).
I hope your connection decides to stay working now.
-- Len Sorensen
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