Need to get rid of old computer parts
Hello everyone, I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well. So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13 AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan 6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004 And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead. ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM Any takers? Alex.
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On Oct 6, 2015, at 22:26 , Alex Volkov <alex@flamy.ca> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan 6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
Any takers?
Alex.
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Hello Alex, I can definitely use the memory and the processor and heatsink. I can grab them from you at the meeting. Thanks, Amos Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Renzland <renzland@gmail.com> To: GTALUG Talk <talk@gtalug.org> Sent: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 22:34 Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Need to get rid of old computer parts http://freegeektoronto.org/donate/
On Oct 6, 2015, at 22:26 , Alex Volkov <alex@flamy.ca> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan 6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
Any takers?
Alex.
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Ok it's yours. Which processor do you want or do you want both? On 06/10/15 10:36 PM, Amos H. Weatherill wrote:
Hello Alex,
I can definitely use the memory and the processor and heatsink.
I can grab them from you at the meeting.
Thanks, Amos
Sent from my android device.
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On Oct 6, 2015, at 22:26 , Alex Volkov <alex@flamy.ca <mailto:alex@flamy.ca>> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan 6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
Any takers?
Alex.
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The Intel Quad, I don't have a motherboard for the Athlon. Thanks Again, Amos Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Volkov <avolkov@gmail.com> To: GTALUG Talk <talk@gtalug.org> Sent: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 22:53 Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Need to get rid of old computer parts Ok it's yours. Which processor do you want or do you want both? On 06/10/15 10:36 PM, Amos H. Weatherill wrote:
Hello Alex,
I can definitely use the memory and the processor and heatsink.
I can grab them from you at the meeting.
Thanks, Amos
Sent from my android device.
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Renzland <renzland@gmail.com> To: GTALUG Talk <talk@gtalug.org> Sent: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 22:34 Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Need to get rid of old computer parts
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On Oct 6, 2015, at 22:26 , Alex Volkov <alex@flamy.ca <mailto:alex@flamy.ca>> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan 6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
Any takers?
Alex.
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On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:26:29PM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well.
I have encountered that in the past with other USB 3 controllers. No idea what causes it. Which kernel version do you have? I have found some discussions about a problem with some 3.1x kernels and 64bit mode on the VIA VL805 controller with IOMMU enabled. And apparently it mainly affects seagate external drives. See https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb%40vger.kernel.org/msg43326.html if interested.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan
2800+ or 3200+ or what? I have never heard of an XP 3800+. Or is it an Athlon 64 3800+? Not that I need any of them. :)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan
I have one of those in my desktop. Runs pretty hot, but decent performance.
6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
-- Len Sorensen
Hi Lennart, On 07/10/15 11:24 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:26:29PM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well. I have encountered that in the past with other USB 3 controllers. No idea what causes it.
Which kernel version do you have? I have found some discussions about a problem with some 3.1x kernels and 64bit mode on the VIA VL805 controller with IOMMU enabled.
And apparently it mainly affects seagate external drives.
See https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb%40vger.kernel.org/msg43326.html if interested.
I run debian testing with kernel 4.2.0, last time I tried doing anything in linux was in 4.1.0. I mainly tested with a 3.5" front panel \w card reader, connected via USB3 header on the motherboard. The reader runs realtek-something chip (I will look it up when I get home). I'm able to boot debian USB image from bios, err, uefi, but when the OS tries to read some pictures from SD card or usb key, about three or four thumbnails in, the system locks up and needs to be rebooted. I found bunch of recent posts on debian, ubuntu and fedora mailing list dealing with very similar issues which leads me to believe it's not related to hardware. I tweaked with IOMMU settings for a bit, I had to enable it to get keyboard and mouse to work during the install, but I changed settings afterwards, I will verify this.
So right now I have a bunch of older hardware circa 07-10 that will go into recycling unless someone wants it and I can bring it to the next GTALUG meeting on Oct 13
AMD Athlon XP 3800+ with heatsink but no fan 2800+ or 3200+ or what? I have never heard of an XP 3800+.
Or is it an Athlon 64 3800+?
Not that I need any of them. :)
It's Athlon 64 3800+, I even cleaned up thermal grease to get the model number, then proceeded to make a typo.
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 with heatsink and fan I have one of those in my desktop. Runs pretty hot, but decent performance.
