Questions for sys install

Greetings Laptop my wife has been using a her computer is starting to have occasional graphics issues. Its an all in one mobo but its also almost 7 years old so looked for a replacement. BestBuy had some systems on sale for after Christmas so ordered an Asus desktop. AMD mobo 6 GB of ram, built in wifi w DVD RW all for can $360 inc shipping. Now comes the kicker. Wanted to set the uefi bios to boot from Cd-rom so that I could use gparted to give myself some disc room to enable a dual boot system (Debian testing being the flavor du jour). It will NOT boot onto the cd-rom it says that an illegal modification has been made to the bios and the next boot option must be chosen. (There was zero material with this system. It boots and all but there is nothing with it. Even the OS key is burned into the bios. There isn't even a system sticker any more!!) Any suggestions on how to get this system to boot onto the cd-rom short of pulling the hard drive and replacing it? TIA Dee

| From: o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor@gmail.com> | BestBuy had some systems on sale for after Christmas so ordered an Asus desktop. | | AMD mobo 6 GB of ram, built in wifi w DVD RW all for can $360 inc shipping. When asking for help, concrete information reduces uncertainty of your reader. So: what exactly did you buy? | Now comes the kicker. Wanted to set the uefi bios to boot from Cd-rom | so that I could use gparted to give myself some disc room to enable a | dual boot system (Debian testing being the flavor du jour). It will | NOT boot onto the cd-rom it says that an illegal modification has been | made to the bios and the next boot option must be chosen. Perhaps you left Secure Boot enabled? I don't think that debian is set up to satisfy the Secure Boot requirements. You can turn it of in the firmware configuation (what we used to call the BIOS setup screen). I'm assuming that this is a UEFI boot disk. If not, there is more mucking about you have to do to enable MBR booting (and CSM loading). | (There was zero material with this system. It boots and all but there | is nothing with it. Even the OS key is burned into the bios. There | isn't even a system sticker any more!!) I'm not 100% sure where Windows license cookie crumbs live any longer. Once you update the Win 10, I think they live in Microsoft's database (they call it the Cloud to make it seem more new-age). | Any suggestions on how to get this system to boot onto the cd-rom | short of pulling the hard drive and replacing it? A precise and accurate symptom report might or might not help us help you.

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:15 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@mimosa.com> wrote:
| From: o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor@gmail.com>
| BestBuy had some systems on sale for after Christmas so ordered an Asus desktop. | | AMD mobo 6 GB of ram, built in wifi w DVD RW all for can $360 inc shipping.
When asking for help, concrete information reduces uncertainty of your reader. So: what exactly did you buy?
Asus K20BF.
| Now comes the kicker. Wanted to set the uefi bios to boot from Cd-rom | so that I could use gparted to give myself some disc room to enable a | dual boot system (Debian testing being the flavor du jour). It will | NOT boot onto the cd-rom it says that an illegal modification has been | made to the bios and the next boot option must be chosen.
Perhaps you left Secure Boot enabled? I don't think that debian is set up to satisfy the Secure Boot requirements. You can turn it of in the firmware configuation (what we used to call the BIOS setup screen).
I'm assuming that this is a UEFI boot disk. If not, there is more mucking about you have to do to enable MBR booting (and CSM loading).
That was the clue that I needed. Secure boot was still enabled. With that removed I was able to use gparted to reduce the large partition to something that leaves room for what I want. I have been mucking about with a server uefi bios and I thought that that was imbecilic but this one here made the server one seem straight forward and that's scary. No wonder most people won't touch their computers - - - the bloatware malware and useless obsfucation isn't just rampant there isn't anything else left!
| (There was zero material with this system. It boots and all but there | is nothing with it. Even the OS key is burned into the bios. There | isn't even a system sticker any more!!)
I'm not 100% sure where Windows license cookie crumbs live any longer. Once you update the Win 10, I think they live in Microsoft's database (they call it the Cloud to make it seem more new-age).
| Any suggestions on how to get this system to boot onto the cd-rom | short of pulling the hard drive and replacing it?
A precise and accurate symptom report might or might not help us help you.
Even the right questions can be useful!! Thank you! Dee

On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 04:35:41PM -0600, o1bigtenor wrote:
That was the clue that I needed. Secure boot was still enabled. With that removed I was able to use gparted to reduce the large partition to something that leaves room for what I want.
I have been mucking about with a server uefi bios and I thought that that was imbecilic but this one here made the server one seem straight forward and that's scary.
No wonder most people won't touch their computers - - - the bloatware malware and useless obsfucation isn't just rampant there isn't anything else left!
Servers don't ship with secureboot enabled. Windows 8 and 10 machines are required to by Microsoft if they want to have the sticker with the windows logo. -- Len Sorensen

On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 01:59:26PM -0600, o1bigtenor wrote:
Greetings
Laptop my wife has been using a her computer is starting to have occasional graphics issues. Its an all in one mobo but its also almost 7 years old so looked for a replacement.
BestBuy had some systems on sale for after Christmas so ordered an Asus desktop.
AMD mobo 6 GB of ram, built in wifi w DVD RW all for can $360 inc shipping.
Now comes the kicker. Wanted to set the uefi bios to boot from Cd-rom so that I could use gparted to give myself some disc room to enable a dual boot system (Debian testing being the flavor du jour). It will NOT boot onto the cd-rom it says that an illegal modification has been made to the bios and the next boot option must be chosen.
(There was zero material with this system. It boots and all but there is nothing with it. Even the OS key is burned into the bios. There isn't even a system sticker any more!!)
Any suggestions on how to get this system to boot onto the cd-rom short of pulling the hard drive and replacing it?
Disable secureboot in the "BIOS". -- Len Sorensen
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