Yes TDP is 105W, I feel dumb complaining about my now current 95W CPU. I highly suspect the motherboard wasn't up to par and eventually gave in-- it has only one power connector for the CPU.
6x 2GB memory sticks of various performance (667-800Mhz), last time I checked all of them worked IDE Pioneer DVR-108 -- DVD-RW drive circa 2004
And for the in the off chance there are morbidly curious among you, I have two motherboards that are mostly dead.
ASUS M4A-VM and ASUS P5KPL-VM
Hello everyone, I have a bit of followup on the USB3 issue on VIA VL805. After updating Linux kernel to 4.2.0-1 USB3 I was able to successfully copy bulk data using the front panel. In general the computer appears to be very stable, so I didn't bother with checking BIOS settings as the culprit was buggy USB3 kernel drivers. USB controller info from lspci: 02:00.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01) Card reader \w USB3 header connector info from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. multicard reader Alex. On 07/10/15 12:16 PM, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hi Lennart,
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:26:29PM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hello everyone,
I had to upgrade my old computer, and I can report a success with everything except VIA VL805 USB 3.0 host controller that locks up the system whenever I attempt to use USB 3 in Linux. Oh well. I have encountered that in the past with other USB 3 controllers. No idea what causes it.
Which kernel version do you have? I have found some discussions about a problem with some 3.1x kernels and 64bit mode on the VIA VL805 controller with IOMMU enabled.
And apparently it mainly affects seagate external drives.
See https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb%40vger.kernel.org/msg43326.html if interested. I run debian testing with kernel 4.2.0, last time I tried doing anything in linux was in 4.1.0. I mainly tested with a 3.5" front panel \w card reader, connected via USB3 header on the motherboard. The reader runs realtek-something chip (I will look it up when I get home). I'm able to boot debian USB image from bios, err, uefi, but when the OS
On 07/10/15 11:24 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: tries to read some pictures from SD card or usb key, about three or four thumbnails in, the system locks up and needs to be rebooted. I found bunch of recent posts on debian, ubuntu and fedora mailing list dealing with very similar issues which leads me to believe it's not related to hardware.
I tweaked with IOMMU settings for a bit, I had to enable it to get keyboard and mouse to work during the install, but I changed settings afterwards, I will verify this. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:21:59PM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a bit of followup on the USB3 issue on VIA VL805. After updating Linux kernel to 4.2.0-1 USB3 I was able to successfully copy bulk data using the front panel. In general the computer appears to be very stable, so I didn't bother with checking BIOS settings as the culprit was buggy USB3 kernel drivers.
USB controller info from lspci: 02:00.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01)
Card reader \w USB3 header connector info from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. multicard reader
Great, so now it works. What is the transfer rate like? Does 'lsusb -t' nicely show it as a superspeed device? # lsusb -t /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 5000M |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 5000M /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/15p, 480M |__ Port 3: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/2p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M |__ Port 4: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 11: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 12: Dev 7, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/3p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/8p, 480M /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/3p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/6p, 480M Nice to see 5000M on some devices after all. -- Len Sorensen
lsusb -t indeed shows amazing things. Too bad though, that I've been reading and writing between Class 10 SD cards and spinning rust hard drives, so transfer rate has been mostly limited by that. /: Bus 09.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ohci-pci/4p, 12M /: Bus 08.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ohci-pci/2p, 12M /: Bus 07.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ohci-pci/5p, 12M |__ Port 4: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 4: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 5: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M /: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ohci-pci/5p, 12M /: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/4p, 480M /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/5p, 480M /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/5p, 480M /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M |__ Port 3: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 5000M /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/1p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M On 15/10/15 03:59 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:21:59PM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a bit of followup on the USB3 issue on VIA VL805. After updating Linux kernel to 4.2.0-1 USB3 I was able to successfully copy bulk data using the front panel. In general the computer appears to be very stable, so I didn't bother with checking BIOS settings as the culprit was buggy USB3 kernel drivers.
USB controller info from lspci: 02:00.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01)
Card reader \w USB3 header connector info from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. multicard reader Great, so now it works.
What is the transfer rate like? Does 'lsusb -t' nicely show it as a superspeed device?
# lsusb -t /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 5000M |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 5000M /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/15p, 480M |__ Port 3: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/2p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M |__ Port 4: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 11: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 12: Dev 7, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/3p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/8p, 480M /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/3p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/6p, 480M
Nice to see 5000M on some devices after all.
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